CBS Airing New Anti-Clinton Ad

[owillis]

http://mediamatters.org/items/200406180006

CBS to air new "anti-Clinton ad"?

Citizens United ad would apparently violate CBS's stated policy not to run "advocacy" ads on "controversial issues of public importance"

Click here to contact CBS

CBS is apparently set to run a new TV advertisement attacking former President Bill Clinton that appears to violate the network's stated prohibition on "advocacy" ads that deal with "controversial issues of public importance." Under the headline "Citizens United Launches New Anti-Clinton Ad Campaign to Air during '60 Minutes' Interview," Citizens United (led by David N. Bossie) announced on its website the new ad is to air during Clinton's June 20 appearance on CBS's news program 60 Minutes. The self-described "advocacy" group explained, "Amidst the hype surrounding the release of former President Clinton's new book, 'My Life', Citizens United sets the record straight by exposing the real legacy President Bill Clinton left for America."

The Citizens United ad claims that Clinton is "responsible" for "leaving us vulnerable to terrorists."

[kanrok]

1. Shhhh....don't tell Bossie that Clinton is no longer the president.

[geek tragedy]

2. Please let them try it.

Just remind the country of how nauseating the Republicans were in the 90's, and how they tried to blame everything on Clinton and how obsessively hateful of Clinton they were.

Please, please, please.

[uptown ruler]

3. complete and total...

garbage...


Spread the Word
CausePimpingThePeopleAin’tEasy

[xchrom]

4. bwahahaha -- this is hysterical

these people are just plain nuts!:silly: :silly: :silly:

[dolo amber]

58. Indeed

That was my first reaction as well...:7 :crazy:


Oooooooookay dudes, WHATever...:eyes:

[proud patriot]

5. Two faced bastards

:mad:

[tridim]

6. I guess nobody remembers the MoveOn/Superbowl fiasco

Thanks to Janet's tit.

[olddem43]

7. what was that about?

[UpInArms]

46. I think you're asking

what the CBS/Moveon ad during the stuperbowl issue is:

http://www.adage.com/paypoints/buyArticle.cms/login?newsId=39590&auth=

CBS REJECTS ANTI-BUSH SUPER BOWL COMMERCIAL


WASHINGTON (AdAge.com) -- Viacom's CBS today rejected a request from liberal group MoveOn to air a 30-second anti- President Bush ad during the Super Bowl, saying the spot violated the network's policy against running issue advocacy advertising.

and Janet Jackson?

well, story goes:

she had a "wardrobe malfunction" during the stuperbowl's half-time



just remember CBS "doesn't want controversy" <snicker>

and Welcome to DU! :hi:

[rkc3]

8. Janet who and what about her titties?

Stupid fucks (on edit).

[geek tragedy]

17. With all this Clinton talk

the first "Janet" that occurred to me was Janet Reno. Thanks for that lovely visual.

[salin]

79. Exactly - CBS needs to be called on their b.s., if this is true

it directly contradicts their policy stated to MOVEON. Let them know that WE recognize this - and find their bias rather theatening... to democracy - in that they appear to only support airing (PAID FOR COMMERCIAL TIME) for "issue advocacy ads" for one political side. Guess the "marketplace" is for everything except exchange of ideas.

[olddem43]

9. But isn't Clinton responsible for

every bad thing that happened since the Carter Administration?

[crossroads]

23. 22 million jobs, a great economy and much more despite having to fend

off a Repuk Senate and record amount of attacks on his financial dealings, NONE of which were ever proven! I wish we could return to the days of Clinton, who was guilty of ONE lie and not the staggering amount of lies of the present Busco mis-administration...
Clinton was the greatest!!!
:bounce:

BTW, welcome to DU! :hi:

[4_Legs_Good]

10. WTF???? Does this make *any* sense?

I normally think that even radical righties, while ill intentioned, aren't insane. This doesn't make any sense! They're gonna run an anti-Clinton ad?

What?

Do they want to bring Clinton up on treason charges? Do they want to encourage people to boycott his book? Is he running for some sort of public office?

Huh?

Or, maybe, or are they trying to deflect the damage that the 9/11 committee report is going to cause to the Bush regime?

This is rediculous

david

[AlGore-08.com]

36. They are doing it for three very obvious reasons

1.) Their base absolutely rabidly hates Clinton. (During the CA recall election, I was "privilidged" to witness a conversation with a coworker where he nearly had a stroke over the fact that Clinton was allowed to publicly read from the bible. He seriously used the word "sacrelidge" to describe the event. And I was the only person in the room who disagreed with him.) Reminding their base of what they hate about Democrats motivate them to get to the polls.

2.) Clinton is very popular among African-Americans and hard core democrats, two groups who Team Bush is not even trying to win over. However, moderates and independents still have a very negative opinion of Clinton. The press hate his guts as well, and can be counted on to focus on the trivia that make so many swing staters dislike him intensely (i.e.: his extra martial affair).

Just as this will motivate the far right to get out and vote, it will demotivate a certain amount of moderates and independents, who will decide that at least Smirk brought honor and dignitude back to the White House and vote for him - - or they'll get so disgusted they'll stay home and not vote at all.

3.) The Kerry campaign has made a lot of noise about using Clinton in their campaign. The far right are going to smear Clinton as much as possible, and link Clinton as much as possible to Kerry. In doing so, they hope to drive Kerry's negatives up even more - - because, again, if the undecideds stay home, equally disgusted with both Kerry and Bush, and/or enough moderates change their minds about voting for Kerry, Smirk wins.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

59. Responses...

1) Their base has gotten considerably smaller over the last 3.5 years.

2) Moderates, independents and some republicans are beginning to see that Clinton's policies are far more preferable to those of the FratBoy Fuhrer. As the last legally elected president, Clinton oversaw a roaring economy, a balanced budget, a 3.9% unemployment rate, a few limited wars with finite objectives, and a budget surplus that held a lot of promise for the future. His administration also repeatedly warned the NeoCons that Al Qaeda meant business. All of that has been kicked into the ditch by the NeoCon Junta.

3) Gore failed to use Clinton in his campaign, and it hurt him, IMHO. Let them smear Clinton all they want...let's see how he responds to those people this time around. By the time the election is over, Kerry will be glad that he asked for the Big Dawg's help.

IMHO, your three points sound like NeoCon talking points.

[w4rma]

85. AlGore2004dotORG, is correct, imho. That is their strategy. (nt)

[AlGore-08.com]

90. My 3 points sound like NeoCon talking points cuz they are NeoCon strategy

I was answering the question posted - - why are they doing this? The answer is it's part of their campaign strategy. It was part of their campaign strategy in 1992, it was part of their campaign strategy in 1994, 1996, 2000, 2002 and it is part of their campaign strategy in 2004: smear promenent Dems until they are forever discredited in the minds of most of the population, then link those discredited Dems to whoever is running.

I can understand their strategy without being a NeoCon. And I believe that it's not possible to beat them without understanding what they are doing.

My response to your three points are:

1.) You say their base has gotten considerably smaller over the last 3.5 years. Actually, it hasn't. That's why the country continues to poll about evenly between Smirk and Kerry, despite the fact that Smirk couldn't find his butt with a map, a compass, a flash light and a neon sign that flashes "This is your butt, this is your butt, this is your butt". There was an article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution this morning about Team Smirk's continuing outreach to the evangelical Christian community. It points out that there were 4 million evangelicals who did not vote in 2000 who mostly live in swing states. Those are the folks that Team Smirk is trying to motivate to get to the polls this time. That, and they are trying to hold onto at least half the Catholic vote (which they still have at this point). That drive to keep half the Catholic vote is the main reason that Smirk is doing photo-ops with the Pope and the GOP is getting some Catholic bishops etc. to denounce Catholics who vote for pro-choice candidates and deny Kerry communion. That's why the GOP congress wants to revise the campaign laws and allow churchs to get involved in politics. That's why when McCain stumps for Smirk, he calls Smirk "a great moral leader". Because they are involved in a campaign of equating Christianity with the GOP. And it is working, and we should all understand just how dangerous it is.

2.) The point about moderates and independents appreciating the Clinton economy is not the point - - because this GOP strategy has nothing to do with policy. It has to do with people's gut reactions - - how they feel about their religion, how they feel about America, who they are prejuidiced against, what they fear. All you have to do is look the many religious wars in the past, and look at the countries where religion plays an open role in politics to see that it's not that hard to get people to vote against their best interests by appealing to their fears, hatred or group identity.

On a personal level, as I said, Clinton is still loathed by the GOP base and disliked by millions of independents and moderates. If you actually read all of the articles that have come out which state some variant of "the Kerry campaign believes Gore made a mistake in not using Clinton enough in 2000, and they are determined not to repeat that mistake", you'll see that some of the articles admit that Democratic Party polling shows that Clinton is still viewed very negatively by moderates and independents - - and the Kerry campaign is not really sure how to use Clinton in a way that won't turn off those people. The last specific thing I read about how Kerry is planning to use Clinton is that Clinton will make a speech at the convention, do fundraising, campaign in various African-American communities, and campaign in Arkansas. Except for Arkansas, that's exactly how Gore used Clinton in 2000.

3.) IYHO, not using Clinton hurt Gore. But the polling during the 2000 campaign showed that every time Clinton spoke publicly about Gore, Gore sank in the polls. The CNN exit polls showed that 60% of those who voted had a negative opinion of Clinton. And those who had a positive opinion of Clinton voted overwhelmingly for Gore. The idea that Gore "distanced himself from Clinton due to Clinton's scandals" is a media misrepresentation of a political reality of running for President as a sitting Vice President - - there has only been one one sitting Vice President who ever won the Presidency by embracing his boss. That was George Bush Sr. Every other Vice President who has won, has won by showing that he is "his own man".

It's just common sense, anyway. If you were interviewing people for a job, and you asked a candidate to explain why you should hire him, and that candidate only talked about his boss - - how great a job his boss does, and what a great guy his boss is - - you'd never hire him. Especially after you said, "that's great, but what have you done?" and he launched into another tribute to his boss. At the very least, you'd wonder if he's such an idiot that he doesn't get that he's the one applying for the job, not his boss. You'd certainly suspect that he is covering up something by refusing to talk about himself.

Regardless of this, as I said above, Gore used Clinton almost as much as Kerry is planning on using Clinton. Additionally, Gore spent a lot of time and effort campaigning for Hillary Clinton in New York (anybody know how many times Bill Clinton publicly campaigned for his wife in 2000?).

So what exactly is it that Gore did in 2000 in relation to Clinton that pissed off so many people that they stayed home, rather than vote for Gore? Gore never said anything negative about Clinton, in fact, every public statement he made about Clinton was full of praise. He talked endlessly about the successes of the Clinton/Gore admin, using the same stats that Clinton uses today.

In fact, Gore was bashed endlessly in the media in 2000 for not distancing himself from Clinton "enough". The idea that Gore "distanced himself from Clinton" arrose as a meme after Bush v Gore, when the media was working very hard to make people forget how Smirk actually ended up in the White House. If it matters, the press started parroting "Gore blew the election by distancing himself from Clinton" at the same time that they were lying about the Clintons looting the White House.

Finally, the fact that you're pissed off at Gore for doing something he really didn't do should show you how successful their strategy is. They have used your feelings about Clinton to do an end run around the facts and discredit Gore enough so that he was unable to run in 2004. This NeoCon strategy works, because we let it.

[LTR]

11. Contact CBS, and let them know

http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.shtml

[murielm99]

14. Done! nt

[Luminous Animal]

15. Contact CBS

And let them know about the controversy surrounding their stance in regards to the ad that MoveOn.org wanted to air during the superbowl.

At the time CBS said this:

"CBS says the sponsor, an online activist group called MoveOn.org, crossed the line by attempting to use Super Bowl airtime as a platform for public debate: something CBS and other networks have banned for years. "The network simply does not accept any advocacy advertising of any kind," says CBS Executive Vice President Martin Franks."

It will be interesting to see how they justify running the Citizens United ad. If they jusitify it, that is.

[crossroads]

24. Welcome to DU!

:hi: I will contact them...

[Luminous Animal]

30. Thank you for the welcome.

I wrote a nice letter with a few white lies saying that I gave them the benefit of the doubt during the MoveOn ad controversy but I now feel as though their decisions (now and then) were based on political ideology rather than company policy.

[Tippy]

44. Here is the one I WANT to send................

Issue Ad's...I am going to be a little different than most...I support President Clinton, always have and always will and I think you should run the ad's, I know he will sell at least twice the amount of books and maybe more....He can laugh all the way to the bank...He who laughs last laughs best...!

[October]

29. Done!

Is anyone else growing weary of being outraged? I keep fighting, but good godess it never ends.

[Kukesa]

35. Done. n/t

[steely]

39. Ditto

I just submitted my 'feedback' to CBS.

[doni_georgia]

41. Done. Thanks for the head's up.

[Algomas]

77. Here's my feedback..

"I have heard that you are planning to run an ad smearing Clinton on 60 Minutes, paid for by obvious right-wing propagandists.
How low can you go???
1933 Germany, here we come. I am a true believer in democracy and to see our beautiful country brought down by greed and paranoia is breaking my heart.
Thanks for nothing.
By not fulfilling your primary job of public watchdog, you are forcing me to tune you out of my family's life."

I would like to know who their biggest advertisers are and send this message to them as well. Anyone have that info handy?

[HarveyBrooks]

98. I think it's REAL important

that we contact their advertisers (& let cbs know we have)ASAP.
I've been trying to find a list on the web but no luck so far.

[robbedvoter]

12. Here's mine:

Moveon ads are unacceptable, but anti-Clinton adds by the Citizens United are A-OK? No problems with advocacy on public issues anymore? Their money don't smell to you? Only ours? You are the liberal media, right?

[bleedingheart]

13. can we all say BIG WASTE OF MONEY...but then again

Scaife has more than enough to burn on this kind of shit.

[aquart]

21. Tax the rich!

[Mountainman]

16. Clinton hatred has to be some kind of mental illness.

I wonder if the AMA or some professional psychiatric organization has come up with a name for it? ICF Disorder? It's Clinton's Fault Disorder.

To be so anti Clinton 3 years after his presidency has to be an illness I'm sure. Even those of us who did not like Reagan would not do the things Clinton haters do.

They are so upset that their lies about Clinton will not become part of American history.

[Bandit]

20. I think some actually made a living off Clinton hatred and they are

losing their sugar tit. They feel the need to get some of it back instead of finding new drivel to expound upon. I think they would make even more off the escapades of the Bush* Cabal if they were to give it a whirl.

[janx]

27. You're certainly right about that. Rush still tries on a regular

basis.

[comsymp]

84. Think it's called Clenophobia

[Malva Zebrina]

18. Oh--is Clinton running again?

gee--I am so pleased that we have that choice.

REally--is Clinton running again?

You know what these losers are trying to do? Stir up the hatred and the sick outrage against Clinton and transfer it to Kerry.


What the hell does Clinton have to do with anything that has happened in the past four or so years? He is NOT even invovlved with any of it. He is NOT running for president. He is simply writing his book and travelling and enjoying his marriage to Hillary.

They, the lacking, are playing to the shrunken brain trailer trash heads who love to obsess on sex.

They are really so despicable as to be evil

[Gin]

19. Pathetic diversion from a pathetic group of loons.... they are laughable.

g

[crossroads]

26. Guess they can't take the fact Clinton is still popular, eh?

:shrug:

[JDPriestly]

22. Actually,

how many right-wingers do you suppose will watch Clinton's interview just to see the anti-Clinton ad? Maybe they'll learn something of value. Nothing the right wing did really hurt Clinton's popularity for the simple reason that Clinton is and always was 100% himself -- and he's great.

[luaneryder]

25. Emailed network, thanks n/t

[readmylips]

28. Prez Clinton received consented sex.....bush...

sodomized the nation....very Christian act.

Got that line from neighbor.

[CBHagman]

31. These losers (i.e., Bossie and co) will do this until they die.

Clinton's enemies are the most vindictive, relentless, graceless, vicious and utterly predictable group of people. Let them waste their money on this hate-fest. Just so long as these clowns don't get their paws on our tax dollars, we can leave them to, one would hope, discover some kind of a 12-step program. THEY ARE PATHETIC.

[truthseeker1]

32. Hey, free advertising for Clinton's book.....

not such a bad deal. The freepers will find this backfiring on them.
:evilgrin: :bounce:

[Piperay]

33. Hahahahaha 'Citizens United' must be

pretty scared of the Democrats if they have to take out an ad against a man who left office almost FOUR fucking years ago! :eyes:

[fearnobush]

34. Pretty dumb waste of time and money too. These evil minions of

Satan. These people of great dark negative hate are attempting to shape history. They will die for history to have a negative view of Clinton. Only problem is that history's mark will be made by people who havent been born yet and the presidential account will be researched well after they are dead.

Tell the Whore Media How many thousands of people were needlessly killed by Reagan's drugs for arms. Then ask them, How may were killed by Clinton's Blow Job. Fucking Puke Whore media.

"Shipping powders back and forth, black goes south and white comes north" - John Barlow/Bob Weir (Throwing Stones)

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[AndyTiedye]

37. So It Begins

What will we do when the networks decide to accept only Republican ads.
No fairness doctrine anymore, so that would be AOK with the FCC.

[Luminous Animal]

38. RE: So It Begins

And that is why it is so important that we respond. The corporations that run the media do not care if we are left or right, they only care about making money. The money they make is based on their audience, if enough of their audience express displeasure, they might listen.

[Beetwasher]

40. This Is Actually A SICKNESS

There is a large group of people in this country who are, in fact, quite insane. I'm not kidding. It's the same sickness that overcame the German public in the late 1930's.

[progressivebydesign]

42. Clinically ill.. true.

I read a fascinating article a few years ago, and believe I may have heard something on NPR about this. There IS a mental illness as people here are describing. It normally aflicts males, and it usually manifests in angry, paranoid behavior.. remember the guy recently that ran the tankified bulldozer thru his town because he was mad at the city permitting process? He ended his own life. This is an actual illness. Often the targets are politicians, cities, or people they believe have harmed them or cheated them. It's not strictly a paranoia thing, it's an angry-white-male thing. And it has been documented.

[Luminous Animal]

45. RE: "This Is Actually A SICKNESS"

So it is a sickness, then what do you do?

It is not my intent to come down on DU and I make absolutely no assumption about any or all of its members commitment to fighting for change but (as a long time lurker... and I am talking years here) I have to wonder whether this board is useful for activism. Or any board, for that matter. Are we just here to complain or do we fight on every front. The mass media owns our hearts and minds and the only way to take some control, even a corner of it, is to fight back.

It would have been really cool to see that most of the people who have posted to this thread also sent an email to CBS. And if they did, they need to state it because there is strength in numbers.

[Beetwasher]

48. Those Are Good Questions

If you're asking me if I am personally active, I can tell you that I am, and I do my part. Writing letters being merely one thing I do do on a regular basis.

As far as the sickness I'm discussing, that is a bit more difficult to answer. What do you do? You try to counter it somehow obviously. The methods on exactly HOW to do that vary depending upon your personal philosophy.

[Luminous Animal]

50. Yikes!

No, I would never presume to ask anyone what they do personally.

To clarify...

The mass media has the most control on the information that we receive, that is... they can choose to investigate or they can choose to withhold.

The mass media is our main source of information so it is in our best interest to exert some control.

The mass media does not care what our political affiliation is, they want to make money, thus it is in our best interest to bend the mass media to reflect all of us.

The best way to bend them is to let them know how we feel about their coverage and policies and to withhold our viership.

I know that those of us who do act do so based on our personal philosophy, but, the time it took to respond on this thread would equal the time it would take to respond to CBS.

[Beetwasher]

88. Well, Then I Hope You Did Respond

Since you seem so moved to do so! You won't be alone, many who post here do in fact write a great deal of letters and regularly let the mass media know what they think.

I can't disagree w/ anything you said. Many groups are in fact doing just that, exerting control on behalf of people who have been feeling unempowered. MoveOn, TBTM etc. You're contributing to one such group right now. There are quite a few more.

[Geo55]

47. yes ....but

They do not yet have the "misery index" of the German people of that period....they are working on it...and the ideology to manipulate it.
dissent = unpatriotic , us against a world that plots against our "freedoms" , "we are fighting for our very survival" , "all our problems result from terrorists" (and THEY are EVERYWHERE)"

First they came for the Jews.........

[Beetwasher]

49. Perhaps

Thought the misery index is certainly relative. There are lot's of people hurting in this country and we do not have the true picture of just how many, and it's getting worse. "misery" in 1930's Germany would be far different than "misery" today, where it might mean not being able to fill up your SUV w/ gas.

[Geo55]

53. not being able to fill up your SUV

Agreed....The real reason we are building 14 permanent bases in Iraq...THEY are threatening our God given lifestyle.

[goforit]

43. If the Reagan family can sue Bush, Can't Clinton sue this group???

Or does he suffer from the abused spouse syndrome?

The way he kisses Bush's A, I'm beginning to wonder.

[Whoa_Nelly]

51. Why is that CBS has so much info and latitude?

CBS--won't show MoveOn.org ad during Superbowl. Cites will not support advocay
CBS--Will air Bush campaign ad during Superbowl
CBS--has Abu Ghraib torture photos and makes deal with politicos to not air these for two weeks
CBS--Interviewing Clinton re: his book, and also allowing advocacy ad to air that will remind all the ideologues why they hate Clinton, Democrats, thus advocating partisanship, as well as creating more national divisiveness.

Why is CBS such a powerful media whore for the Right, yet is lauded for being so "bold" in news journalism?

WHY? WHY? WHY???
and :wtf:

...And Jingo was his name-o!

[Democat]

52. Everyone needs to call CBS - letters aren't enough!

They need to know that protecting Bush and attacking Clinton by their network will be bad for their business.

Is someone putting together a list of other sponsors to contact in case CBS doesn't back down from this?

[alfredo]

54. Let them do it. It will backfire on them big time.

It will be seen as a cheap shot.

[dflprincess]

55. Perhaps it's time for MoveOn to get CBS to run an ad

"setting the record straight by exposing the real legacy Presidents Reagan, Bush I and Bush II have left for America"

[Catherine Vincent]

56. This is fucking sad!

Excuse my language but this is so sad. This Clinton-hate has got to stop. I heard that Bossie prick the other day on Hardball, I believe. This guy needs to get a FUCKING LIFE!

[babzilla]

87. David Bossie's "so called life"

oh he's got a life alright.

David Bossie's life revolves around perpetuating the heretofore profitable industry of Clinton-hate.

He is one of the founding members of the vast right wing conspiracy. I like to think of him as the Ahmad Chalabi of the VRWC.

His greatest hits collection include (but are not limited to):

http://www.americanpolitics.com/050798DISpatch.html

In 1992, Bossie was working for the right-wing organization Citizens United (the group that "invented" Willie Horton). As executive director of Citizens United chairman Floyd Brown's "Presidential Victory Committee," he used taped conversations allegedly between then-Governor Bill Clinton and Gennifer Flowers as part of an advertising and "800" number scheme to smear Clinton. The tapes have since been discredited because they were edited and doctored. A direct mailing from Citizens United using this material was made to look as if it were an "official" mailing from Bush campaign -- and the Bush people alerted the FEC to the mailings in an effort to stop them!

Bossie spent a great deal of time in 1992 in Arkansas, digging dirt on Clinton. David Corn reports in the May 6, 1998 issue of Salon that "at one point, Bossie got into a fistfight in Arkansas with a private detective who claimed Bossie had welshed on a $10,000 payment for anti-Clinton material."

That same year, Bossie harassed the family of a suicide victim. "An anonymous and untraceable letter" was faxed to some 30 news organizations "claiming Clinton had had an affair with a former law student who committed suicide 15 years ago," an "emotionally distraught young woman, seven-months pregnant" named Susan Coleman. Only after the fact of the fax campaign did Bossie attempt to contact the family for "confirmation," and did so in a repetitive and unrelenting manner suggestive more of harrassment than fact-checking. Bossie, with help from former Washington DC police officer James Murphy, went so far as to follow Susan's mother to a hospital in Augusta, Georgia, where her husband was seriously ill and recovering from a stroke. They "burst into the sick man's room and began questioning the shaken mother about her daughter's suicide." (Source: CBS News, July 13, 1992, quoted at The Allodium web site)

<snip/>

Citizens United produced the video "Clinton Chronicles," based largely on dirt Bossie had been digging in Arkansas. The video, filled with a plethora of factual errors and uncorroborated or disproven rumors, has been almost completely discredited.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

89. Bossie on the rampage!

[babzilla]

91. Oh, Bossie's on the rampage alright

[cease_fire]

57. In the amount of time it takes you to read these posts...

You could be leaving feedback for CBS.

Do it.

Here's the link to leave feedback for CBS:

http://www.cbs.com/info/user_services/fb_global_form.shtml


Here's a template of feedback that you can alter to suit your outrage and leave for their managment:


-----

Your plan to allow Citizens United to run an anti-Clinton ad is absolutely despicable.

Bill Clinton is not a presidential candidate, nor does he set policy in this country. Allowing a smear ad to run will be regarded by the public and legal entities as slanderous.

Moveon ads are unacceptable, but anti-Clinton adds by the Citizens United are A-OK? No problems with advocacy on public issues anymore?

Your refusal to run liberal ads and accepting conservative ads (about citizens not currently holding or running for office) clearly indicates corporate influence – negating any credibility your organization has.

You’ve lost yet another viewer by becoming part of the political machine instead of reporting it.

----

Take 30 seconds and do something about this.

[WillParkinson]

60. Oh, it's done!

Did it when I first read this.

[TankLV]

97. Done.

My first ever to a network.

This has gone too far.

[daleo]

61. A certain kind of right winger blames Clinton for killing the dinosaurs

At least those who believer there ever were dinosaurs.

[Swede]

62. And oh yeah, big dog like blow jobs

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[Catherine Vincent]

66. You people?

Go away, you STINK!

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[GinaMaria]

92. You are on the DemocratIC Underground

"you people" does not sound polite. Where did the post you replied to say anything about Bush?

[uhhuh]

64. I've sent in my thoughts

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[Catherine Vincent]

73. lmao!

;-)

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[uhhuh]

76. I knew the farm sex was all you wanted

try google

[TLDHOME99]

80. Happy to. www.freerepublic.com

:hi:

[BiggJawn]

83. "He disrupted poorly"....

Dontcha just get TIRED of these ass-clowns?

[Kukesa]

95. No, actually, I'm amazed!

I'm still kind of new and I LOVE it when you "seasoned" folks take down a freeper. Keep up the good work; I'm looking forward to the day when I'm well informed enough to do the same.

[alarcojon]

93. Thank you so much for enlightening us!

Not! But keep up your delusion if you must.

[Occulus]

96. The point of this entire thread

is how CBS is going to air an anti-Clinton ad. Given that Clinton is now a private citizen (as so many past Republican presidents have been called), it is somewhat chilling to see a major news network so blatantly "going after" him.

One wonders how long it will be before it starts "going after" others on the left who are fairly prominent. If we are not able to express our points of view (say, in a book) without being personally intimidated by an enormous corporation with a realistically limitless budget compared to the common man (or even a former President), what exactly is our First Amendment for?

At no point did any part of this thread refer to it being Bush's fault. Whatever gave you the impression any of this was about him?

[Bo]

71. whores

Thats all,Ive to say

[Bo]

74. ahhhhh yes the anti clinton

republicns so stupid..........

[Fear]

78. Not so much in the know of Clinton / and his policies - please help

So I was curious, I'm assuming what they have showed had happened. What where his policies against this at that time. I need a bit of ammo cause I can just already see this lame attack coming from my republican friends (who also seen this).

I mean it's all seriously horrible that it happened, but well..

Bombed the WTC - ehm......who was involved there again?
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=wtc_bombing
- 6 dead

US embassies where hit
1996 June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
- 19 dead
1998 Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. Four men, two of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.
- 224 dead


USS Cole was hit (oct 12, 2000)
- 17 dead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3550311.stm

Which brings the body count up to 17+224+19+6=266? during Bill Clinton's *EIGHT* year period?......compared to ehm....4000+ deaths (lost count) during Bush's 3 1/2 year period?!?!?!?!?!

(and I have left out the Veigh bombing / since I find that an internal incident)

Ehm, isn't around 266 a bit less then all the lives lost at this time? PLEASE CORRECT ME WHEN I'M WRONG SOMEWHERE, I'm not an expert in this either.... so please give me some more information in regard to Clinton's policies at that time.

[cap]

81. you can answer this quickly...

during Bill Clinton, the number of Americans who died due to terrorism was the lowest number in 50 years.

Better record than Reagan (Beirut bombing) or Bush Sr and Jr. Go on the web and get the stats yourself.

[Triana]

82. I wonder if they would have aired an ad...

... during RONALD REAGAN week that "sets the record straight by exposing the real legacy President Ronald Reagan left for America"? RONNIE cavorted with, and supplied money, intelligence, and equipment to the damned terrorists, so I think that would have been MOST apropos myself.

Given the FACTS surrounding Duhbya's failure before, during, and after 9-11, it's no wonder the wingnuts want to change Duhbya's diapers - all the while screeching "CLINTON DID IT!"

[ldf]

86. done

my response:

i don't get it.

cbs wouldn't air the moveon.org ad during the superbowl, but WILL air an anti-clinton ad while clinton is being interviewed.

do you care at all whether the ad is the truth or not? no sane person who is willing to look at actual events could come to the conclusion that the 9-11/terrorism was clinton's fault.

on the contrary, he did what he could, yet all the while having "wag the dog" screamed at him, having all his attempts tied to monica lewinsky.

then he leaves office telling w bush that terrorism will be his #1 priority, complete with a commission report chaired by al gore, to back him up.

so what is the response? bush hated clinton and gore so much that he refused to follow any of their suggestions concerning our nation's safey, and has tried to undo everything they ever did that improved the environment or advanced social causes.

clinton did a lot for the country. and you have finally gotten him to talk about his presidency, including all the bad times, and you want to sabotage it in the name of the rabid right, who hate clinton with an unhealthy passion.

just exactly what are you trying to accomplish?

to take the truth and twist it is to turn it into a lie. and that is exactly what clinton's detractors want to do.

and you are being an accomplice to the lies.

is it just for money? will you, cbs, one of the last bastions on legitimacy left of current news agencies, sell your reputation and the desire to appear "balanced", for money, while knowingly airing lies?

the only FAIR way to do it is to let clinton respond, immediately after the ad. he is intelligent enough to do it. it wouldn't take him more than a minute to shred their arguments.

it really makes me wonder if you will only do what would seem to be good, as long as you can counteract it with whatever it takes to please the right. believing that to air their lies is to prove balance.

they have been the ruin of this country, and the media have participated 100% in it's ruination. we would not be in the mess we are in if you had done your jobs.

too bad we have to read and watch foreign press for the truth.

i will be watching 60 minutes, and i WILL be responding.

you can do the right thing, or you can be a sellout.

xxxx
manhattan

[Gold Metal Flake]

94. Here is my complaint just sent.

With regard to the decision by CBS to run an politically motivated advertisement by Citizens United that is described to claim that Clinton is "responsible" for "leaving us vulnerable to terrorists." This advertisement is in conflict with CBS's own stated commercial policy.

"The network simply does not accept any advocacy advertising of any kind," says CBS Executive Vice President Martin Franks.

This advertisement is clearly a political hate ad to further the interests of a political candidate at the expense of a political figure who is not running for office. It attempts to create a negative association with a rival political candidate. The information contained in the ad is not cited, is not factual, and certainly CBS will not explore the claims and allow an immediate corrective response each and every time the ad is aired. Airing this ad is issue advocacy in its truest and most blatant sense.

CBS news was in operation during the dismantling of America's anti-terror infrastructure following the installment of the current administration in 2001. CBS news was in operation during the refusal by the current State Department to allow John O'Neil to complete his investigation of the bombing of the Cole. CBS news was in operation when the Justice Department shut down the issuance of FISA warrants for anti-terror investigations. CBS news was in operation while the Phoenix memo was ignored. CBS news was in operation as our Executive Branch ignored terrorism. CBS news failed to inform the public of any of this until it was too late.

If it is the intention of the CBS network to work against the interests of the general public, perhaps the CBS network should simply be honest and issue a public statement to that effect. Or, are we to assume that by airing this ad you are doing just that?

[OKNancy]

99. This isn't a done deal, is it?

I didn't post yesterday about this because I just don't believe it will happen.

Also....they have changed the title on media matters to:

CITIZENS UNITED AD MAY RUN DURING 60 MINUTES; AD SEEMS TO VIOLATE CBS' S POLICY AGAINST "ADVOCACY ADVERTISING"

Now it reads....MAY run the ad. Bet it doesn't.

[peekaloo]

100. Citizens United Need Therapists

would make a nice acronym.....}(

The Clenis just won't leave the building! :D

[melv]

101. done!

[melv]

102. done!