'Mainstream Republicans' Urge Party to Avoid Social Issues

[Nambe]

CNSNews

A coalition of self-described "mainstream Republicans" is insisting that unless President Bush and the 2004 GOP presidential platform appeal to more than just the "far right," Democrats will re-take the White House.

The coalition, comprised of the Log Cabin Republicans, Republicans for Choice political action committee and Republican Youth Majority, introduced its "Party Unity" plank this week at a Washington, D.C., news conference. ..

Guerriero also claimed the "far right" has "hijacked" the Republican Party.

The coalition released a survey which it claims shows an electorate that is overwhelmingly in favor of abortion rights.

According to the survey, 72 percent of Americans, 69 percent of Republicans, 78 percent of Democrats and 70 percent of independent voters said they "strongly agree" with the following statement: "The decision to have an abortion should be between a woman, her doctor and her family. Government should not be involved in making such a personal decision." ..

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[Nite Owl]

1. But if it wasn't for

these right wing issues they wouldn't be able to have a platform. It's all they got. And I wonder where these mainstream repukes have been for the past decade or more as they are just noticing that their party has been hijacked?

[calico1]

3. They should have stepped up when all the

RW Christian groups started taking over and using the Party as a Fundie platform. They have allowed themselves to become a scant minority in Congress. Now they notice that the Party has been hijacked?

[JNelson6563]

2. Thankfully they warn in vain

The Democrats will re-take the WH this year and possible the Senate and/or House.

:toast:

Julie

[Cha]

36. "They warn in vain"! Yeah, Julie!

B-)

[GoddessOfGuinness]

4. Why not call the "far right" what they are?

Fascists.

[truthisfreedom]

34. these idiots actually believe bushco represents them in some way.

good frigging luck.

[Kinkistyle]

44. Bigots and fundies. n/t

[KamaAina]

5. Has Alan Keyes weighed in on this yet?

After all, no one is more of a "mainstream Republican" than he... </sarcasm>

[shrub chipper]

7. Sadly, isn't Keyes actually

very much a ''mainstream' member of today's Repuke Party?

It's those self-professed Mainstream Republicans who are on the fringes of the current GOP thought process.

[janx]

6. They've just now begun to figure this out?

Where were they 12 years ago?

Too late now...

[tlcandie]

8. Maybe Condi's infamous words....

"If we had even a clue that planes errr political parties would be hijacked we would have done something!"

Whatever. May the best man win!

EDIT: What I was trying to say is that they aren't very good about thinking in advance regarding possible hijacking scenarios. :eyes:

[Doosh]

9. the GOP civil war is coming

the once silent, now angry moderates vs. the religious right

imho, the far right will win out

[phillybri]

10. I love it!

Cannibalize each other, you fucks!

[TheFarseer]

11. That's bad advice IMO

Aren't social issues the only ammunition they have left? What else do they honestly have to run on? I think it's the only way they can get back the voters they lost with their other insane policies.

[Mari333]

12. Too frigging late. 4 years too late.

and moderate repubs that existed have been shilling for Bush all along..cry in your goddamned beer for all I care.

[Democat]

13. The left wins either way

Either the right wing moves to the left or they piss off more people.

Without the media on their side, they would have been done a long time ago.

[calimary]

33. Sounds like something I'm gonna sit back and enjoy.

Let's pop some popcorn, put our feet up, and watch the GOP splinter itself. You don't even have to light a nice fire in the fireplace. Those flames you see will be the republi-CONS - self-immolating.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. And you're correct - either way, we win. The moderates will either reclaim their party and we'll have a reasonable group of people with whom we can at least talk, or the religions wackos will prevail and the rest of the country will be so alienated they'll come over to the Dems or maybe start their own party. A party of REASONABLE people. And it'll be enough to guarantee both entities minority status for awhile. A LONG while - at least for the fundies' part of it.

And by the way - did you see this? Robert Novak of all people, predicting this very outcome if bush loses... It's called "Does a GOP Implosion Await?

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=%5CCommentary%5Carchive%5C200408%5CCOM20040816c.html

[Democat]

46. Imagine a Kerry win and a Republican Party move to the left

It would be great for the left. We could get our president and move the opposition to left at the same time.

The right wing cannot win the culture war, but they can make it hell for everyone for a few more years if they keep trying.

Maybe if Bush loses, it will put a nail in the coffin of the extremist social right wing movement.

[lovuian]

14. Hello Republicans

Your party has been Hijacked is right

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

15. there is no such thing as a mainstream Republican...bunch of BS

They vote whichever way Delay and Hastert to tell them, which is far right.

So, they are irrelevant, a fringe element in the GOP.

[ScrewyRabbit]

16. Bwahhahahahahahahah!!!!

Their wedge issue is turning out to be a wedgie in their own pants. Serves 'em right!

[iconoclastic cat]

17. Mainstream Republicans? Like Alan Keyes?

He's the most mainstream Republican I know!

[expatriot]

18. McCain is anti-choice, this article makes it sound like he is pro-choice!

Man, McCain gets a free pass on EVERYTHING.

[Roy]

19. Huh

"A coalition of self-described "mainstream Republicans" is insisting that unless President Bush and the 2004 GOP presidential platform appeal to more than just the "far right," Democrats will re-take the White House.

The coalition, comprised of the Log Cabin Republicans, Republicans for Choice political action committee and Republican Youth Majority, introduced its "Party Unity" plan"


Aren't these 'mainstream republicans' saying that Bush should pretend to be more compassionate and inclusive, so as to be re-elected so he can legislate their self intertest Out of existence?

I don't get it. :shrug:

[54anickel]

20. Was thinking the same thing. Their party loyalty will lead to the death

of their issues. I don't get it either. They would actually be much better off to have Shrub loose and concentrate on taking back their party.

I don't even know what the Republican party is anymore. It used to be the fiscally conservative platform. Now it's some schizoid mixed bag of neo-conservative facism and wacko-fundamentalism.

Interesting article I came across today on the neo-con ideology in the Asia Times.
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FH18Ak01.html

[The Magistrate]

25. What The Republican Party Is Today, Ma'am

Is the "Rich Loot the Rest!" party: that is the sole object of its leadership, and the sum of its actual policies....

"Hold still, I'm trying ta skin ya!"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[TankLV]

40. In other words, they should be more like LIBERAL DEMOCRATS?!

But aren't there some self-proclaimed Democrats on this forum calling for more anti-choice, anti-gay issues that we should be supporting to make the Democratic Party more acceptable to all those bigots and zealots, so we can win, because after all, we are all so "left wing" "fringe" persons?!

Doesn't this put quite a kabosh on any of their claims of what the "majority of americans" believes?

This is soooooo good.

Pass the popcorn, please.

[David Zephyr]

21. Memo From Karl Rove to GOP Delegates: Turn Down the Hate for One Week.

Just one week, folks.

Remember: the "Big Tent". Yeah.

Oh, and compassionate conservatism, too.

[TankLV]

41. Don't forget to putt ALL of their blacks and other minority persons on the

stage again - so they can entertain all the old white men who will comprise the audience!

There are soooo many of them that they can all fit onto any stage ALL AT ONE TIME!

[sandnsea]

22. Too bad, it's their party

Don't come around talking to me about mainstream values when your party's been running on extremist religious views for years now. They don't stand for fiscal discipline. They don't stand for the so-called moral social issues. I guess they're just a party of white supremacists.

[boot@9]

23. Read

"What's The Matter With Kansas" by Thomas Frank. It is the best analysis that I have read that explains and explores this topic(along with why so many people vote against their own self economic and political interests).

[stevedeshazer]

24. sounds like the Libertarians talking points n/t

[indepat]

26. Repukes need to focus on what they are good at: Wrecking the economy,

the job market, and stock markets; the environment; international law, treaties, and organizations; international goodwill, alliances, and friendships; the Bill of Rights and the rule of law; and the solvency of the Federal government including the Social Security and Medicare systems. With a record like that, forget the religous and other social issues.

[damntexdem]

27. Hey, GOP, don't listen to those moderates!

Make your platform as stupidly rightwing as possible. Piss off the American electorate. Come on, we know you can do it!

[Zorra]

28. Too little, too late. The toast is almost done. n/t

[DaveSZ]

29. Social issues that appeal to Fundies are all they have

They have the military (though less and less so) and Fundie social issues.

That's about it.

[sofa king]

30. Normally I would say "come to the light," but...

In this case, I can't invite "moderate" Republicans over to our side. Because, as stated above, any halfwit who failed to notice the radical bent the Republican party took and maintained over six fucking national election cycles is too lacking in mental stature to ride this donkey.

So seriously, "moderate" Republicans: go don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. Piss off.

[hatrack]

31. So let me get this straight - Log Closet Republicans want tolerance?

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(whew!) ;-)

[Cha]

Your laugh is infectious!

B-)

[yardwork]

32. They rode their party's hypocrisy to power and control

it's a little late for them to find ethics at this point. I have no sympathy for the Log Cabin Republicans or the rest of them. They made their bed with the RNC, now they get to reap the benefits, which is association with a party that can't stand them.

[Cha]

35. I would think these gopers who are advising this..

wouldn't Want bush to retake the White House!!

Oh, I forgot..their greediness gets in the way of their morals.

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38. Sleep With Dogs, Wake With Fleas

"Guerriero also claimed the "far right" has "hijacked" the Republican Party."

What did they think would happen when they handed the steering wheel over to the psychos?

[bogey18]

39. Aren't Log Cabin Republicans kind of like Jews for Hitler?

Honestly, I have never gotten this, just as I have never gotten any person of color being a Republican in the last 30 years. Do these people have to wear white sheets in order for the rest of their party to spot them?

[maddogesq]

42. Gosh, I love the smell of self-mutilation in the morning.

For those living in my state who are familiar with L. Brooks Patterson, the longtime GOP king maker, you will recall he went out against the far right last year saying it would be the party's downfall. Well, the fundies took a beatin' in Oakland County in the primaries, AND THEY ARE PISSED. The OCGOP is torn apart IMHO. BWAHAHAHA...I WANT MORE!

[struggle4progress]

43. Wow. A couple of months before the election ...

... a group of so-called "moderate Republicans" begins to worry that the wingnuts have too much influence in the party.

[Tight_rope]

45. Wow....Breaking the 11th Commandment.

"Thou shalt not speak ill of a follow repuke." :spank:

"the "far right" has "hijacked" the Republican Party.". This is music to my ears. I guess Bush* is no longer serving them the kool-aid flavor that they once enjoyed.

[Piperay]

47. and if they moderate themselves

they will lose their hardcore right wing base, they are in a real bind, bwahahaha.:evilgrin: