US Must "Turn Up the Heat" on Syria, Iran: top Republican (DeLay)

[kainah]

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A senior US Republican congressman said that the White House should increase pressure on Syria and Iran to prevail in the war against terrorism.

"We've got to continue the pressure on Syria and Iran," Tom DeLay, leader of the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, told Fox News television.

"We need to turn up the heat on both those countries to join us -- either join us against these terrorists or suffer the consequences," he said.

"We have to fight this on every front that we can find to get these terrorists," said DeLay, who recently returned from the Middle East.

"The United States ought to be ... fighting the war against terrorism, whether we find it in the Middle East or in Southeast Asia or in Israel," the Texas lawmaker said.

"We ought to go after these terrorists, as we have been doing, and eliminate them and the states that support them. And we're doing a very good job at that, and we ought to continue it."

...and even more outrageous stuff at.......

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1520&ncid=1520&e=8&u=/afp/20030817/pl_afp/us_iraq_politics_030817195703

[grytpype]

1. Repugs are so nuts.

We're so overextended, and they want two new wars.

I used to say Iraq was Vietnam in fast motion, but I'm changing my mind.

It's World War II in fast motion, and we are Germany.

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[indictrichardperle]

3. Bugman just returns from Israel

and comes back here saying we have to "turn up the pressure" on Syria and Iran, and fight terrorism in Israel............why dont you represent Americans and American interests Bugman ?

I get the idea some people think our troops are cheap rentacops.

[LEFTofLEFT]

24. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

There is lots of money the be made from these wars. He want his fair and balanced share.

Tom believes in the saying "know your enemys" - thats why he battles rats and roaches.

[alfredo]

28. go to his site and see an Israeli flag flying over the Capitol

[kainah]

30. Christian Zionists

a very scary breed. Their god lacks the power, apparently, to carry out his own prophecy and so they believe it's essential to help him out by bringing along Armageddon. Very, very spooky people.

[kainah]

7. I didn't see it & haven't heard anything

what happened??

On the "good" side of this -- and remember, we're talking about delay so there can't really be a "good" side -- he's becoming more arrogant. He needs to be public to be taken down. Until this year, he was kept "under wraps." There's now much evidence that he's going public. When he does, he'll go up in flames like Gingrich.

[IndianaGreen]

4. We should parachute DeLay over Tehran carrying a stack of Bibles!

Let's see how his Gawd saves him from this one!

[DieboldMustDie]

18. Skip the parachute...

:evilgrin:

[realFedUp]

5. so much easier to remove one man v two countries

cheaper too.

[KeepItReal]

6. Let's do it!! With DeLay on the FRONT LINE with an M-16

Let's see his chickenhawk azz talk smack then...

"House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve (1). "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

[kainah]

9. Did you hear Rummy in his Pentagon town hall meeting say

that, when he was CEO, he always looked to see if prospective employees had military service because "that tells you something." A bit hard to take from this administration.

edited to add about DeLay's chickenhawk status: don't forget that he explained that to us. He couldn't get into the army because all those black boys considered Vietnam a prize job opportunity. :grr:

[stevedeshazer]

14. When I think of DeLay

comes to mind.

[DBoon]

27. Blame it all on "reverse discrimination"

The excuse for white losers everywhere

[alcuno]

8. It would almost be worth moving to Texas just to vote him out.

No wonder he refused to go to Vietnam, he would have been.....

What is it called when you are killed by a fellow soldier? On purpose.

[HawkerHurricane]

12. "Fragged"

from the habit of quietly rolling a fragmentation grenade into the foxhole/bunker/tent of the person you didn't like during a attack.

[QuietStorm]

10. Tom Delay is truly a rabid fellow.

He sounds feverishly hysterical. Why is he given so much press coverage? He is like the drummer boy for the blood thirsty.

[kainah]

11. I just noticed -- SOUTHEAST ASIA?????

In his long list of places to take our war, he includes SOUTHEAST ASIA! Does he want to go back and try to win Vietnam?????? Is anyone else mentioning SE Asia? Or does he just not know his geography?

[TreasonousBastard]

15. I think he meant Indonesia.

And no, he doesn't know his geography.

[nolabels]

29. Hey, look I found some more maps for them

http://www.sodamnfunny.com/terrorist/weathermap.html

[Zorro]

16. Indonesia is a terrorist haven

Philippines are on the list, too.

Of course, Tom just might add Viet Nam to the list for old times sake while he's at it.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

20. South America Will Be Added

The U.S. has been carrying on covert operations with several hundred "advisors" in the tri border region of Argentina, Paraguay, and
Brazil. This CNN article indicates that it is becoming the next suspected focal point of Al Qaeda activities, as hard as that might be to believe.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/americas/11/07/terror.triborder/

[HawkerHurricane]

13. He sure is eager to fight new wars

Now that HIS ASS doesn't have to fight them!

Tom Delay: CHICKENHAWK!

[short bus president]

17. "join us... or suffer the consequences"

WTF kind of "dark side of the force" sick joke is this little shit-flinging tree monkey?

[are_we_united_yet]

19. Tom this may come as a surprise to you but

We here at DU think you suck!

[robbedvoter]

21. Clark on DeLay (on Wolf Blitzer):

BLITZER: Well, pretty strong words from Tom DeLay going after you. What do you say to
that criticism?

CLARK: Well, first of all, I'd be happy to compare my hair with Tom DeLay's. We'll see
who's got the blow-dried hair.

But beyond that, Wolf, he's got it exactly backward. It's upside down. I am saying what I
believe. And I'm being drawn into the political process because of what I believe and
what I've said about it.

So it's precisely the opposite of a man like Tom DeLay, who is only motivated by politics
and says whatever he needs to say to get the political purpose. And so, you know, it
couldn't be more diametrically opposed, and I couldn't be more opposed than I am to
Tom DeLay.

You know, Wolf, when our airmen were flying over Kosovo, Tom DeLay led the House
Republicans to vote not to support their activities, when American troops were in combat.
To me, that's a real indicator of a man who is motivated not by patriotism or support for
the troops, but for partisan political purposes.

[grytpype]

22. Bravo! If all of our spokesmen had those balls....

... we'd be looking pretty good right now.

[kainah]

25. oh thank you, Wesley

You're looking better to me every day. Anyone who can smack down that little cockroach with such finesse is a true leader.

[Gingergal]

23. DeLay is very dangerous. He wants to redistrict Texas so he

will have all the new repuke Congressmen owing him loyalty for giving them their jobs and will be voted in speaker of the House, in line for the presidency in case bush-cheney get impeached.
Urge Congress to investigate DeLay and Westar and also send to Justice Dept.
<http://capwiz.com/publicampaign/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=2547671>

and here is an anti-Tom DeLay petition.

<http://www.petitiononline.com/tdl0000/>

[ILeft]

26. OMFG! Tom Delay could become President? What a world...

It seems so incredible, but 15 years ago who would have taken 1000-1 odds that a drunken f-up named George Walker Bush would be pResident? Do you think President Delay would be a compassionate conservative like Dubya???

[Capt_Nemo]

31. Easier said then done - typical chickenhawk overstretch

Clark said to Blitzer that right now there are bogged down in Iraq
more than half of the DEPLOYABLE US army troops.

Syria? Iran? Yeah, right...

[0007]

32. "Either join us against these terrorists or suffer the consequences"

Is this a threat? Americans have already chased after one lie.

If ya ask me, I think Tom DeLay is motivational to the terrorist!

[salin]

33. So is joining the neocon pentagon crew who are attempting to nullify

the "war on terror" - by actively working against statedepartment efforts with each of these countries to make arrests of those with ties to al qeada.

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16597
A Bigger, Badder Sequel to Iran-Contra

By Jim Lobe, Inter Press Service
August 13, 2003

The specter of the Iran-Contra affair is haunting Washington. Some of the people and countries are the same, and so are the methods – particularly the pursuit by a network of well-placed individuals of a covert, parallel foreign policy that is at odds with official policy.

Boiled down to its essentials, the Iran-Contra affair was about a small group of officials based in the National Security Council (NSC) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that ran an "off-the-books" operation to secretly sell arms to Iran in exchange for hostages. The picture being painted by various insider sources in the media suggests a similar but far more ambitious scheme at work.

Taken collectively, what these officials describe and what is already on the public record suggests the existence of a disciplined network of zealous, like-minded individuals. Centered in Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith's office and around Richard Perle in the Defense Policy Board in the Pentagon, this exclusive group of officials operates under the aegis of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney.
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It appears that certain elements in the Pentagon leadership, specifically Douglas Feith, are trying to sabotage sensitive talks between Teheran and the State Department to promote cooperation over al-Qaeda and other pressing issues affecting Afghanistan and Iraq. The Pentagon clique thinks Ledeen's old friend Ghorbanifar can help, according to Newsday, which reported Friday that two of Feith's senior aides – without notice to the other agencies – have held several meetings with the Iranian, whom the CIA has long considered "an intelligence fabricator and nuisance."


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Item Two: U.S. aircraft and Special Operations Forces (SOF) intercepted and destroyed a residential compound and two small convoys that were heading from Iraq into Syria in mid-June, killing as many as 80 civilians. They then subdued and arrested five Syrian guards across the border, taking them back to Iraq, where they were held and interrogated for five days, despite strong objections from the State Department.

The Pentagon, for its part, claims that it suspected senior Hussein officials of trying to make a run for it on a smuggling route. But an expose last month by the New Yorker suggests that the raid and arrests may have been part of a deliberate effort to inflame tensions with Damascus in an effort to put an end to the remarkably close level of cooperation between Syria, the CIA and the State Department in the campaign against al-Qaeda.


And More....

[kainah]

35. That's an amazing article. Everyone should read it. n/t

[dansolo]

34. What about Pakistan?

Isn't that allegedly where Osama bin Laden has been hanging out?