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Lou_C Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:12 AM
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Legal smoke rooms for schoolkids
Legal smoke rooms for schoolkids

< SUNDAY, MAY 23, 2004 11:58:20 AM >


Russian schools are planning to set up 'smoking centres' where children can smoke without being punished to help prevent fires.

The controversial idea was proposed by firemen in Moscow and will be tried out in a pilot project.

A spate of school fires has been blamed on cigarettes discarded by kids smoking secretly, reports the Echo Moscow radio station. Firemen want the smoking zones to be set up in Russian primary and secondary schools.


Says a fire brigade spokesperson: "As soon as they see a teacher, kids throw cigarettes without extinguishing them." But a headteacher at a Moscow school says: "It's not new that kids smoke, but we want to fight it, not legalise it."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow/692877.cms

I HAVE HEARD EVERYTHING NOW!


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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:40 AM
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1. lol, how stupid.
Is this proof of a generalized dumbing down of the human species???
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:43 AM
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2. Didn't they used to have student smoking areas in American high schools?
Up until the late 1980's.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 03:20 AM
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3. I remember smoking rooms in High School in the 70's up here
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Nothing new there.

what's all the hoopla anyhoo ? :shrug:
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 06:53 AM
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4. They had them in college, we used to go under the stairs in HS
Old people homes also had them and may still. they also had or have(some) rooms for sex.But do not tell the govt or their children.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:22 AM
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12. Cigarette Machine in Student Lounge when I was a Sophmore
Edited on Mon May-24-04 09:23 AM by LeftHander
Jrs and Srs could smoke in student lounge....sophs were not allowed in lounge. Freshman were in Jr. High...

It was even okay to keep your shotgun in your locker. From when you went hunting in the early morning.

Wacky....to think about that...but no one thought is was any kind of risk.

(this was in SOuth Dakota in the 70's)


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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:59 AM
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16. Only allowed outside at Tulsa Edison HS in late 50s. We smoked in
class in college (most classes, not in the few huge auditorium-type ones though) and pretty much anywhere else we wanted...

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:14 AM
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5. We had an fenced in outdoor smoking area in the 70s and 80s
Edited on Mon May-24-04 07:14 AM by htuttle
But you had to get a 'smoking pass'.

(This was in South Eastern Wisconsin)
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:35 AM
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6. Same for us. Lasted a month.
Then the "outcry" became too much and the admin folded. This was in 1973...
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Blecht Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:55 AM
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8. It was legal then
For 16 yr-olds to smoke in Wisconsin -- no big deal.

You could also legally drink while still a high school student if you were born early enough in the calendar year (drinking age was 18).

However, they didn't have a "drinking section" at the schools.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:56 AM
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9. I graduated h.s. in 1996
There were smoking areas in my high school.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:08 AM
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10. We had what was called 'the smokin' ring'.....
....a designated area outside my HS too! :smoke:

:hi:
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:21 AM
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11. Our school never had one
The principal said that it was impossible to enforce the 18 up rule, so no go. He was right, however.


We did have the "bad girls" bathroom, but the vice principal and female teachers were forever monitoring it.

We also had "The Corner", a street corner just off of campus. The police cracked down on that one my junior year (they weren't just smoking cigarettes out there, you know), and the school then closed campus and allowed no one to leave without a pass. That's when all the potheads became speed freaks and kids still smuggled alcohol onto campus.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:40 AM
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13. Yep
I was Class of '75 and a huge issue when I was there was kids wanted a "smoking area" outside where they could smoke without being hassled. Even non-smoking kids wanted it, 'cause it would get the smokers out of the bathrooms. Smoking was a HUGE battle in my school when I was there. The school could have cut smoking in half simply by allowing it in a selected area, thus preventing it from becoming the cause celebre it became.
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:45 AM
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15. I think so. I started hs in the late 80s.
They were banned by then.

I don't see what the big deal is. If you are over 18, you can legally smoke. You should be able to take a smoke break at school if you are of age.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:43 AM
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7. The high school in my neighborhood tolerates an unofficial smoking area
near the football field. Anger from neighbors over crowds of kids gathering in the middle of the street and in front of homes to smoke prompted this policy.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:39 AM
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14. They need to take a page from Bush* and cut down all the trees
You know the healthy forest initiative where we allow the trees to be cut down so we don't have forest fires. Trees that are three hundred years old are now considered fire traps. We will have very healthy forests, just no trees in them.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:06 PM
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17. Russia is cool
We had a smoking lot in school.
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:10 PM
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18. We had a smoking room in school
But only for kids of the legal age (over 16 in Germany). Well, that took away a bit of the smoke cloud in the toilets ...
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