Harsh C.I.A. Methods Cited in Top Qaeda Interrogations

[JPJones]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/13/politics/13DETA.html?hp

[Hand]

1. "Short of torture.."

"In the case of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a high-level detainee who is believed to have helped plan the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, C.I.A. interrogators used graduated levels of force, including a technique known as "water boarding," in which a prisoner is strapped down, forcibly pushed under water and made to believe he might drown.

These techniques were authorized by a set of secret rules for the interrogation of high-level Qaeda prisoners, none known to be housed in Iraq, that were endorsed by the Justice Department and the C.I.A.

...Defenders of the operation said the methods stopped short of torture..."

And I say that's bullshit. Christ, just call it torture, fair and square.

:mad:

[hedda_foil]

2. They used the ducking stool on Al Quaeda??????

Yeah, that's torture alright. There's no other way to call it. What do these psychopaths consider to be torture if not that? the rack? Nah, they're probably using that under the heading of "stress position." And this is the kind of stuff taking place under Herr General Miller, eh?

[Just Me]

9. What do they think is torture? Being drawn & quartered, I guess.

:shrug:

As long as the detainee is still alive, these interrogators apparently believe that is just short of torture.

[atreides1]

8. So

If they float to the top does that mean they're not al Qaeda.

[UpInArms]

3. wonder if they would call it torture if it

was happening to them?

Nah, just "short of torture".

:puke:

[ze_dscherman]

4. Kick

Harsh interrogation? I hope those taking part in "harsh interrogation" and expecially those ordering it will be sent to The Hague.

[maddezmom]

5. FBI directed agents to stay out of many interviews

<<The methods employed by the C.I.A. are so severe that senior officials of the Federal Bureau of Investigation have directed its agents to stay out of many of the interviews of the high-level detainees, counterterrorism officials said. The F.B.I. officials have advised the bureau's director, Robert S. Mueller III, that the interrogation techniques, which would be prohibited in criminal cases, could compromise their agents in future criminal cases, the counterterrorism officials said.

After the attacks of Sept. 11, President Bush signed a series of directives authorizing the C.I.A. to conduct a covert war against Osama bin Laden's Qaeda network. The directives empowered the C.I.A. to kill or capture Qaeda leaders, but it is not clear whether the White House approved the specific rules for the interrogations.

The White House and the C.I.A. declined to comment on the matter.

The C.I.A. detention program for Qaeda leaders is the most secretive component of an extensive regime of detention and interrogation put into place by the United States government after the Sept. 11 attacks and the war in Afghanistan that includes the detention facilities run by the military in Iraq and Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.>>

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Bush claims shock over abuse, yet authorized it for GITMO...hmmm

[ILeft]

6. Could they find out who was at Cheney's energy task force meetings?

That information could be vital in the war on terror.

[0007]

7. As previewed by Drudge? WTF!!

You mean Drudge give legitimacy to this New York Times article?

Your kidding of course?