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Scro Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:52 PM
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Bishop says cover up or get raped
In a scandalous tirade against new fashion trends, evangelical pastor Bishop Herro Blair warned young women that skimpy, figure-hugging clothes, were “invitations to rapists”.

And he said men who wear sagging trousers, exposing their underpants, attracting homosexuals. Labelling these trends as a sign of moral decay, Blair told a congregation at the Faith Cathedral Deliverance Centre in Kingston: “The way some of you dress sickens me.”

He recalled turning a girl away from church doors because she wore a top that exposed her belly-button. “I said to her, ‘You are a prime candidate for a rapist’. It is a serious situation and nothing to laugh about.

“The way some boys are walking with their pants down on their hips means they are heading for it. Homosexuals like to see men’s bottoms.”

http://www.voice-online.net/content.php?show=4845&type=2
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:53 PM
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1. women like to see men's bottoms, as well, Bishop Blair
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:05 PM
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53. If Men's Fashions Were More Revealing
perhaps the national figure would be in better shape (and the number of lonely single women decrease)
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:53 PM
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2. Oh brother.....and wives who aren't submissive deserve to be beaten?
What century are we in?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:54 PM
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3. He should have said priests like to see men's bottoms.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:57 PM
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7. LOL !
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:58 PM
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8. Speaking for himself, most likely.
;)
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:03 PM
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14. Make that BOY'S bottoms.....
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:51 PM
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28. Obviously your reading comprehension skills are lacking.

This bishop is an evangelical, meaning a Protestant, while you're trying to throw stones at Catholic priests, presumably because it's a Known Fact that ONLY Catholic priests have sex with other males.

:eyes:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:27 PM
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35. Priests, preachers, whatever.....
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 08:29 PM by liberal_veteran
...some people can't take a joke. Besides. Catholics aren't the only people that call them Priests. So do episcopalians and anglican and many other protestants.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:56 PM
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4. I think he's mirroring his insecurities and fears that he has a hard
time controlling. He needs to shut up and get help for his mental problems.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:56 PM
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5. Yet another "winner"
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 06:56 PM by Bluzmann57
from freeperland. Don't they ever get tired of all their shit? My daughter is 20, and I worry about the way she dresses sometimes, but thats because I'm her dad and I'm supposed to. That joker isn't. And she is a good person. Welcome to DU by the way.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:56 PM
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6. wtf
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 06:58 PM
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9. What's next ? Women forced to wear a chador or a burka?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:00 PM
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10. Yet another Pervert For Kryst?
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 07:05 PM by TahitiNut
The mental health of these people is appalling.


Now hear this, Bishop. I don't give a damned if people prance around in the nude covered in chocolate! Transferring the blame to a victim for the malicious behavior of others is the morality of a pervert and ethics of a fascist, authoritarian terrorist! Your mental health disqualifies your opinion. Get over your homophobia and sexual insecurities, asshole!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:00 PM
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11. I guess he was speaking for himself
as a man with no self-control, respect, discipline, decency, morality etc.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:00 PM
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12. the bishop continued...
"...and small boys should stop going around looking so slutty. They're just asking for trouble."
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:02 PM
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13. rapper pants
Good grief... how many rappers are there that "show there underware" are worth looking at?
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:11 PM
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15. I say: Shut up or get Slapped n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:13 PM
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16. What a dark little journey inside the Bishop's mind this sermon was
Is it just me, or is there whiff of something familiar in it?


But with regard to any bystanders, the witches themselves have often been seen lying on their backs in the fields or the woods, naked up to the very navel, and it has been apparent from the disposition of those limbs and members which pertain to the venereal act and orgasm, as also from the agitation of their legs and thighs, that, all invisibly to the bystanders, they have been copulating with Incubus devils;
-- Malleus Maleficarum, the Inquisitor's manual, 1486.

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:50 PM
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40. It's impossible for me to read ANY passage from that book
without becoming physically ill. Literally, I get physically ill. Shockingly, the same minds, the same type of woman-hating thinking that went into producing that tome exists to this day. shudder
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 04:55 PM
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46. Everyone MUST read that book -- NEVER AGAIN.
NEVER. AGAIN.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:15 PM
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17. Priests are the last people id expect to give fashion tips.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:18 PM
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18. look at all there mono robes there wear..
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:20 PM
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19. Bishop, that hat
you're wearing doesn't do much for me, to say nothing of the cassock! :evilgrin:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:23 PM
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20. A picture of the good bishop and a couple of his colleagues
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:26 PM
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21. I'm surprised!
Surprised and afraid!

And in awe of their ruthless efficiency, to say nothing of their fanatical devotion to the pope!

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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:03 PM
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31. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
:)
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 03:40 PM
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41. These guys were protestants
.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:36 PM
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37. pssst... Cardinals wear red, bishops don't--they wear black
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:45 PM
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39. Ha! Nobody expects a Bishop to wear red!
That helps give them the element of surprise!

Surprise -- and fear!

Well -- surprise, fear, and their ruthless efficiency.

...and their fanatical devotion to the pope!

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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:06 PM
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48. Glad somebody has a sense of humor in this thread
That's what I get for trying to lighten things up, I guess.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:34 PM
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22. That's it. I'm going to nurse in church
topless.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:39 PM
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23. sounds like a "bishop" in his own mind
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 07:46 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
In other words, he's a guy who started his own "non-denominational" church, named himself "bishop" just because he felt like it, and began blathering on without having to answer to anyone.

For those of you who don't know, when a church declares itself "non-denominational," it means one of two things: 1) "We're Southern Baptists and don't want anyone to realize it, because the Southern Baptists have such a bad reputation." or 2) "We're free-lance crazies organized by some guy with no training and delusions of grandeur, and there's no one supervising us."

BTW, a bishop is supposed to be the "priest of the priests" in a given geographical area, in other words, the person the local priests report to. In the Episcopal Church, they are elected by a combination of clergy and laity. I think they're appointed by the Pope in the Roman Catholic Church. But the point is, in mainstream churches, you can't just be a bishop because you like the outfits bishops get to wear.

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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:43 PM
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24.  stuck in the Middle Ages
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 07:44 PM by DaveSZ
nt
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:08 PM
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32. That kind of pompous self-titling is rampant in evangelical circles
My born again mom always brings a copy of the local fundie rag home from church every week, the "Love Express", and a quick perusal of the upcoming events section is always good for a laugh. Some of the names these people come up for themselves are comedy gold. Off the top of my head, I've seen:

Bishop
Evangelist (ok, I can understand that one, it's pretty descriptive)
Healer
Prophet (?!)
Anointed Brother/Sister

Actually it sounds like a list of the level names for clerics in the old 1st Ed. AD&D Player's Handbook (how's that for irony). :P
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:01 PM
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51. don't think they're so bapts----they're conservative/fundamentalist/
pentecostal

We have a lot of 'non-denominational' churches in Tulsa......they are usually pentecostal, eg Billy Joe and Sharon Doughtery's Victory Christian church/k-12 school/bible school and Carleton Pearson's Higher Dimensions.

Both churches are very large, both have programs on Trinity Broadcasting Network, and all 3 are graduates of Oral Roberts University in Tulsa.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:45 PM
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25. EXCUSE ME?!
but THIS homosexual wouldn't take a second look at any dude with his baggy pants falling off.

the bishop sure thinks he knows a hell of a lot about the ways of the sinner mind, doesn't he? hmmmmm..

of course, as long as it fits his agenda, he can insult all the right people.

if someone can't handle their "desires", it's certainly not the fault of whomever is in front of them, regardless of how they are dressed.

take some saltpeter, bishop. maybe you'll feel better, and quit projecting your desires on the rest of us.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:44 PM
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54. Ditto. As a woman, I have to say that nothing gets me going
like that little flash of gray, curling boxer short. Especially when the skid-mark is just visible. Damn...

You'll have to excuse me.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:48 PM
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26. Sounds like the Bishop likes gladiator movies.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:48 PM
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27. sick f***
nt
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:56 PM
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29. Turned her away at the church doors
:eyes: To the bishop..WWJD. I refuse to call him a christian. I remember so many sermons saying that God accepts us all and that's it our own sin if we judge people by what they wear.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:12 PM
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33. Jesus would have hung out with her
This dude is a Pharisee.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 07:56 PM
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30. What year is this, Ward?
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 08:27 PM
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34. And he should know!
Clergymen like to see boys' bottoms!

What an ignorant ass!
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 09:56 PM
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36. that does not explain
the little old ladies that are raped in their beds or the mentally retarded or patients in comas. All too true, unfortunately. God, this guy needs a wake-up call.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 04:10 PM
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42. Why do celibates make pronouncements about sexual comportment?
They're not even partaking, how can they even know what they're talking about?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 04:47 PM
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45. He's an evangelical Bishop--not Catholic--not supposedly celibate.
Sorry, you can't blame everything on one denomination.

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:17 PM
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49. Ooops, my mistake
Believe me, though, I spread the rancor fairly widely; the Catholic Church is far from the most objectionable.

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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 04:14 PM
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43. This coming from a man who wears a dress?
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 04:41 PM
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44. Oh Oh
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 04:43 PM by Marianne
what to make of this?



this is the Olympic appearance. All those randy looking pony tailed tennis players around too.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:05 PM
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47. What would Jesus say?
Somehow I don't believe that Jesus would be so judgemental.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:18 PM
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50. Bishop??
Evangelical churches don't believe in the apostolic succession. How the hell can he be a bishop?
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:03 PM
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52. many pentecostal and non-denominational churches have bishops
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