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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:41 AM
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House OKs snowmobiles in West's parks
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 11:45 AM by Tyler Durden
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-06-18-yellowstone_x.htm?csp=28


WASHINGTON (AP) — The House
voted Thursday to let snowmobiles continue using Yellowstone and
Grand Teton national parks, as the recreation industry dealt a defeat
to environmentalists.


(snip)


"Yellowstone National Park is a unique environment, a precious
national treasure that deserves an extra level of protection," said
Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J., one of the sponsors.

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Snowmobile advocates — backed by snowmobile manufacturers
and tourism interests — said a ban would devastate the local
economy around the parks, which lie mostly in northwestern
Wyoming. They also said that despite their opponents' assertions,
new snowmobiles are cleaner and quieter than older models.

(snip)

You know what? If these Red State Reactionaries want to piss in the pond that the rest of the country supports, perhaps we should remember this the next time the pendelum swings our way..?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:45 AM
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1. as long as they're utterly silent & run on moonbeams
i have no problem with this.

snowmobiles, dirt bikes, and ski doos are the bane of my search for peace & quiet.

and leaf blowers.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:47 AM
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2. But they aren't Blanche, they aren't!
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:48 AM
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3. Don't we ALL own the parks?
Perhaps it's time we reminded people out west of that fact.

The parks do not exist to support dirt bike/atv/snowmobile dealers. IMHO, we should remove all the helmet laws and operator education laws so these individuals "Darwin" themselves out of the gene pool as fast as posible.

IT'S A FUCKING NATIONAL PARK. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE REMOTE AND HARD TO GET TO. THAT'S THE MAIN REASON NOBODY'S FIGHTING TO BUILD CONDOS THERE.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 11:50 AM
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4. Didn't some judge issue a ruling AGAINST this recently?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:21 PM
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10. Found it!
Judge Voids New Rule Allowing Snowmobiles in Yellowstone
By FELICITY BARRINGER

Published: December 17, 2003

WASHINGTON, Dec. 16 — On the eve of the winter snowmobile season in Yellowstone National Park, a federal district judge on Tuesday evening struck down the Bush administration's regulations permitting more than 950 snowmobiles a day in the park.

The judge, Emmet G. Sullivan, said the Clinton administration's decision to phase out snowmobile use in that sweeping landscape of canyons, geysers and jagged horizons had been arbitrarily reversed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/17/politics/17PARK.html?ex=1087704000&en=38cf2c37b6bfbb03&ei=5070
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:00 PM
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5. Then change the name to Yellowstone National Playground
Once again, this government has catered to the most selfish, gluttonous and wasteful elements of our culture.
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GreenGreenLimaBean Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:04 PM
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6. nothing is sacred to these fucks!
with this logic, dirt bikes should be allowed in Summertime. Heaven
forbid the fat lazy bastards actually walking around the park!!
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:07 PM
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7. Try lazy, fat, RICH bastards.
Have you priced one of these toys? I did, just out of curiousity (not interest). I paid about half as much for a GREAT used car as these clowns did for one of those beasts.

I say, TAX THE SHIT OUT OF THEM.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 04:02 PM
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13. Not to mention the fact that they use GASOLINE!
We simply cannot have too many gas guzzling vehicles in this country. In fact, I think they should make SUV sized snowmobiles and open up ALL the state parks to snowmobilers.

Greedy, f***ing, Oil sucking pigs.
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kerrycrat2k4 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 01:00 PM
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12. The best bet would be
To close as many gas stations down as possible in the area, forcing free market economics to act against these fat cats by allowing the remaining gas stations to raise thier prices to whatever the market will bear. This way we can keep the parks to ourselves, smug as bugs in a rug.
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:14 PM
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8. They're also pushing for the North Shore Road in the Great Smokies Park
Edited on Fri Jun-18-04 12:15 PM by LastDemocratInSC
Congressman Taylor, representing the western NC counties, is pushing money on the Park Service to build the long-dreaded North Shore Road along Fontana Lake - right through one of the last true, un-roaded wilderness areas in the Eastern US.

The Park Service doesn't want the road, the local governments affected don't want it, but Taylor does.

The road was promised after Fontana Lake was constructed during World War II to provide electricity to Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the Alcoa plant near Knoxville. A replacement road was built along the south shore of the lake to meet the needs of travel between communities but the road on the north shore was promised so that families could visit cemeteries that were made inaccessible by the road. The Park Service has provided shuttle service across the lake on pontoon boats for decades for cemetery services with few complaints.

The local communities settled with the Park Service a few years ago for a huge sum - millions of dollars each - and don't want to road built.

Taylor, naturally, is a Repuke scum bag.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:17 PM
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9. Is Taylor in a road builder's pocket?
Sure sounds like it.
"Say, Congressman, I just called to see if there was any movement on that North Shore Road and to see how you liked that trip to Curacao last month?"
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-04 12:57 PM
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11. Dateline: June 18, 2016
House Approves Snowmobile-mounted Machine Guns for Hunting

Washington (UPI) --- The House voted Friday to approve the latest national recreational fad, snowmobile hunting for endangered species. In yet another reverse for the legacy of the Clinton Administration and liberal environmentalists, snowmobilers will now be able to mount forward-looking infrared targeted machine guns of up to .50 caliber in order to improve accuracy and firepower.

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"Yellowstone National Park is a unique environment, a precious national treasure that provides gentlemen of means with valuable entertainment and the chance of significant largesse," said Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, R-GA, one of the sponsors. Bald eagle- and whooping crane carcasses command up to 20 thousand Euros ($1.5 billion) on the open market in several Southeast Asian nations.

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Texas Governor and unopposed-by-federal-statute Presidential Candidate Neal Bush voiced his approval of the vote, urging the Senate to pass the bill so that his brother, President Jeb Bush, can sign the bill into law before the end of his term. "I can think of nothing more fitting than to complete Jeb's legacy by closing off this chapter in the war against terrorism by finally erasing the avian threat to freedom-loving America once and for all," the Presidential only-runner said.

(snip)

Three whooping cranes and five bald eagles still reside on Yellowstone's 2,500 acres, in an underground detention facility. Each year a permit for each species is issued by lottery, and one to three birds are released to be hunted. By an amazing coincidence, former Vice President Dick Cheney has won the lottery eleven years in a row.

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