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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 08:08 AM
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Blair Govt. Blasted on Iraq Intelligence
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-2879177,00.html

LONDON (AP) - A parliamentary committee on Monday sharply criticized the government's handling of intelligence on Iraqi weapons but narrowly cleared Prime Minister Tony Blair's communications chief of ``improper influence'' in drafting a controversial intelligence dossier.

The House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee said the dossier, published in September, gave undue prominence to a claim that Iraq could deploy chemical or biological weapons within 45 minutes of Saddam Hussein's giving the order.

It said the language used in the dossier was ``more assertive than that traditionally used in intelligence documents,'' and that the ``jury is still out'' on the accuracy of the information contained in the dossier.

...more...

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:04 AM
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1. Wow! MSNBC just reported that no one over there lied about WMD's?
Hmmmm. Wonder wht MSNBC said that? Bet they got their marching orders yesterday from Bush and his minions.

Don

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:11 AM
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3. Do you have the exact quote from the report?
The claim that Saddam had an unconventional weapons system that could by quickly deployed is false. The claim was made based on so-called intelligence that only the willfully ignorant would accept.

Somebody lied.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:46 AM
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5. I paraphrase it. But it was pretty close to exactly what they reported n/t
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:05 AM
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2. Meanwhile, let's not lose track of the real issue
We also learn from an Australian news source that the British Foreign Office is now doubting that Saddam's biochemical arsenal exists. The official line from the government, however, remains "We stand by the September dossier." Unfortunately for Mr. Blair, one cannot stand by the intelligence reports that said Saddam had an unconventional weapons systems that could be deployed within 45 minutes of his ordering it and at the same time express doubt that such weapons exist.

Saddam did not use these weapons, although a qualitatively superior military force was ready to invade his country, overthrow his government and plunder Iraq's wealth. In the weeks prior to the war, UN inspectors found nothing more than some missiles that flew a few miles too far under ideal flight conditions, but no biochemical warheads. In the weeks since the war, those searching for weapons on behalf of the invaders have failed to find any evidence of a biochemical arsenal. They have offered Saddam's lieutenants inducements to cooperate in finding weapons, but the only answer they get is that their is nothing for which to look. They can spin all they want, but the best explanation for all of this is that the weapons were destroyed some time prior to the war, as directed by UN resolutions dating from 1991. How many times must that be said?

The dispute as to whether Alastair Campbell, Blair's media director, ordered the intelligence "sexed up" remains a dispute with the BBC supporting its reporters and the government clearing Campbell. The same paraliamentary committee that cleared Campbell also said theat many of the claims made by the government in the dossier were inappropriate or exaggerated. In other words, if one wishes to use a colloquial term, the dossier was "sexed up."

The dossier was sexed up, whether by Campbell or somebody else. The question is: by whom and on whose orders? Did low-level intelligence agents conspire to start this war by presenting the government with a false assessment of Saddam's capabilities. That seems unlikely. The most likely hypotheses are those in which the politicians cherry-picked the intelligence, no matter how faulty, to support a course of action on which they had decided but was not justified on any grounds of international security. In other words, Blair lied and knew or should have known that he was lying.

Blair and his people can use whatever language they want. The fact remains that in order to drum up parliamentary support for the invasion, Blair presented a dossier that misrepresented the facts. That, not whether Alastair Campbell or somebody else is directly responsible for that misrepresentation, is what is most important.

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ThomasJefferson Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:42 AM
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4. Servants
Edited on Mon Jul-07-03 09:44 AM by ThomasJefferson
UK is a bunch of Bush Servants, they was 500000 before the war in the streets, while the war they was 100...lol

Blair is a noe fascist, plaggiarism and lies, he just bashed the french gov to "break UN " ha ha ha ha, the history will remind him as a sucker!
Mayba he was as the 60% US peoples who beleived that SADDAM was into the 9/11 planes?

or when James baker in 1991 ,and fellas liars americans gave to the world a kowaity "nurse" talking about how iraqies troops killed babies into hospital, one year later we all knew that the "nurse" never put a foot into kowait, it was the Kowait embaasador daughter!

amnety international backed that no a baby was killed in kowait!

Great comedy, isn't it?

Today no ones trust the USA and Blair dog, and beleive me, for long times to go!

Bush 's USA is a bunch of liars hiprocrits, able to fight the tiny countries, it's all there is their "mighty".

a day will come where they will cross the rubicon "they did it in iraq, Terrorists ares growing up", and that will not be a medieval army to fight, this time!
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-03 09:52 AM
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6. Blair's government is desparate to hang on to power,
and if Poodle goes down, then the tide will ripple across to the US and it will affect bush*.

And hello ThomasJefferson, welcome to DU! :hi:
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