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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:15 AM
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Iraqi scientist died at US base - From a massive blow to the head
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040524/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_us_britain&cid=1514&ncid=1473

LONDON (AFP) - An Iraqi scientist reputedly close to Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) died while being held at a US base in Baghdad, a British newspaper reported.


Professor Mohammed al-Izmerly, whose name appeared on a list of 200 people close to the ousted Iraqi dictator, died of "brainstem compression", according to an official diagnosis by US military doctors, The Guardian newspaper said.


But according to Faik Amin Baker, head of the autopsy service at Baghdad hospital, the scientist died from a sudden blow to the back of the head.


"He died from a massive blow to the head. We don't disagree with the coalition's report but it doesn't explain how he got his injuries in the first place," the paper quoted him as saying.

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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:18 AM
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1. "brainstem compression" is one of the ghastliest terms i've ever read
:puke:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:18 AM
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2. "brainstem compression" = blow to back of head...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:18 AM
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3. Truncheon?
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:41 AM
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7. "natural causes"
in Bushese.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:17 AM
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15. Hitler used to use the same terms
Did you know that millions of Jews, also died of "natural causes" such as lungentuberkulose, acute herzwache (heart attack, I believe), and grippe (flu) in the concentration camps?

Sadly, the techniques the Busheviks are using, both to torture and also to lie about the murders, are nothing new.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:21 AM
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4. Guess he wasn't telling them what they wanted to hear
no matter how much they tortured him?

Tell us where the WMD's are?

There are no WMD's.

Tell us where the WMD's are?

There are no WMD's....


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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:23 AM
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5. lie to us or we'll kill you?
I think I am never going to be well again. :sigh:
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:36 AM
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6. I wonder where the rest of the Big Names on cards that turned themselves
in are being held. We never hear a word about them. Does anyone know?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:42 AM
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8. here's a "clue"
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html

To date, we've arrested or otherwise dealt with many key commanders of al Qaeda. They include a man who directed logistics and funding for the September the 11th attacks; the chief of al Qaeda operations in the Persian Gulf, who planned the bombings of our embassies in East Africa and the USS Cole; an al Qaeda operations chief from Southeast Asia; a former director of al Qaeda's training camps in Afghanistan; a key al Qaeda operative in Europe; a major al Qaeda leader in Yemen. All told, more than 3,000 suspected terrorists have been arrested in many countries. Many others have met a different fate. Let's put it this way -- they are no longer a problem to the United States and our friends and allies. (Applause.)
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:06 AM
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11. THIS IMPLICATES BUSH IMO
I am glad you brought out thi9s state of the union passage. I have been thinking about this quote " Let's put it this way -- they are no longer a problem to the United States and our friends and allies. (Applause.)" since hearing about the torture.

If large groups of people connect this DOT, then Bushie must explain just who exactly are no longer problems, and how they got to Not be Problems any more.
tib

(bush prolly uses the torture pictures as viagra... whenever I hear him say things like this, i just know his little bitty pencil dick is very stiff hehe)
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:10 AM
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13. he has said this same
thing many times - and each time I have wondered why everyone else seemed to accept and applaud.

It says a lot about how much he knew and when he knew it.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:19 AM
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16. Yes, Bunnypants* approved the murders
He knew all about it. This line is clear indication. There are other, more obvious pieces of evidence.

What a shame everyone is afraid to prosecute the Imperial Family.

Of course, their character would be assassinated, or like Wellstone, THEY would be assassinated.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:26 AM
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9. MURDER.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:35 AM
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10. you've entered a place
just to the right of the Big Dipper and to the left of your nightmares ... you've secured an Iraqi prisoners' one-way ticket to ... THE TWILIGHT ZONE.

I mean, don't you feel like we're totally in the Twilight Zone? Like this can't really be happening ... it's gotta be a Rod Serling half-hour drama?
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:07 AM
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12. yes twilight zone appropo
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:24 AM
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19. It is important not to lose our bearings. To call murder murder when it
is murder. To continue speaking the truth, even when nearly everyone is lost in lies and responds in anger. This is of utmost importance.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:20 AM
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17. Yes. Undoubtedly it is what decent Germans felt in 1936.
Same thing.

No coincidence, that.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:23 AM
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18. no .. I used to wish
twilight zone would go on and on .. THIS I want OVER, done, finished... out of town, James Brown ...

The head .. it hit itself ..
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:14 AM
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14. Duplicate
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:49 AM
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20. Please discuss here, thanks
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