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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:07 PM
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Berg worked at night on a Abu Ghraib tower
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/133/world/Questions_surround_young_Ameri:.shtml

Questions surround young American shown decapitated in video
By Robert H. Reid, Associated Press, 5/12/2004 17:09

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) The young American decapitated on a videotape posted by an al-Qaida-linked Web site was never in U.S. custody despite claims to the contrary by his family, U.S. authorities said Wednesday.

* * *

Berg was inspecting communications facilities, some of which were destroyed in the war or by looters.

During his time in Iraq, he struggled with the Arabic language and worked at night on a tower in Abu Ghraib, a site of repeated attacks on U.S. convoys and the location of the notorious prison where U.S. soldiers abused Iraqi inmates.

His father, Michael Berg, told the AP that Michael's sister, now dead, married an Iraqi man named Mudafer, who became close to Nicholas. In one of the e-mails, Nicholas Berg describes going to the northern city of Mosul, where he introduced himself to Mudafer's brother, identified as Moffak Mustaffa.

''We got along splendidly,'' Berg wrote. ''We spent a few hours and I helped him establish an e-mail account.''

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:09 PM
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1. we're getting jerked around
WTF is all this they're asking us to swallow?

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/133/world/Questions_surround_young_Ameri:.shtml

<snip>

Senor referred questions about the reason for Berg's detention to the Iraqi police.

In Mosul, however, police told the AP they had no knowledge of the Berg case. Police official Safwan Talal said the only American arrested there in recent months was a woman who was released soon afterward.

Since Iraq remains under U.S. military occupation, it seems unlikely that the Iraqi police would have held Berg, or any other American, for such a length of time without at least the tacit approval of U.S. authorities.

''The Iraqi police do not tell the FBI what to do, the FBI tells the Iraqi police what to do,'' Michael Berg told the AP. ''Who do they think they're kidding?''

more...

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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:14 PM
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4. the very fact that it's become a (the?) story other than the beheading...
lends credence to the theory that there's something else they're not telling us. between the fbi and the parents, i would trust the parents more. that's pretty much a no brainer.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:16 PM
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5. no shit
I have no idea what's going on, but one thing I know for sure is it's NOT what they're telling us. One, it makes no sense, and two, they constantly lie.





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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:10 PM
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2. Jan 18the email- says he was awarded a contract
<<<However, in a Jan. 18 e-mail, Berg said his company had been announced as an approved subcontractor for a broadcast consortium awarded a contract for the U.S.-controlled Iraqi Media Network.

''Practically, this means we should be involved with quite a bit of tower work as part of the reconstruction, repair and new construction of the Iraqi Media Network,'' he wrote, referring to the network as ''something like NPR in the U.S.''

It was unclear whether the contract was revoked.>>>

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:18 PM
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8. wonder if it was a bribe so he wouldn't talk about what he saw at
Abu Ghraib.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:14 PM
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3. What did Nick know?
Worked at Abu Ghraib at night ... at the same time as the torture shift. Here's a young American kid, far from home, around the age as the American kids stationed there.

Nick saw something. I'll double-damned guarantee it. He SAW something.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:17 PM
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6. and how many email communications home did he send?
bet that's why the FBI showed up at his parents house a few times...to get info off the computer. This is just beginning.
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:22 PM
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13. Suppose he did, and he was being turned into a diversion...
...but would MI (or whoever) really screw up time codes?

The decapitation sequence begins at OSTC 2:44:12. Then it immediately jumps to 13:45:47. If we trust the OSTC, the decapitation sequence didn't occur cosequently. The difficulty of the decapitation would be consistent with the onset of rigor mortis.

You know, there'd be a lot fewer conspiracies if people paid attention to details. Then actual psyops would be indistinguishable from actual events.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:17 PM
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7. Sister married to Iraqi? Sister dead?
There's more hee than we're hearing. Isn't it odd that a jewish girl married an Iraqi (Arab)? She's dead....how'd she die? Where's the widower? Something smells here.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:20 PM
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9. it was his father's sister
The elder Berg's late sister was apparently married to an Iraqi.
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:28 PM
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16. You honestly believe that there are no Moslem/Jewish couples?
Edited on Wed May-12-04 05:29 PM by Ruby Romaine
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:20 PM
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10. This is interesting.
Edited on Wed May-12-04 05:21 PM by mzmolly
"Michael Berg said his son refused a U.S. offer in early April to board an outbound charter jet because he believed travel to the airport was too dangerous. American soldiers refer to the airport highway as ''RPG Alley'' because of frequent attacks by insurgents firing rocket-propelled grenades.

According to the State Department, Berg told an American diplomat in Baghdad that he preferred to travel on his own to Kuwait.

''At that time, the U.S. consular officer extended an offer to assist Mr. Berg to depart Iraq by plane to Jordan,'' said State Department spokeswoman Kelly Shannon. ''We'd already discussed that possibility with his family, and we mentioned that to him, obviously, when we talked to him on the 10th."


I wonder why he decided to go it alone?

There are so many unanswered questions.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:23 PM
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14. perhaps he didn't trust the gov't for some reason??
:shrug:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:25 PM
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15. Maybe this is just damage control
How are we to know the government ever extended an offer to assist him. The family never mentioned that, and Berg will never be able to say.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:43 PM
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18. Actually Michael Berg is his father, and he claims this. But, I agree
with Maddiesmom that Berg likely did not trust the Gov. - perhaps he was on to the fact that *something* was up?
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:21 PM
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11. Not sure if this was posted yet, but seems like A LOT is missing
from this story
On Buzz Flash
Beheaded Man's Firm Was on Right-Wing Enemies List
Beheaded Man's Firm
Was On Right-Wing
'Enemies' List

http://www.breakfornews.com/NickBergEnemiesList.htm
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:37 PM
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17. Oh my, that is a must read!
"Others have noted the too-white hands and military at-ease stance of the hooded captors in the video."

I noticed the *stance* as well.

This shit keeps getting deeper and deeper.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 05:22 PM
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12. Little, by little, drip by drip. It will all come out.
To those who have been charged with conspriacy theorizing...keep it up. We've been right more than we have been wrong.
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19. duplicate
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