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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:12 AM
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Situation in Iraq not as bad as it could have been: Bush
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"A lot of things didn't happen that we thought might happen, the oil production, for example," Bush told Italian television. "We thought that would be blown up, and it would cost the Iraqi citizens a lot of money. It wasn't." "We thought that people would go hungry, or there would be mass refugees - neither of which happened," the US President said.

He also said that the coalition forces moved in so quickly to Baghdad that some of the Saddam loyalists dispersed without putting up a fight. When they regrouped and came back to fight "our troops were given the flexibility on the ground to deal with that," Bush said.

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"Now, I wish the Iraqi people had overwhelmingly said, 'thank you' for coming. I think they will," Bush hoped. "But some didn't. Some said, 'let's fight them'".

Stressing that going to war was a "very difficult decision, Bush said "I don't like war. But I'm the guy who has to decide, whether or not a Saddam Hussein would be a threat to peace. After having tried all diplomacy, war was the last option." The US President said he would work towards peace and freedom in Iraq which would serve as a "great moment of change" in the Middle East.

http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=20762


"Bush/Cheney '04: Iraq really could have been worse than it is"
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:13 AM
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1. What a fluncking Criminal.
Bush/Chaney/Chalabi "04"
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:14 AM
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2. "mass refugees.."
Jesus
what an idiot
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:16 AM
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3. "Hey, I got 7% correct - it could have been worse!"
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 12:16 AM by Eye and Monkey
"7%, on the curve, that gets me a B-, right?"
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:16 AM
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4. Hey! as long as the oil is okay, damn it...
...what the hell is everyone pissing and moaning about, ferchrissakes?

:mad:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:18 AM
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5. Bush openly admits he sent thousands of Americans into Iraq without a plan
The 800+ lives lost mean nothing to the imbecile in charge.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:20 AM
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6. "I wish the Iraqi people had overwhelmingly said, 'thank you' ..."
Thank you for the invasion,killing thousands, and of course,the torture! :nuke:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:30 AM
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10. Oh, thank you for not blowing up the oil!
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 01:00 AM by struggle4progress
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 02:57 AM
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17. You Mean You're Torturing Them for Not Saying "Thank You"?!?!?!??
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:23 AM
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7. Geebus, whoever was whispering in his ear during his speeches
must be on vacation...

What a freaking embarrassment this subhuman is-

"Stressing that going to war was a "very difficult decision, Bush said "I don't like war. But I'm the guy who has to decide, whether or not a Saddam Hussein would be a threat to peace. After having tried all diplomacy, war was the last option." The US President said he would work towards peace and freedom in Iraq which would serve as a "great moment of change" in the Middle East."

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:17 AM
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28. Bush would recognize diplomacy...
.. if it bit him on the ass through his green plaid golf pants. For him to asser that HE had exhausted diplomatic efforts with Iraq is just a flat out lie. How are we able to bargain with known terrorists, Libya, and instead bomb the shit out of Iraq at the drop of a hat? Because Ghadafi didn't make Daddy Bush look like an idiot, and lose the election for him. That's why.

When I think of Bush having Saddam's pistol in his office.. his spoil of war, I can only think of Napoleon.. Is Bush short, too?
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:40 AM
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30. "Feels good"
"Very difficult decision," my ass. Bush was gloating on the eve of the invasion. Why doesn't anyone ask him about that?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:24 AM
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8. This is nauseating. What a pig.
eom
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:29 AM
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9. But where are the flowers?
:shrug:
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:35 AM
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11. All is not lost in this conflict. After all, Junior has Saddam's gun.
So, all is forgiven.

:eyes:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:47 AM
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12. what a sick little greedhead... just like his speech on the eve of war:
"Do not set fire to the oil wells!" - he's obsessed with oil.
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DEMVET-USMC Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:54 AM
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13. Well things can always be worse and seem very much to be getting
worse. They can also be one heck of a lot better and will once JFK is our new President. ...Oscar
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:58 AM
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14. The oil. Figures.
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 01:00 AM by JaySherman
Well, he's managed to entangle us in a quagmire where we're losing soldiers at a rate of more than 2 a day, institutional torture is SOP, and there's no exit in the foreseeable future. His little war is bankrupting the U.S. economy. The rest of the planet hates our guts. Terrorism is now a greater threat than ever.

But at least the oil didn't go up in flames!

:grr:

Nice job, George. Now go to sleep and let the grownups handle this.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 01:00 AM
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15. Situations are rarely so bad, that a worse situation can't be imagined
This is hardly an inspiring rallying cry, though. As such, it is an ironic indication of just how bad things really are.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 01:31 AM
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16. Hm, take a look at that sentence....
'thank you for coming. I think they will"

When does George supposed that will be? After all we've "done" for them, maybe we need to drop a few more bombs on 'em. They'll be laying in rubble, waving a white flag. Is that what he's waiting for?

He really is a subhuman beast.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 03:21 AM
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18. Top priority...OIL.
Oil is always mentioned first, WORST nightmare for those ghouls is if the oil is all destroyed. :nopity: GOD, that is what they truly lust after...the fucking oil. :argh: :mad: :puke:
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:05 AM
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19. A great big *KICK*
for the morning crew.

This is sickening.

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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:26 AM
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20. What a Pig!
"A lot of things didn't happen that we thought might happen, the oil production, for example," Bush told Italian television. "We thought that would be blown up, and it would cost the Iraqi citizens a lot of money. It wasn't." "We thought that people would go hungry, or there would be mass refugees - neither of which happened," the US President said."

God forbid his precious OIL might be threatened - no mention of the troops and Iraqis who have died and been maimed from his pathetic "liberation".

"That it would cost the IRAQI CITIZENS a lot of MONEY??? Since when were they in on this get filty rich quick scheme?? No, it just cost Iraqi citizens thousands of deaths and massive destruction of property.

What an asshole - yeah, Pig Boy, the Holocaust could have been a lot worse too (WTF???)
:grr: :grr: :grr:
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:50 AM
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21. this stupid statement reads like a story he is telling to second grade
kids.



Godamm liar--"very difficult decision" my ass. The decision to to war was made in his wildest fantasy of empire, power and greedy acquisitions before he was even selected. I think that for ten years, he and daddy and mummy discussed between them, while having their coffee and reading the paper in bed, how HE, little George, was going to be the next Bush president in the Bush dynasty--which really does not exist, but people keep writing as if it did.

It gets worse and worse--his attempts to FORCE his lies on the way things are and the way things were is absolutly pathetic--it is not even arrogant anymore--it is just plain, abject lying and is pathetic

Now he is sending people into churches to sign up "people of faith" as if these "people of faith" could not be registered anywhere else, because they do not exist anywhere else but inside a church-- no it is being done in the church so the people can either vote for him like god wants them to, or suffer hell in the lake of fire--that is the implication and is a cheap, sleezy way to thumb their nose at our Constitution.

Didn't George take an oath or something to protect and defend this Constitution?

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Shouldn't he be writing a little memo to his campaign manager to lay off the bribery and the intimidation because it violates the Consitution? <sarcasm>


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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:00 AM
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26. well said, Marianne
AMEN
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:12 PM
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42. In his mind, he's surrounded by second-graders!
Good call, Marianne. I thought he was having flashbacks to that Florida classroom -- but now I realize that he's always talked like that. He's always going on about how the American or the Iraqi people "must feel" a certain way.

He reminds me of a particularly exasperating co-worker of mine, who would start off statements with "I need you to feel". Bizarre.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:21 AM
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22. Many people here predicted the outcomes of this illegal invasion

Oddly enough, I don't remember the those he mentions as possible options, with the exception of mass starvation, which wasn't really a probable outcome.

This happens on everything this maladministration touches.

I propose that the framework they're using to project potential outcomes is flawed at the very least, if not completely corrupt.

Completely corrupt.

Yeah, I think that gets it. :evilgrin:
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:27 AM
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23. the president of Low expectations
see? it's not sooo bad.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 07:33 AM
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24. "An' we thought they'd welcome us with open arms (and legs)...."
"But that didn't happen, either..."

"Saddam Loyalists"...I wish he'd stop using that worn-out line.

Look, if a foreign power invaded the US, you bet I'd be out there making them regret they ever THOUGHT about occupying my cornfield. Does THAT make me a "Bush Loyalist"?

Fuck. No.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:46 AM
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25. GWB: "It coulda been worst. We coulda nuked 'em"
them damn ungrateful ragheads.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:12 AM
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27. OMG! at least that OIL was okay! But 800+ troop deaths are okay?
I mean.. what is this man thinking??? Is he out without his handlers? I can't believe he just said that at least the worst hasn't happened, like oil production problems. I guess the families of the dead soldiers are feeling so much better now. what a fucking moran.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:21 AM
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29. But I'm the guy who has to decide,
"But I'm the guy who has to decide, whether or not a Saddam Hussein would be a threat to peace."

I'm the "guy"?

OK, I'm a midwestern rural fuckhead, but come on now. I use that language, but our President?

I'm the "guy"?

I think this is the lowest we've ever reached as a leader of the "free" world.

"guy"

Holy Crap.
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MrBadExample Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:29 PM
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35. Ugh.
Remember when shortly after September 11th, Bush was vowing to get the "folks who did this"?

Folks.

Jesus. "Folks" is all well and good if it's just you talking to your buddies, but when you're the LEADER OF A SUPERPOWER on one of the GRIMMEST OCCASIONS IN RECENT MEMORY, I expect something a little more formal, you fucking hairless ape.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 04:55 PM
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41. Sounds like a line out of "Universal Soldier"
he says it's for the peace of all,
he's the one who must decide,
who's to live and who's to die,
and he never sees the writing on the wall.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:55 AM
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31. We were willing to cause the death of millions; we just got lucky
That's the gist, isn't it?

We only killed 30K Iraqis or so (so far) and caused countless maimings and financial calamities, but we were willing to do much more damage. Ain't we cute?
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:56 AM
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32. I'm embarrassed that he is president.
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:00 PM
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33. Bush: "I don't like war...."
I think what he meant was "I dont like war if I have to be part of the fighting."

AWOL Chimp
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:05 PM
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34. and the part that was bad...
was Clinton's fault.

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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:36 PM
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36. Talk about disingenuous.
"After having tried all diplomacy, war was the last option."

Let's see, what 'diplomacy' did we try.

We demanded he let inspectors in, he complied. He claimed not to have WMD, we said he was lying. Our inspectors found no WMD, we claimed they were being misled. We demanded he produce a list of his WMD, he did. We claimed the list was incomplete, but based that on bad intelligence.

That was it. That was the end of diplomacy. What, precisely, could have Saddam done to satisfy Shrub's demands? IMO, nothing Saddam did would have averted Shrub's desire to invade, which he had held since long before 9-11.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:44 PM
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37. He truly sees himself at the center of the world.

In fact, one might say he has a Messiah complex.

George W. Bush:

"I don't like war. But I'm the guy who has to decide, whether or not a Saddam Hussein would be a threat to peace. After having tried all diplomacy, war was the last option."


Of course, if he asked himself What Would Jesus Do, and answered honestly, I think he'd get a different answer than the war he chose.

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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:47 PM
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38. So now our policy is "hey, it could be worse?"
Good lord.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 01:51 PM
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39. Yes, Including Prison Abuse - We're Not As Bad
as Saddam, and that makes us still the good guys
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 01:58 PM
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40. Translation:
Hey, I could have fucked it up even worse, and I didn't.

What a moron.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 05:13 PM
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43. Wife beater to Judge: "Well, at least I didnt hit her with a stick."
n/t
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