Prober red hot over Bush's Iraq uranium 'lies'

[tinnypriv]

PROBER RED HOT OVER BUSH'S IRAQ URANIUM 'LIES'
New York Post

A former U.S. ambassador, who was hired by the CIA to investigate reports that Saddam Hussein bought uranium from Niger, has gone public with his anger that his findings discrediting the reports were ignored by the Bush administration.

...

Joseph C. Wilson IV, who was ambassador to Gabon from '92 to '95, traveled to Niger at the request of the CIA in February 2002, and found no evidence that any uranium sale had taken place.

..

"If they'll lie about things like this, there's no telling what else they'll lie about," Wilson, who is now an international business consultant, told The Post from his Washington home.

...

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/2489.htm

[MotorCityMan]

1. "If they'll lie about things like this..."

"...there's no telling what else they'll lie about."

Or HAVE lied about, or PLANNING TO lie about...

Always nice to hear about someone who "gets it". Say it, brother, loudly and often. Repeat.

[joeunderdog]

42. where was this guy 6 months ago?

Really, why does he come out now? The soldiers are dead and dying. The contracts have been awarded. The schools are closing to finance the military. The sheeple already have their heads so far embedded in the desert sand that no one will notice.

Where were you when we needed you?

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Ok connect the dots

The Post is publishing this... the Times is talking of probes on the Wahabbis... the NYT has a large expose on the Niger fiasco...

It is getting very hot in DC.

[wegottem]

3. lies

If the glove fits must impeach

[ThorsteinVeblen]

4. Lie, Lie, Lie

Bastards.

[LEW]

5. And

Bush is leaving town.

[reprobate]

44. On a rail? Please, Please, Please!

[revcarol]

6. The "ambassador" surfaces

and tells both them AND us the truth!!

I hope he has good protection.

[Rebellious Republican]

10. Will somebody please tell this person to stay off small ...

Planes!
:scared:

[xchrom]

7. more...

please, please, please...

[AP]

8. Curious thing about Wilson's article: said he hadn't seen Niger letter

and that he heard that it was signed by people who weren't in the government when the letter was dated.

Has anyone seen this letter?

[RainDog]

13. Sy Hersh reported on this letter

in a New Yorker article a few months ago and said that those who had seen it called it an obvious fake.

it later came out that the letter was signed by a guy who had been retired for ten years.

maybe that helped to explain the obvious fake part?

[LiberalFighter]

14. Who suggested the name?

Someone from bush 41 administration?? Maybe even scumbug bush daddy himself?

[RainDog]

16. hmmm. ten years ago...

gee, coulda been someone Poppy knew back in the day...

btw, you should see if you can find a copy of Spider's Web by a writer from The Financial Times named Alan Friedman. (He's won the British equivalent of the pulitzer, btw).

Friedman's book charts how Reagan and Bush Sr. and Casey armed Saddam.

wonder if Saddam owed some $$ for those illegal weapons?

[Paschall]

37. The faked signature was detected by the UN inspection team

...when it examined the letter. You can probably find fuller information at the UN website or with a search engine.

I believe another one of the documents in the same dossier was printed on outdated letterhead or letterhead from the wrong Nigerian government ministry. Just a couple of the gross forgeries in the case, to paraphrase Blix and ElBaradei.

[Kellanved]

41. link to article

http://www.metimes.com/2K3/issue2003-13/reg/coalition_faked_it.htm

[imax2268]

9. it's about time...

I wonder what lame ass excuse they will use this time...???

:beer:

[0007]

19. Everyone will be troting out to save junior's ass

James Baker, Henry Kissinger - FOX - CNN - MSNBC and the likes

[ROakes1019]

11. British Defense Committee

A reporter from the BBC was interviewed by the Defense Committee. I didn't catch the Campbell interview but I did see Clare Short and Robin Cook. Blair is going down for this. Can Bush be far behind?

[indictrichardperle]

12. Okay..This is your chance DEMS

Bunker Dick needs to be called up to testify UNDER OATH.....if he tells the truth, he will have to resign, if he lies he will be impeached.

This is toooo easy.

If this doesnt happen, just one more reason why Dean has to be the nominee.

[Dudley_DUright]

15. First we have to

smoke him out of his bunker, cave, undisclosed location, whatever.

[copithorne]

17. Getting Good Coverage

This story started with an editorial in today's NYT.

Joseph Wilson also appeared in today's Meet the Press.

I did a google/News on Jospeph Wilson. This AP story is in newspapers all over the place (Here, from Northern Alabama.)'

http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030706/API/307060695

Also, it seems to have been picked up in about fifty local news broadcasts.

[LiberalFighter]

18. What about Cheney????

"In February 2002, Mr Wilson, a career diplomat who served on the national security council, was asked by the CIA to travel to Niger to investigate reports on the sale of uranium yellow cake from Niger to Iraq during the late 1990s.

He was told vice-president Dick Cheney's office had raised questions about the report."

:bounce: Condaleeza Rice stated that the report got lost as the excuse. Now if Cheney requested the investigation from the CIA... how much you want to bet that the CIA told the truth to Cheney? :bounce:

[RainDog]

22. Who was it? the CIA guy named McGovern?

was it McGovern who, either in his interview with Will, or in a commentary he had published around the same time...

which said that Cheney had been interferring in the Pentagon's reports on the yellow cake uranium?

(and using the Rummy/Wolfie B Team to get the intel he wanted to be able to lie with cover and invade Iraq?)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

49. On MTP, Wilson specifically pointed to Cheney as being

"in-the-loop" as far as the unreliability of the Niger docs.

[lanlady]

20. Wilson's doing a brave thing

--and I'll bet it's the CIA that's encouraged him to go public. It's hard to believe that a person would go on a mission at CIA request, then go public about it, without the CIA's implicit endorsement. In the NYT he referred to 4 reports/memos that were probably written based on his trip. He named the probable reports, although he hadn't seen them. It's fascinating that someone in the Agency is providing the roadmap to incriminating evidence against the Bush administration.

[MoonAndSun]

21. Let's see what the Washington press corps do with this info

tomorrow at Ari's briefing. It will set the tone for what will come down this week. I can only hope they are starting to smell blood in the water like the sharks they are and will finally start holding bush* responsible for the Iraq atrocities.

[RainDog]

25. The CIA is trying to do their part...

the CIA is doing its part to stop the madness of King George.

If the tv media, as well as print, does not cover this, then it's time to picket the tv headquarters to demand that they tell the truth.

[diamond14]

23. and the CIA has those 4 reports/memos in hand for the next

step in this process....shrub is going down...and it won't be pretty watching that frat boy throw his little temper tantrum as they cuff him....


watch the quick movements in the political arena as shrub's successor is chosen....cheney could easily slip out for "health reasons" at any time....and for "health reasons" be unable to testify, and leave for his lovely, beautiful ranch in the Tetons, and his old role in some quiet multi-billion dollar defense contacting company...

after cheney leaves, a new VP is appointed by the reTHUGlican congress...and then....

shrub, the punk, will take the fall...he's being set up for it now...shrub's strategic mistake was trying to pin everything on the CIA, never should have done that, his father could have taught him that.....



photo from http://bartcop.com

[RainDog]

24. LOL!!! great photoshop!

I hope, hope, hope you are right about Bush and Cheney going down.

...but they need to take Ashcroft and Rummy with them.

seems Rummy would be a prime target for the CIA too, as well as Wolfie, since they were in charge, along with cheney, in cooking the intel books as the B Team in the Pentagon.

what I wonder, though, is are the republicans so compromised by, or so hostage to the repukes (my way to deferentiate between true conservatives and neocon fascists) that they can, politically, get someone in as vp who isn't part of the repulcrazy part of the republican party.

[alfredo]

27. We need to fight any move to grant immunity for Bush & Cheney.

with the repugs in charge, I bet they try it. They will offer full imunity for testimony under the guise of finding where the intelligence community failed.

[diamond14]

32. cheney can leave anytime for "health reasons" and nobody

will challenge that for fear of looking cruel.

When Nixon left, the deal was orchestrated for Gerald Ford to assume the Presidency, and then pardon EVERYONE...it kind of dampered the victory...

oops, prior to assuming the Presidency, first Ford needed to assume the Vice Presidency, which had been vacated by the convicted criminal VP Spiro Agnew...so Ford ended up being the ONLY guy to ever be APPOINTED to both the VP and Pres (and not elected)....and then Ford appointed a new VP, Nelson Rockefeller, who eventually died while having sex with his secretary much to the dismay of his wife...

anyhow, my point is that with shrub, it will be lots easier, since cheney will leave for "health reasons", but who knows the pResidency replacement....lots of people could go to jail if they are obstinant or don't cut a deal, or move strategically in the next few months...Condi may be one...but she seems to have the smarts to leave into the right job when the time comes...

[diamond14]

28. John Mitchell, U.S. Attorney General for Nixon was taken away

in handcuffs, served 19 months in a Federal Prison....

the reTHUGlican senators and representatives will certainly save their own careers if this pressure continues...and they mostly have a great out...the old "we were deceived about WMD by the pResident"...some are already expressing their great humbrage....

lots of finger-pointing will continue...but with Nixon, there was a real scramble as the ship sunk...some left, some plea-bargained, some made deals, some stabbed others in the back...it was amusing at times...bunch of rats jumping the sinking ship....even reTHUGlican Congress and the CIA have turned against shrub...

there's a lot of pressure on shrub right now, and he has led such a wealthy pampered life, it is highly unlikely that he has the character or the stamina to hold up to what's coming next...look at what DC put Clinton through ? do you think shrub could handle that ?
IMO, shrub is already insane, and drinking/drugging...maybe he'll go off the deep end and just quit instead of going to jail...who knows though, he's a real bully and might just try to stand up against the whole "We the People of the United States of America"...

[Paschall]

38. Wilson isn't in the agency

He's a "business consultant" now, whatever the hell that means. Otherwise he's said the CIA paid his travel and expenses for the Niger mission and he offered his time pro bono.

[RainDog]

39. according to a a Financial Times reporter

the guy who wrote about Iraqgate, our govt has "off the books" deals with CIA and military guys who start companies (located in Virginia quite often, apparently...)

these companies have to have legitimate clients, but they also act as brokers for arms deals and who knows what else.

these same "former" CIA and/or military were used to arm Saddam when Reagan was prez, even while the administration was under investigation for Iran/Contra.

I think it's called "deniability."

[DrBB]

26. The one whose ass is REALLY hanging in the wind on this

....is Condi Rice. I think she's the weak link the prosecution should be focusing on, thanks to her damning admission to Tim Russert. Sent a LTE to the Times in response to the Wilson thing today about this--

Re “What I Didn't Find in Africa” (Opinion, 7/6/03): Some weeks ago, National Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice asserted that Joseph Wilson’s report “never got to my level.” Why has Ms. Rice not been held to account? If her statement is true, which Mr Wilson's account shows is unlikely, that is almost more disturbing than if it is a lie. She is in effect saying that a high-level report about a matter of a nuclear threat to the United States never made it to her desk, allowing the President to be misinformed about a matter critical to our national defense, and in turn allowing him to misinform the country in his constitutionally-mandated State of the Union Address. Such a lapse by the National Security Adviser in the post-9/11 world is not only terrifying (what else of major consequence has not "made it to her level?") it is also—or should be—a firing offense.

If Ms Rice is telling the truth, why does she still have a job? If she is lying, who is she covering up for?

[RainDog]

29. that's the same lie she told about 9-11 intel

gee, Condi, if you're so smart, why do you keep telling the same easy to parse lies?

(uh, maybe because corporate media will cover her ass?)

she said the exact same thing about reports from the FBI and/or CIA about terrorist's plans to hijack planes and use them as weapons.

..and she still has her job, and the person who was the boss of the whistleblower who tried to impede investigations got a freaking PROMOTION?

the lunatics have taken over the asylum and hijacked the bus. they will not stop because they know, if they do, that their fuck ups and lies can and should bring them down.

call it Speed 3: bigger, wronger, uncut lies.

[diamond14]

31. Rice should have been dumped right after 9-11....if for no other

reason than to show everyone that it wasn't really shrub's fault, and that he was taken immediate steps to assure security...he could have fired the security advisor and started a lame investigation run totally by his colleagues...that would have been smart and took a lot of the pressure off the 9-11 situation and removed that whole issue....

shrub has always been a strategic failure....his brain, Rove, never could even graduate from college...rude THUG politics is one thing, but strategy on the world stage and international policy is something that shrub is a complete failure at....

Maybe there is something between shrub and rice that we just don't understand...or something she knows that he doesn't want told....or maybe it's just total incompetence on everybody's part...

will the collapse of the bushies be like Enron, and include thousands of businesses connected to shrub's empire....????

[RainDog]

33. She was a v.p. for Chevron

when Chevron and Unocal were trying to negotiate with the Taliban (back when the repukes thought the Taliban was juuuust fine because they were so "moral" ahem).

So, she's just another part of the oil cartel.

but she also provides the fiction of diversity. She may be yet another corporate/oil cartel flunky, but she's black and female, and if that's not diversity, well,

make me a C major and get me into Yale because of my daddy's money, dammit.

[diamond14]

34. so, she knows how to get good jobs,,,,VP for Chevron, Provost

at Stanford, National Security Advisor, attended University of Denver (a private school for rich kids) under affirmative action for poor Blacks from Mississippi....she's always in the right place for the right position....

and she likely won't want to go to jail for shrub...any VP of Chevron probably knows how to cut a deal, and stab people in the back...she could float into another corporate job just in the nick of time, and be forgiven by the new President's pardon...or go live in France...

on edit: her experience at chevron and stanford doesn't really seem to be applicable for National Security Advisor...she must have been on a steep learning curve for that one, or part of the conspiracy...who knows...

[RainDog]

35. France is not a good option for Condi

since France tried to serve Kissinger with papers to try him for war crimes. He can't go there, or to four other countries because he is wanted as a war criminal for supporting the assassination of Allende in Chile by a known fascist in the Chilean military,

and or,

according to Hitchens' book, The Trial of Henry Kissinger, Mr. K. made sure the Vietnam War was prolonged for four years, at the cost of 20 thousand American lives, and who knows how many Vietnamese, to make himself more powerful (and Nixon more electable than Humphrey)

And then there's East Timor and...I lose track.

As Mussolini stated, fascism is the merger of state and corporate power. We have an oil cartel govt leading an oil cartel war for oil cartel benefits.

I suppose that's why vets needed their benefits cut by 25 million, and why the richest 1% in this country need a tax break while vets have to pay for their own disability benefits via the repuke tax scheme on their pensions.

...but I digress...

Condi worked for Chevron for nine years, and dealt with Central Asia. I'm sure she knows lots of interesting things...and she worked for Poppy, too, back in his Iraqgate glory days.

[diamond14]

47. kissinger remained as Sec. of State thru the Ford administration

the guy is slimy...one of the few that not only stayed out of jail, but KEPT HIS JOB....

and all through Watergate and these nixonian criminals...the Vietnam War raged on....thousands of OUR young soldiers were killed...and just like today...the criminals didn't care...

kissinger was one of the biggest criminals and now, standing on the dead bodies of OUR soldiers that he orchestrated personnally....the big K walked away and has yet to pay a penalty for his crimes...it emboldens bush* and his minions to see that...

and all these criminals kept saying that we couldn't just leave Vietnam...that would not be "noble" and would bring "dishonor" on the great United States of America...

we could have just left Vietnam at any time, and we can leave Iraq anytime, just a phone call is all it takes...but shrub probably wants a real "Vietnam" ending to his wars in Iraq/Afganistan/Liberia/etc./


chaos at the end of the Vietnam War

April 1975. kissinger orders evacuation
http://128.83.78.237/library/exhibits/vietnam/7504291a.htm


people grabbing for a place on last helicopters out


people hanging on plane as it takes off


too many people trying to board this helicopter

[RainDog]

53. here is how Kissinger killed 20 thousand Americans

from The Trial of Henry Kissinger, by Christopher Hitchens

(this was in 1968, btw.. four years before America's withdrawal, and during the presidential election b/t Nixon and Humphrey)

Hitchens beings this by noting that this is an open secret which is "too momentous and too awful to tell," -- though -- historians, reporters, former cabinet members and ex-diplomats all know.

"In the fall of 1968, Richard Nixon and some of his emissaries and underlings set out to sabotage the Paris peace negotiations on Vietnam. The means they chose were simple: they privately assured the South Vietnamese military rulers that an incoming Republican regime would offer them a better deal than would a Deomocratic one."

Via Kissinger, Nixon undercut the peace talks and South Vietnam withdrew on the eve of the US election with this scheme.

however, four years later, "the Nixon administration concluded the war on the same terms that had been on offer in Paris."

"the reason for the dead silence that still surrounds...is that, in those intervening four years, some twenty thousand Americans and an uncalculated number of Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians lost their lives."

pp 6-7

This is the same strategy employed by Bush Sr. in the October Surprise investigative journalism by Robert Parry, in which Bush Sr. promised *something* to Iran if they would delay the release of the hostages until after the election.

Almost AS HE WAS BEING INAUGURATED, the Iranians released the hostages...which, in retrospect, seems like they were trying to send a wake up call to America.

during Reagan's term, Bush and Casey armed both the Iranians and the Iraqis...two incidents known as Iran-Contra and Iraqgate. they ultimately decided to arm Saddam more than Iran, however.

because America had gone through the crisis of the Nixon impeachment, Congress paternalistically decided (the nice way of putting it) that the American people could not handle any more truth about the dirty tricksters who were still (and are still) operating.

maybe Congress missed the point...maybe they are missing the point right now, as well.

if you do not hold these people accountable, they continue to do any and everything they can to deny democracy and the will of the people in order to expand their power.

...which is why we are now looking at fascism as doctrine in America...no longer with the facade of adhering to the Constitution.

Bush, Cheney, Rummy...the whole gang...should be tried as war criminals and should be prosecuted as felons for conspiring to deceive the American people and an office of the American govt.

If we did the right thing, I think we would do much to make America and the world a safer place, since the Bushies, via Kristol, have stated that they think "peace is abnormal."

yes, it is abnormal when the only way you can hold power is by ruling by fear and lies and deceit and hatred.

[diamond14]

54. this is why shrub won't allow the reagun/bush1 Pres. papers to

be opened for the public, as required by laws passed after nixon's criminal actions....if those records, now more than 15 years old, were opened to us (and they belong to the People of the United States of America)...we would see the real big crimes of bush1 and reagun...

[RainDog]

55. Bush also hid his papers as gov of Texas

..in his daddy's prez library, and then passed a "decree" to seal those papers, and Reagan's, for a looooong time. Wonder how close the Bushies are with the Saudis? -- obviously close enough to let them have the contract to supply voting machines for American soldiers...ooops! had to wiggle out of that one, though.

the only reason to seal the Reagan/Bush era records is to hide evidence of their crimes against the American people and the world. Most Americans are not aware that Reagan used Klaus Barbie, the butcher of Lyon, to train what Barbie called "a new SS" in Boliva, and that Reagan's govt was guilty of genocide in Central America.

just like the only reason for Cheney to refuse to release the energy policy task force papers is to hide evidence of El Paso and Enron's manipulation of the CA energy crisis in order to fuck the people of CA and raise prices...

and all this rather than attending to the reports about Al Queda that Cheney was too busy to notice, or something like that...

cause Condi sez...we didn't know! we didn't know we were lying! any of the times we've done it, repeatedly, over the last three years!!!

[Nottingham]

30. Oh Honey they have been Lying & Lying & Lying

:bounce:

But glad you noticed!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

36. Hopefully the tide is turning.

[joanski01]

40. They'd better not even

think about appointing Little Ricky Santorum as president.

[R Hickey]

43. I think Karl Rove wrote the Niger-Uranium Forgery.

Who found that forged document?

Who would have the motive to forge such a document?

How did the Bush/Cheney people come by it?

Was it first mailed to a Democratic congressman, the way the Republicans mailed the phoney Bush-Gore-Debate practice tapes?

Is there perhaps some evidence, like a post-office video, of a Republican staff member sending the forgery?

Will the Republicans be able to sweep this con under the rug, the way they did the last time, with their debate-practice-tape forgery?

The thinking that went into this Niger-Uranium forgery sounds like the same kind of thinking that went into Rove's Debate-Tape-Gate.

This forgery has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it.

[DemoTex]

45. The Bu$h Regime never tells the truth ...

... even by mistake.

[PATRICK]

46. Where are they going to find

innocents like this who have no idea of the nature of the Bush government that they either won't tell them what they want to hear or not realize what will happen to honest reports?

Some more years under the Coup and all of the innocents will be replaced by stooges and you'll hear nothing from anyone about the crooked process.

Perhaps if he knew the US as well as he did Gabon he might be a little more upset. Someone should clue him in to the real intelligence work on the Bush administration.

[diamond14]

48. demand that bush* release the reagun presidential records...

that whole cover-up has fallen out of the major news stories...it was the nixon scandals that passed a law requiring opening of all presidential records (those records belong to "We the People of the United States of America)....bush* has repeatively refused to open up the reagun records, and certainly, those records have important information for Americans.....it's time to demand those records...

[yellowcanine]

50. He better avoid small planes

Ambassador Wilson would be wise to avoid flying in any small private planes.

[BuckeFushe]

51. Here is NYT OP ED link

You will have to subscribe if you don't already (free) but it's worth the effort.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/opinion/06WILS.html
(2 pages)

<snip>
What I Didn't Find in Africa
By JOSEPH C. WILSON 4th


ASHINGTON

Did the Bush administration manipulate intelligence about Saddam Hussein's weapons programs to justify an invasion of Iraq?

Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.

For 23 years, from 1976 to 1998, I was a career foreign service officer and ambassador. In 1990, as chargé d'affaires in Baghdad, I was the last American diplomat to meet with Saddam Hussein. (I was also a forceful advocate for his removal from Kuwait.) After Iraq, I was President George H. W. Bush's ambassador to Gabon and São Tomé and Príncipe; under President Bill Clinton, I helped direct Africa policy for the National Security Council.

It was my experience in Africa that led me to play a small role in the effort to verify information about Africa's suspected link to Iraq's nonconventional weapons programs. Those news stories about that unnamed former envoy who went to Niger? That's me.

In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake — a form of lightly processed ore — by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office.

After consulting with the State Department's African Affairs Bureau (and through it with Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick, the United States ambassador to Niger), I agreed to make the trip. The mission I undertook was discreet but by no means secret. While the C.I.A. paid my expenses (my time was offered pro bono), I made it abundantly clear to everyone I met that I was acting on behalf of the United States government.

<snip>
The question now is how that answer was or was not used by our political leadership. If my information was deemed inaccurate, I understand (though I would be very interested to know why). If, however, the information was ignored because it did not fit certain preconceptions about Iraq, then a legitimate argument can be made that we went to war under false pretenses. (It's worth remembering that in his March "Meet the Press" appearance, Mr. Cheney said that Saddam Hussein was "trying once again to produce nuclear weapons.") At a minimum, Congress, which authorized the use of military force at the president's behest, should want to know if the assertions about Iraq were warranted.

<snip>

[tinnypriv]

52. UPDATE: Something to keep an eye on!

Went through the British report and found this:

--As has been widely reported, and not denied by the US Government, the CIA in February 2002 sent a retired US ambassador to Niger to investigate claims that Iraqi officials had been seeking to buy uranium in Niger. The ambassador reported to the CIA that the claims were false and that the documents relating to them may have been forged. The Independent on Sunday reported on 29 June 2003 “The retired US ambassador said that it was all but impossible that British intelligence had not received his report—drawn up by the CIA—which revealed that documents, purporting to show a deal between Iraq and the West African state of Niger, were forgeries.” When the Foreign Secretary was asked “What was the date on which the British intelligence community were informed by the CIA that this forged documentation existed” he replied: “We will find out." We recommend that the Foreign Secretary provide the Committee with the date on which the British intelligence community were first informed by the CIA that forged documentation in relation to Iraqi purchases of uranium from Niger existed, as soon as he has found this out.--

(emphasis in original, 'The Decision to go to War in Iraq', House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee Report of Session 2002–03, paragraph.57, p.27)

[RainDog]

56. excellent find! n/t

.