US President Bush Shifts On Reason Not To Raise Taxes On Rich

[Nambe]

Dow Jones Newswires

.. During a speech to supporters in Chippewa Falls, Wis., Bush said it wasn't possible to pay for the spending programs called for by Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry with a tax hike on the rich.

"My opponent has already promised over $2 trillion in new spending and there is still two more months to go," Bush said.

"So I asked him, 'How are you going to pay for it?' and he said tax the rich," Bush said. "The problem is you cannot tax the rich enough to raise $2 trillion. So guess who is going to pay? You are."

Last week, and as recently as Tuesday, Bush offered a different reason for opposing Kerry's plan to hike rates on U.S. taxpayers earning more than $200,000 a year.

Bush said the rich hire lawyers and accountants, and this means they don't pay their fair share of the tax burden. As a result, Kerry will be forced to raise taxes on the middle class, Bush contended. ..

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The Last Four Years in a Nutshell

[hadrons]

1. flip flops anyone????

Chimpy has lots of them

[Born Free]

15. How are you going to pay for it?

Maybe Kerry should tell the bush team he will pay for it just like they do by borrowing from future generations...

[struggle4progress]

22. IMHO, Chimpy is just a flop. eom

[aquart]

2. Oh? Did someone point out to him

That telling people the rich "don't pay their fair share" wasn't helping his argument?

[liveoaktx]

4. Especially when he himself has an accountant

[louis-t]

3. Oh, REALLY?????

I thought the idea was give lots of money back to the ones who pay the MOST in taxes. Silly me.

[displacedtexan]

5. Hm. And why is that our country is now broke, George W.?

Could it be that YOU GAVE IT ALL AWAY TO YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY?

[grytpype]

6. I cannot understand this.

I absolutely cannot understand why Bush's Brain thinks this is a good line to take. "The rich evade their taxes anyway, unlike you little people." What. The. Fuck. Are. They. Thinking?

[sofa king]

8. I can't understand it, either.

Because I highly doubt that Bush's brain is the one responsible for this idea, being the "intellectually incurious" type of guy that he is. That makes me ask, "what the hell is Karl Rove thinking?"

[grytpype]

10. Rove IS Bush's Brain!

Haven't you seen the book?

[Hand]

12. I dunno...

But whatever they're thinking, I hope they just KEEP ON WITH IT!

:evilgrin:

[noahmijo]

7. Bush is right you can't

But on average according to a Businessweek article I read taxing the rich would bring an extimated revenue of $400 billlion per year.

That's a rough estimate.

THEN what you leave out you Connectitcut Cowboy, are the tax loopholes that would be done away with from corporations.

How much would THAT bring in?

Also says you it's $2 trillion a year.

We all know how good you are with numbers George let's see where you get them

[Zynx]

25. The $2 trillion figure he uses is over TEN years.

Therefore, it is a meaningless number as no accurate predictions can be done on it.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

9. A)

Yes you can raise that much money that way.
B) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. So not the flip-flopper!

[aden_nak]

11. 'Cause if someone is good at breaking the law, you might as well let them.

[BlackJack8324]

13. Doesn't make sense

Bush says the rich aren't paying their fair share of taxes which means more taxes for the middle class but wants to further reduce the tax burden on the rich. Isn't he admitting that his plan will result in higher taxes for the middle class?

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

14. So let's see......

the rich don't pay their fair share and * is rich, therefore......................

[Scairp]

16. This is a new line

I thought he said it was pointless to tax the rich further as they always figure out ways to get out of paying anyway? Didn't he?

[htuttle]

17. People don't shift reasons for the same conclusion unless they are lying

Usually, when one's original 'reasons' for a conclusion are found to be faulty, one might tend to come up with a different conclusion -- you know, like science does.

But when you 'shift reasons' for a conclusion, and then scramble to come up with new 'reasons' for the SAME conclusion, it sure looks like you are not telling the truth.

Like with Iraq, for instance. The reasons may shift, but their conclusion remains the same. That tells me that the REAL reason is something else entirely.

Fact is, Bush WANTS to put the burden of taxation on the middle class instead of the rich. That's the real 'reason' he's against Kerry's plan.

[Parche]

18. bush supporter

I just saw that picture of the bush supporter violently attacking
the protester, that is 3blocks west of where I live
If I was there, (I had to work) I would have knocked that bush
supporter on her ugly behind, if I had seen that, no matter
if she is a female or not.

[camero]

19. He must be getting advice from Jeb

That's the same thing Jeb said about the intangibles tax. The only progressive tax in Florida and he is trying to eliminate it.


How about closing the loopholes so they can't avoid it?

[LynnTheDem]

20. That gets my blood boiling...

I would have ripped that little bootlicking goosestepping bitch's arm off if she'd done that to or in front of me!

But of course rightwingnuts sat quiet and never protested against Clinton, never called the sitting President of the United States a "murderer". Nope, the rightwingnuts just sat quietly thru Clinton's entire 8 years.

So HOW DARE we AMERICANS protest against bush!!! What...we think we're FREE or something???!

Fucking rightwingnuts...to paraphrase Manthrax Coulter, "let's kill them all".

Oh wait, can't do that coz we're Dems and we don't believe in mass murdering people; that's rightwingnut platform. Damn, sometimes it's difficult being a Dem.

[sandnsea]

21. the rich just dodge taxes

That's what he said. He'd know about dodging things, now wouldn't he. bastard.

[T Bone]

23. Bush is a FLOP-FLOPPER !!

His original position is always a flop, so he either stays with a flop, or he flops over to something else.

Bush is a flop-flopper. :-)

[DeepModem Mom]

24. kick

[trogdor]

26. That's an old excuse.

I remember seeing a film over at archive.org where Wendell Wilkie was claiming the exact same thing when he ran for President in 1940. It was intellectually dishonest back then, and it's intellectually dishonest now.

[Jacobin]

27. Well, if they don't pay their fair share, why cut their rates?

Does not compute.

[RivetJoint]

28. I've always been curious about this

What's "their fair share?"

[gasperc]

29. reminds me of Bush I ads from '92

with shots of the village people and a voice over that Clinton would need to get the taxes from average American village people to pay for all of Clinton's proposals.

[RebelOne]

30. IS still two more months to go?

"My opponent has already promised over $2 trillion in new spending and there is still two more months to go," Bush said.

It should be "ARE still two more months to go."

I don't correct the grammar, spelling and punctuation errors made on this board (though sometimes it is hard not to), but I love to catch the moron's errors.

[truthisfreedom]

31. basically, bush found another way to say "me and my rich friends refuse to

pay our share, even if the law says we must, so there's nothing Kerry can do."

basically, all bush is doing is supporting criminal activity and insisting that it's a way of life for the rich. bush's platform is inherently criminal!

[yellowcanine]

32. I guess he finally realized "They cheat anyway" wasn't going to fly.

Our fearless leader is no quick study is he?