Editor in 'Shove It' Incident Shoves Back

[Nambe]

By E&P Staff

NEW YORK Colin McNickle, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review staffer asked by Teresa Heinz Kerry to "shove it" last Sunday, now contends that in the aftermath of that widely-reported incident liberals "did their best to demonize not only me but the Trib."

The Tribune-Review (Click for QuikCap), owned by Richard Mellon Scaife, was often accused last week of being a right-wing "rag," McNickle complained in a Sunday column, and this was "vomited repeatedly by liberal media elitists."

Heinz Kerry, he added, "publicly impugned my personal and professional integrity" and allegedly equated his behavior with "McCarthyism." McNickle also lashed out at the negative reactions of everyone from singer Patti Labelle to columnist Jack Germond and filmmaker Michael Moore. He said he had received hate mail and death threats. ...

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[trotsky]

1. "hate mail and death threats"

Gee, welcome to the world of being an outspoken Democrat, even when you simply write a letter to the editor.

What a loser.

[underpants]

2. Demonize the Trib?

Noooooooo say it ain't so

[Jackpine Radical]

32. Satan protests

demonization by ultra-liberals

[Ravenseye]

33. The Trib called us

to ask us if we want a subscription and my wife basically lit into the caller about how we don't want that piece of trash Scaife funded propoganda paper. It sounded like the caller got that alot.

If I recall correctly the Trib actually started out in Westmorland County. It used to be that there were two papers in pittsburgh back in the late eighties. The Press which was an evening paper, and the post-gazette in the morning. There were strikes or something, I don't rememebr the details, but the papers got folded together into just the morning post-gazette. So then with pittsburgh a one paper town, all of a sudden this minor small county paper, the Westmorland Tribune-Review, was bought up by Scaife, changed it's name to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review and started trying to be a second Pittsburgh paper...at the time everyone I knew pretty much laughed it off. Nobody thought of it as a serious paper. Not because of any political slant, but just because here's some billionare trying to make a paper for Pittbsurgh that used to be practicaly a pennysaver flyer for a lightly populated county.

Little did we know.

[debm55]

40. The Trib is a tabloid

Yes, they called me to and I told them to "shove it". Did you read the editorial the Post -Gazette did on the Trib? It shot the Trib down pretty nicely! I grew up in North Huntington(Irwin) and the Trib was this little local sheet(Local Man Bags Deer). It was a shit newspaper and still is a shit newspaper.

[Trajan]

3. They want to dance with the devil ...

and then act like their misunderstood and demonized ....

McNickle ? ... FUCK YOU, you piece of conservative bullshit trash ....

Your work isnt worth a plug nickle ...

[jdj]

27. When he gets offed in abathroom in the Heinz headquarters, then he can

whine about it:


http://www.politicalamazon.com/kangas.html

In early February 1999, Steve Kangas died and his body was found in a restroom near Richard Mellon Scaife's office. This death was not reported in mainstream media until nearly a month later. In the meantime, Scaife proceeded to send his investigator, Rex Armistead (who did so much work in the Scaife-funded get-Clinton snipe-hunt), to investigate Kangas. To no ones surprise, Armistead returned with very non-flattering information about Mr. Kangas...information that is contradictory to information known about Kangas.
Kangas' death is being called a suicide. Yet there are many inconsistencies and downright holes in the story that is being put forth by Scaife and his staff.
There are many questions that have to be answered about Steve Kangas' death, and it is imperative that independent investigators review the work that has been done to date and make a public accounting of the facts surrounding Kangas' death.
As it stands now, there are too many problems with the official explanation of Kangas' death for suicide to be believed..

also:

"Police now claim the investigation has been widened to include Scaife. The same friendly police department that has been routinely stationed in front of the billionaire's home providing him with "security" for decades.

However exposed, Scaife's cover-up did succeed for five weeks, it's been cleaned up, and the body cremated. And Steve's name has been smeared with womanizing, pornography, theft, drunkenness plus a murder attempt by Scaife's famous dirt-manufacturing propaganda mill. In fact, despite the fact that Team Scaife's cover-ups, meddling and steering of the evidence from the very first hours to insure a suicide verdict have recently come to light, the press as of mid-May still continues to unhesitatingly assume suicide.

This is not a banner most people would care to fight under. The squeamish, the gentle, the "reputable" need not apply, nor did they. While smearing the enemy is a common tactic, it's just not polite. Even if nobody really believes that garbage, the knight in shining armor has been successfully destroyed, tainted.

That's the power of first-information, of first-assumption. Perhaps Team Scaife has learned a few tricks of mind bending over the last three decades? It's what they do. High-dollar "spin" is their claim to fame. Underestimating that power might be an error."

http://www.psnw.com/~bashford/kang-ev0.html

[lostnfound]

35. Touche! nt

[trumad]

4. Poor wittle Baby,,,

[leeman67]

5. yeah gee, can't imagine why they would

be called a "right wing rag". I mean, with fair and balanced comments like "vomited repeatedly by liberal media elitists". yeah, go figure. :crazy:

[sui generis]

6. damn whiney conservatives

can't take what you dish out? go straight to hell. do not pass go. do not collect 200 monopoly dollars.

[gratuitous]

7. Better call the whaaaa-mbulance

Mr. McNickle, no one could possibly impugn your integrity. You're asserting facts not in evidence. You first need to prove that you had integrity to impugn. Anyone who can write that "we need more Ann Coulters" is in a serious battle against reality.

You've become demonic all on your own. Theresa's pointing out the obvious does nothing to alter that.

[joefree1]

8. New trend, whiny neo-cons

"Get over it."


Download the free bumper art here:
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[geek tragedy]

9. I thought these guys liked McCarthy. eom

[tlcandie]

10. So, if the following statment is true....

<snip>
As for the "shove it" remark: "I have been told worse things by more important people," he said.
<snip>

Then why on earth is he whining? He is either lying or enjoys playing the victim. Either way, this statement alone proves he isn't worth the time of day!

[daleo]

39. He stole that line from the arch-Liberal Canadian P.M. Pierre Trudeau

Typical that he had to steal the line from a liberal.

When it was pointed out that Nixon had called Trudeau an "asshole", Trudeau said "I've been called worse things by better people".

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Pierre_Trudeau

[RamboLiberal]

11. This jerk threatened to sue local radio host Lynn Cullen

because on a local TV show hosted by John McIntyre she flippantly said she'd like to punch him in the nose for writing an obitiuary column on Katherine Graham WPost owner saying Graham basically murdered her husband.

Like a 50+ year old woman is a real threat to this guy. He claimed his daughter(s) saw it and was upset and crying. I heard he trotted this out again over the "Shove It" issue saying he was getting threatening phone calls at his house and his daughter(s) were again scared and crying.

As Lynn said this morning, she has visions of his home being filled with crying daughters.

Whimp!

[progressivebydesign]

17. How old must his daughters be?

I mean.. Kathryn Graham died several years ago... what, are his daughters around 30 by now? Oh, I'm sure the man has a home number listed in the phone book. NOT! He's a drama queen.

[PATRICK]

12. I'll bet there are no

death threats at all. No real letters at least. From wide experience on these boards there are very few who reflect the tactics and instincts of our opposite numbers insofar as to actually write out a letter of that nature.

Of course when good people get real death threats the media does not take them seriously so this being part of the perils of the profession why should anyone care anyway except the police?

No spine or no honesty. The usual pick and you can't guess wrong.

[DinahMoeHum]

Colin McNickle is a STALKER, not a journalist.

He and Scaife have been doing this shit with the Heinz family and THK for over 20 years.

:grr:

[DinahMoeHum]

13. Colin McNickle is a STALKER, not a journalist.

He and Scaife have been doing this shit with the Heinz family and THK for over 20 years.

:grr:

[floridaguy]

20. Hey Frank, any links on that?

I've heard the same and would like to back it up. Also, can we post the paper and the reporter's numbers, emails, etc., so we can tell him what a shithead he is?
PS.- How are Moon and Dweezle doing?

[DinahMoeHum]

38. Check out the following link. . .

Link:
http://www.alternet.org/story/19389/

(snip)
Colin McNickle did not enter the Democratic Convention as an ordinary reporter. As the editorial page editor for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, a newspaper owned by eccentric rightist billionaire Richard Mellon-Scaife, McNickle came to Boston as an agent provocateur. "What happens when a conservative commentator infiltrates the Democratic National Convention?" the Tribune-Review asked in pre-convention promotion of McNickle's coverage. McNickle answered that question on Sunday, July 25 by provoking a spat with Teresa Heinz-Kerry.

The dustup occurred after Heinz-Kerry gave a speech to the Pennsylvania delegation denouncing "some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics." McNickle approached her and asked what she meant by "un-American activities," in effect accusing her of McCarthyism. Heinz-Kerry denied using the phrase "un-American activities" and stormed off. Yet when Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell pointed out to her that McNickle was a reporter from the Tribune-Review, Heinz-Kerry returned to him with a rebuke. "You're from the Tribune Review?" she asked McNickle with a face tightened with rage. "That's understandable. You said something I didn't say. Now shove it."
(snip)
"The dust-up between Teresa Heinz-Kerry and Colin McNickle has a long history behind it that goes back a good 15 years before McNickle even worked there," said Dennis Roddy, a columnist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, who has covered Pennsylvania politics for over 30 years. "Scaife has had it in for because she's not sufficiently conservative, she's a moderate voice. She has always felt badly treated by the Tribune-Review and it doesn't surprise me that her grievances finally came out."
(snip)

much more. . .


:evilfrown:

[Susang]

46. Many thanks for providing that link

That will come in handy for an argument I'm having with someone. :yourock:

[russian33]

14. "publicly impugned my personal and professional integrity"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

professional integrity

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh that's the funniest thing i've heard in the longest!

[louis-t]

28. Cain't 'publicly impugn'

wha' he don' have!

[KurtNYC]

15. A look at what came McNickles way

Their comments board was lit up after the incident. It got so free and probably exposed their readers to some backboned criticism so they did what cowards do in a democracy -- they shut the comment feature down. This sarcastic post hit the nail pretty much on the head apparently:

Questions to avoid, (since you can't handle the answer apparently): "what should I do with a door that says 'push'?" and "how do you take a suppository?" We all know now that you can dish it out but you can't take it. So get your crybaby kleenex ready ...Shove it!

There are better ones and lame answers from the other side. if you're interested.... http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/conventionalwisdom/show_comments.php?entry_id=23#comments

[progressivebydesign]

16. He did not receive death threats...

that is a truly republican phenom. He WISHES he got them, that would make him feel so freakin' self-righteous. I BEG a news outlet to publish his little rant about how he is a 'proud member of the right wing conspiracy', and how his partisanship 'drives people out of his office'. Bring it on, asshole!

[Junkdrawer]

18. Before the state "Do Not Call" list went into effect, I'd get a weekly...

call from the Trib asking me to subscribe. And every time, I'd ask them to put me on the "Do Not Call" list.

They are VERY aggressive in trying to increase circulation - they literally can't GIVE that rag away.

[Triana]

19. Repigs: They Can Dish it, but they can't Take It...

...poor little bastard.

[Ediacara]

21. So he denies the Tribune Review is a RW paper?

Or is it "rag" he's upset about? I am sure he would have no problem calling thr Seattle P-I a liberal rag, but in the grand scheme of things, the T-R is farther right of center than the P-I is left of center...

It's the least famous of the three major rags, the others being the NY Post and the Washington Times...

[Octafish]

22. McNickle bragged he was HAPPY to make fun of FDR's death

This column will really upset liberals

By Colin McNickle
Sunday, December 16, 2001

As with fools, I don't suffer liberals gladly. I'm a proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy. If not a founding member, I'm at least a charter member and darn proud of it. And I, too, find myself continually shaking my head over the Styrofoam-for-brains liberals and ``their'' media.

SNIP...

Below that is my ``I'M FED UP WITH THE LIBERAL MEDIA'' bumper sticker that Brent Bozell gave me January last in Washington. (That, by the way, was right after Brent gave Bob Bork a big bear hug and secret handshake.)

SNIP...

Oh, and did I forget to mention the pristine, framed copy of the April 12, 1945, edition of the Martins Ferry-Bellaire, Ohio, Times-Leader, my hometown newspaper, that hangs just to the right of my clock and above my bank of computer terminals?

It features that very large headline, ``Roosevelt Dead,'' from which I garner immeasurable inspiration every single day.

CONTINUED...

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/columnists/mcnickle/s_8526.html

This guy's a real turd. Works for Scaife, who's a big turd of the BFEE.

[zbdent]

25. Have this turd ask his boss about the dead guy in the toilet

.

[Gman]

23. "vomited repeatedly by liberal media elitists."

He uses this phrase but doesn't like being called a "right wing rag".

I wonder if he realizes that wasn't a 747 whooshing just over his head, it was the stupidity of what he said.

[City Lights]

26. Exactly!

"Vomited repeatedly by liberal media elitists." Sounds like a real professional. :eyes:

[TexasBushwhacker]

24. Liar liar pants on fire!

To Mr. McNickle

Hate mail? Sure, whatever. You write editorials a-hole. Do you really think everyone is supposed to be sending you flowers?

Death threats? Show me the money honey. Did you report them to the police? Were they by phone, mail or e-mail? Sorry, but you're going to have to have some back up on this. Death threats are not really the Democrat/Liberal way of doing things. Repubs/Conservatives/Neocons are the ones that seem to have a problem with freedom of speech.

[jdj]

29. Thanks Colin McNipple for whining, I didn't know about the

Patti Labelle comments until now. This is awesome.

Teresa Heinz Kerry's mouth is a lot cleaner than Vice President Dick Cheney's.

"That was the opinion yesterday of many Democratic delegates, party activists and supporters of Heinz Kerry, the outspoken wife of Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry who made national headlines by telling a Pittsburgh newspaper reporter who angered her to ``shove it'' on Sunday.

``It's not as outrageous as what the vice president said on the Senate floor,'' said Llenda Jackson-Leslie, president of the National Women's Political Caucus, referring to Cheney's use of an obscenity in June to a senator.

``He's never had to express any remorse for that. It shows you the rules are different for the boys,'' Jackson-Leslie said.

``I think she should've pimp-slapped him,'' an even blunter songstress Patti Labelle said after rehearsing for last night's convention festivities on the FleetCenter stage. ``Tell Teresa to keep kicking butt.''

http://www.bostonherald.com/election2004/view.bg?articleid=37372

You GO, Patti!!

[Rose Siding]

30. She didn't equate his behavior with McCarthyism!

What a HACK! She said the way he'd improperly added "activities" to her quote made HER sound like McCarthy. I'm sure his loyal readers will set him straight on the facts :eyes:

[RhodaGrits]

31. This is a great story about those 2 lowlifes and what they've

been doing to Teresa for years -

The Scaife Strategy: Smother Teresa
By Max Blumenthal, AlterNet
Posted on July 29, 2004, Printed on July 30, 2004
http://www.alternet.org/story/19389/
Colin McNickle did not enter the Democratic Convention as an ordinary reporter. As the editorial page editor for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, a newspaper owned by eccentric rightist billionaire Richard Mellon-Scaife, McNickle came to Boston as an agent provocateur. "What happens when a conservative commentator infiltrates the Democratic National Convention?" the Tribune-Review asked in pre-convention promotion of McNickle's coverage. McNickle answered that question on Sunday, July 25 by provoking a spat with Teresa Heinz-Kerry.

The dustup occurred after Heinz-Kerry gave a speech to the Pennsylvania delegation denouncing "some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics." McNickle approached her and asked what she meant by "un-American activities," in effect accusing her of McCarthyism. Heinz-Kerry denied using the phrase "un-American activities" and stormed off. Yet when Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell pointed out to her that McNickle was a reporter from the Tribune-Review, Heinz-Kerry returned to him with a rebuke. "You're from the Tribune Review?" she asked McNickle with a face tightened with rage. "That's understandable. You said something I didn't say. Now shove it."

Most of the mainstream press characterized the incident as The New York Times' Jim Rutenberg did: another example of "Teresa being Teresa." For them, the dustup was a resounding confirmation that their hastily scrawled sketch of an incurable free spirit who was filling John Kerry's campaign coffers while draining his political fortunes was an accurate one. However, there is much more to it than that. McNickle's provocation of Heinz-Kerry represents the latest manifestation of a poisonous dirty tricks campaign Scaife has financed to undermine Heinz-Kerry, a fellow Western Pennsylvania philanthropist whom he considers his rival. And now that Heinz-Kerry has been thrust into the national spotlight by her husband's presidential candidacy, Scaife's smears are likely to intensify.

"The dust-up between Teresa Heinz-Kerry and Colin McNickle has a long history behind it that goes back a good 15 years before McNickle even worked there," said Dennis Roddy, a columnist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, who has covered Pennsylvania politics for over 30 years. "Scaife has had it in for because she's not sufficiently conservative, she's a moderate voice. She has always felt badly treated by the Tribune-Review and it doesn't surprise me that her grievances finally came out."

-snip

http://www.alternet.org/election04/19389/

[Lugnut]

34. Get over yourself, Colin

And get yourself some thicker skin.

[Voltaire99]

36. What a crybaby! Somebody change his diapers.

I'm not saying this because I like Teresa Heinz Kerry; true, I do like her very much. Far more, in fact, than I care for her militarist reporting-for-duty Bush-lite husband.

Democracy needs an adversarial press. And if you can badger a public figure into losing his or her cool, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You're doing at least something right: you're showing more tenacity than most media lapdogs.

But--and it's a very big but--if, like Colin McNickle, you choose a course of swagger, then the last thing you should do is cry about your public reception. McNickle has showed us that he isn't made of the real stuff, or even very stern stuff, for he clearly expected to be hailed for his bravery. Then he collapsed into whining at the first sign of objection.

You're a wimp, McNickle; you're lucky Heinz Kerry didn't kick your ass. ;-)

[Tight_rope]

37. Welcome to the world that Bush created...Hate and Kill! Don't you love it

[msanthrope]

41. Thin-skinned little turd, eh? n/t

[Career Prole]

42. Hey McNickle...shove it! n/t

[Downtown Hound]

43. Oh the poor, poor man...

I feel so sorry for him. Not!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

44. You can't "impugne" what somebody doesn't have...

You can't work for Scaife and have any integrity at all.

[Name removed]

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[Downtown Hound]

48. Hmmm...

It's 11:18 a.m. here in California. I'll check back in a few hours and see if you're still around. Probably not, in which case, I'll send my deepest sympathies to you because I'm afraid Mrs. Kerry is going to be our next first lady. And I know that strong, intelligent women really give folks like you a case of high blood pressure and other medical difficulties. My condolences.

[thebigidea]

49. you're about as convincing as that guy in the Bigfoot suit.

"As long as we keep the press we will win. People are too stupid to think for themselves and that is what we have going for us."

Golly, though - doesn't that one have the ring of truth to it. Sometimes they get a little carried away with the projection business and you get gems like this.

[dave29]

47. They really shine in the spotlight

don't they?