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CShine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:41 PM
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A deepening rift at the Pentagon
WASHINGTON – The Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal is exposing a Pentagon increasingly at war with itself, leading to a crisis of leadership even as tens of thousands of US troops risk their lives battling insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. For months, discord has been growing in Pentagon corridors over the Iraq war, as senior US military officers criticize what they see as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's risky war plan and the lack of a clear political end game. Mr. Rumsfeld, in turn, has often chastised what he sees as hidebound, overly conservative military thinking. Now, the clash between Rumsfeld's push-the-envelope approach and inherent military conservatism is again in full display over allegations that Pentagon policymakers blurred the traditional military chain of command in order to better gather intelligence.

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Among senior US military officers in Iraq and at the Pentagon, there is a feeling that military gains on the battlefield have been consistently undercut by policy miscalculations. These include decisions about the number and types of troops needed to stabilize Iraq after the war, the ongoing lack of a clear political goal for Iraq, as well as the prison abuse scandal that many see as losing the vital fight to win Iraqi "hearts and minds." For example, one US commander, Army Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack Jr., who commanded 82nd Airborne Division troops in Fallujah, told the Washington Post this week that while the US is still winning the counterinsurgency at the tactical level of fighting, it is loosing the war strategically because of a lack of coherent policy. The fact that such a senior commander is speaking out reflects a regret expressed by other high-ranking officers that they did not openly oppose what many earlier saw as poor Pentagon planning for postwar Iraq.

"Shame on us," says one senior Army officer. He says that while Army planners knew of the potential pitfalls, they and their advice were essentially shut out of the postwar planning effort and they were told instead to focus on defeating the Iraqi Army and toppling the Saddam Hussein regime.

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"People don't think they are well led at the highest civilian leadership," says retired Air Force Lt. Col Karen Kwiatowski, who left the Pentagon's policy office just before the war started and has emerged as one of a few from the military who have publicly criticized the Pentagon leadership. "The credibility of Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld is lower than it ever was," she says.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0514/p01s01-usmi.html
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:50 PM
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1. there damn well better be a rift.
the pentagon needs a wakeup call -- a bad one. rumsfeld AND the rest of bushco has bamboozeled, hoodwinked, people who should have known better.
the problem is -- even without bushco the pentagon will still see itself as the vehicle to change the middle east. through it's slavish need and addiction to BE the most overwhelming military in the world -- ever willing to serve it's corporate masters.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:52 PM
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2. If the election is as rigged
as I think it will be, one more unprovoked invasion of another Middle Eastern country early next year may prompt a South American-style scenario in our nation's capital.

Furthermore, it would be perfectly understandable. How do you ask someone to be the last man to die for a mistake?
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DEMVET-USMC Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:01 PM
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3. Lt.Col. Kwiatowski also a part of some group called Special Operations
Project or something like that. While there, she was feeding stories to Col. Hackworth`s " Soldiers for the Truth "Website about how they were pretty much ordered to blame 9-11 attacks on Saddam and invent WMD stories about Saddam. She is a courageous Woman who is doing her part to protect and defend the Constitution of the U.S. AGAINST ALL ENEMIES:FORIEGN AND DOMESTIC ! ! ...Oscar
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:03 PM
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4. Didn't all these Generals and Republicans really lay into Clinton
For not paying enough attention to military leaders in Somalia? I seem to recall hearing everything was Clinton's fault because he didn't send the tanks and troops asked for. No mention of the Sec. of Defence. They went straight for Clinton so I guess we need to go straight for Bush* and bypass Rummy. These Generals continually asked for more equipment and troops but to no avail. It seems to me that we are seeing atrocities as bad or worse than we saw in Somalia yet not a wimper from Conservatives that roasted Clinton.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:04 PM
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5. how many of these guys miss Clinton at the Pentagon?
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