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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:52 PM
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Filmmaker Moore Says He Has Berg Footage (an interview with Berg)
NEW YORK - Filmmaker Michael Moore, whose incendiary new documentary lambastes President Bush's handling of the war, said Thursday that he has footage unused in the film of Nicholas Berg, the American civilian later beheaded in Iraq.

The footage, of an interview with Berg, "is approximately 20 minutes long. We are not releasing it to the media," Moore said in a statement. "It is not in the film. We are dealing privately with the family."

Neither Moore nor his representatives would describe the nature or contents of the interview with Berg, who held staunch pro-war views.

No one answered the phone Thursday at the home of Berg's parents in West Chester, Pa.

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/opinion/8775965.htm
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:55 PM
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1. ain't this interesting
eom
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:23 PM
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17. nevermind
Edited on Thu May-27-04 04:25 PM by Eloriel
misread
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:03 AM
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63. nt
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:57 PM
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2. Moore has a way of getting good footage
From what I hear of this movie, there's a lot of stuff in there that we should have gotten from the news media.

Good for Michael not to exploit this.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:04 PM
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4. But if the dad gives the okay,
which seems quite possible, maybe he'll edit it in for the N.America release.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 09:00 PM
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30. Right, Berg's Dad ripped * a new one
and directly blamed BushCo for his son's death SO helping Moore with his movie would not be surprising. Moore can change his movie up till release date.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:00 PM
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3. Another coincidence
There have been so many coincidences involving Berg, I just have to shake my head in disbelief.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:35 PM
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8. Berg Is Sort Of Like Forrest Gump
showed up in an awful lot of places
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:09 PM
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32. Fascist Gump. n/t
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:08 PM
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5. it would be chilling to hear Berg if he is sharing his pro-war views ....
Edited on Thu May-27-04 03:09 PM by hadrons
knowing what happened to him ... Moore did the right thing by going to the family
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lucky777 Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:14 PM
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6. Why doesn't the mainstream press get this stuff
He seems to get footage that the networks and news shows can't get or won't show.

It just shows how lazy the press is
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:23 PM
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16. my thoughts exactly
If we had a real media, we'd have no need for a Moore film. A REAL media -- you know, the one we had when Clinton was in office -- would have shown Bush just sitting there reading a book about a goat while thousands of Americans were incinerated in the WTC. Instead, we have to wait THREE YEARS for a gutsy filmmaker to string it all together, fight with his distributor to release their grip on it, and have it shown in freaking foreign country before we can READ about it. And who knows how long until we can actually see it!
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:11 AM
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55. 'real media' disappeared abt 1994 or whenever Starr started digging
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 01:31 AM
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45. They don't even want it
Press releases from the white house and footage of the Peterson trial are so much easier to handle than anything that would be construed as investigating into government affairs. Must avoid controversy. Must avoid controversy. :boring:
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:06 AM
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48. the press' job is to cover up
and they do a damn good job
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 06:51 AM
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59. .....but this administration is very nervous right now and rightfully so!
Edited on Sat May-29-04 06:52 AM by 0007
And are starting to make mistakes that the media can't cover up without looking foolish.

Seymour Hersh uncovers what the White House tries to hide.

Check this website out...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3267.htm

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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:18 PM
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7. Moore doing the right thing
Deal with the family and leave everything up to them
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:29 PM
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19. Hope he gives the footage to the family
and let's them decide if they want to release any, all, or none of it.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:18 PM
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34. Isn't it strange how liberals are slandered so much,
yet are so much more moral than the so-called "moral majority".

This is like Larry Flynt refusing to release the video of Jessica Lynch.

Which reminds me, the Flynt book is supposed to be coming out in June. I can hardly wait for this one, Flynt supposedly has 4 sworn affadavits from people about Bush taking that Morgan girl to mexico to have an abortion during the coat-hanger days. He allegedly has an affadavit from the doctor and from one of the girl's friend. One more nail in the coffin.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:42 PM
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9. More here at Salon
May 27, 2004 | Filmmaker Michael Moore filmed an interview with American Nicholas Berg in the course of producing his documentary film "Fahrenheit 9/11" before Berg left for Iraq, where he was taken hostage and killed, Moore confirmed to Salon in a statement Thursday. The 20 minutes of footage does not appear in the final version of "Fahrenheit 911," according to the statement.

Word of the footage reached Salon through a source unaffiliated with Moore or his film "Fahrenheit 9/11," which is reported to feature stark images of U.S. civilians and soldiers grappling with conditions in war-torn Iraq, as well as examining the relationship between President George W. Bush and the bin Laden family. It received the Palme d'Or, the Cannes Film Festival's highest honor, on Saturday.

http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2004/05/27/fahrenheit_911/index.html
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:46 PM
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23. Thanks for the Salon link.
I can't get through on their day pass option (imagine it's very busy), so I'm still wondering how Moore and his group came across Berg before he left for Iraq.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:24 PM
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28. When will the film come out in the States?
From the Salon article:

A source close to "Fahrenheit 9/11" said that a new distributor will be announced shortly, and that the film is expected to be released in theaters during the first week of July, as originally planned

:headbang:
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hayduke1 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 01:34 AM
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46. Those investigating this murder should most definitely want to see this
footage! It will be interesting to see if the authorities investigating this murder request to see the segments and how long it will take them to request a copy. After all, it is an open and active investigation, right?

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:22 PM
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51. Hi hayduke1!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:43 PM
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10. Holy crap this is eerie
The Berg story only continues to get more interesting....
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:44 PM
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11. Just letting the world know
that he's got the goods, must be making Bu$hCo and the OSP guys crap their pants right now.


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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:57 PM
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12. Endless Hubris
I don't know but if I had to guess, I'd venture that Mr. Moore flys pretty far below the admin's radar. Their hubris appears to know no bounds. I seriously doubt whether they deign to consider the doings of a lowly filmmaker (as they probably see him). Lets hope the American release of the film will eventually change that.

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romantico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 03:58 PM
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13. bump
((((((((((((((((kick))))))))))))))))))
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:01 PM
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14. Is that why Jeb
threatened to cut of Disney's tax breaks if they released 9-11?

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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 08:36 PM
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29. You may be right
But if so, there's the wonderful irony that the threat has certainly bounced back to bite them, since all it's really accomplished is a lot of free publicity for the film, and pissing-off some Disney investors.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:08 PM
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15. they freaked out over a stupid Letterman bit
trust me, they're SUPER freaked about this Moore movie.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:28 PM
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18. Bingo! Life insurance. Noticed W stopped talking about finding his killers
Watch all their shills quietly dropping the subject.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 09:15 AM
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61. Yes, I did notice that.
"We will bring these people to justice".

Yes??

Strangely quiet.
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:09 AM
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64. Now that you mention it. It is odd.nt
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:31 PM
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20. My oh my.
I would love to know how MM found Nick Berg.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:05 PM
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27. Best post of the thread
Indeed, how did Mr Moore come across Nick Berg? Worthy of it's own documentary...
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:21 PM
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35. Maybe Nick Berg found Michael Moore? Maybe Nick Berg wasn't pro-bush
...as he has been reported to have been....maybe that's why he died...I've wondered all along about why Nick Berg was there....interesting news though about Michael Moore having footage of Nick....Poor Nick and his family..I hope the truth about his killers comes out some day...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:37 PM
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52. Clears it up doesn't it?
I LOVE MICHEAL MOORE :)
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:31 PM
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21. depending on what the footage does or doesn't show
moore may have put his own life in danger.

never, ever, ever put anything past this administration.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:46 PM
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24. The footage may contain nothing serious. But for the guilty is
"I know what you did last summer"

No, I thimk Moore is safe.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:23 PM
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36. Perhaps, but MM is a smart guy...probably if he was "removed", he'd have
a movie post-humously that would come out and expose them all, including his own murder....
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:48 PM
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40. Not just that......
I 'll bet you a buck he has documents, audio, and video in a safe location to be released upon an untimely demise. It's called insurance.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:19 AM
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42. Yep-MM is safe...Bush Co. might not be so lucky on the PR front....
...I really can't wait to see the film...and also to hear the feedback from the rest of the world when they see it...
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:33 PM
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22. Release the footage.
There is too much that is being kept secret. This isn't footage that has anything to do with the family. Release the footage.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 04:48 PM
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25. How do you know if it has or not anything to do with the family?
For all you know, it may be entirely a message to his parents.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 05:02 PM
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26. Okay. So long as it isn't a message to his parents he had Moore film
for his documentary. :eyes:

So long as it isn't that, then release it.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:26 PM
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37. It's possible it contains impt. info that can help find his killers and...
...releasing it would interfere with finding out who is responsible...If such a thing were true, better not to release it until the truth is ready to come out...all of it....
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:02 PM
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31. Just one more curious chapter in the Berg saga
The footage may not be particularly revealing of anything peculiar anyway (if it was, you would think Moore would make it public), but the unfortunate Berg has now crossed paths with a lot of important figures in the 911/Iraq Invasion saga. He is beginning to seem like a tragic version of one of those people who manage to keep popping up in famous photographs. I haven't seen the movie, but I think Woody Allen did something called Zelig, on this theme.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:14 PM
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33. Agree, there are too many odd "co-inky-dinks" involving Berg...
and, yes, the film was "Zelig"
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:27 PM
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38. Things just keep going
"bump in the night." I tell you everyday brings a new revelation.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:51 PM
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41. A thought just occured to me.......
Perhaps he was one of Moore's "inbeds"
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DoyBoy Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 12:25 AM
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43. If this is true...
it could explain Berg's choice of clothing in the released footage.

this may be out there but, we know he was in what appeared to be US prison wear. But one difference. They appear to be made of a shinier kind of fabric than the standard cotton we normally see (I think most of us who have seen at least the beginning of the tape can attest to that).

Now here's the connecty dots...If, perhaps, it turns out he was connected with Moore in the above manner, he could have had those prison clothes made for him prior to leaving (delibrately made of a different kind of orange fabric to tell them from real one's yet still make the point). He took them to wear for whatever he was actually doing. Perhaps the reason why he was detained in the first place and why he was wearing them in the video. He would have had them on since being arrested.

Any way you look at it it's still a horrible thing. Someone will answer for this...and I think they ain't gonna be of middle eastern persuasion.

....but just a late night thought. Goodnight

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JohnnyFianna1 Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 11:44 PM
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39. This is terribly wrong, there are too many coincedences involving Berg.
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Mace Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 01:01 AM
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44. Indeed
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:17 AM
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47. Kick
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:14 AM
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49. One point
Whatever Berg said in that 20 minute segment was apparently not relevant to Moore's film (since Moore did not use it in the final version). Seems to me that if the footage was intriguing in some way (either very pro or very anti war), Moore would have used it.

If Berg's interview is just an interview with an American worker looking for work in Iraq - I wonder how many other Americans (and others) like Berg are in Iraq.
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TNMOM Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 09:09 AM
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60. Maybe Moore didn't get it until recently.....
When did Moore receive the video????
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:32 AM
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50. VERY interesting.
This just keeps getting stranger and stranger. Time for another terra "alert", it always seems to get the damaging news off the front pages no matter how bogus.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:14 PM
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53. Fuck!! Moore is CIA. I knew it! He's connected to the CIA berg killers
right, tinfoilers? I mean, every tiny bit of info--from gold rings to the order pages read by killers--points to a conspiracy. How huge is it that out of the hundreds of thousands of westerners in Iraq, Berg ends up being interviewed by a major American filmmaker for 20 minutes!!!!!!!!


STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:50 PM
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54. how do you know Berg was killed?
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Algomas Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 02:21 AM
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58. Color me confused but...
Are you suggesting that Berg is pro-Bush and the execution was staged to elicit sympathy for the occupation?

Or are you suggesting that Bushco found out Berg talked to MM and then snuffed him for propaganda objectives?

Or are you suggesting MM is somehow acting under Bush control?
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notbush Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:58 AM
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56. I've never been a fan of Mr. Moore
If he says something Fans like, he's a real journalist with all the facts.
If he tells lies...well, he took a little journalistic creativity ....
He's a VERY RICH fat man that at the very least...streetches the thruth.
He has little or no journalistic credabillity...he hurts the cause.
Flame Away, MM fans......
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notbush Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 02:00 AM
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57. O.K Just Give The Family The Interview.......
Let them decide, if it's relavent.....or does it even exist.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 09:33 AM
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62. And the coincidences just keep on coming
The real question, of course, is whether or not Moore did the interview before or after the beheading.

:headbang:
rocknation
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