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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:35 PM
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FBI Saw Berg During Iraq Police Detention
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5121419

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The FBI saw Nick Berg, the American civilian beheaded in Iraq, three times while he was being detained by Iraqi police, the U.S.-led occupation authority said Wednesday.


An Islamist Web site Tuesday carried a video clip of Berg's beheading, with a statement saying a group linked to al Qaeda carried it out in revenge for the abuse of Iraqis by U.S. troops.

Dan Senor, spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad, said Berg had not been in U.S. custody before or after his arrest by Iraqi police on March 24.

"My understanding is that they suspected that he was engaged in suspicious activity," Senor told a news conference.

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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:44 PM
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1. Uhhh, what?
"Brigadier-General Mark Kimmitt, the U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, said U.S. military police had seen Berg during his detention to make sure he was being fed and treated properly."

So, they couldn't get this guy out of Iraqi police custody and send him home?!?! What the fuck is going on here?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:48 PM
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3. and apparently, the Iraqis gave him a Gitmo-orange jumpsuit
which he then wore for what, a month, before getting captured by "al qaeda"?

the problem with our current leaders is, the more detail they give, the more "human interest" in the stories, the less likely that any of it is true. There is certainly more to this than just the standard story...

meanwhile a son is dead and his family is devastated :evilfrown:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:49 PM
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4. ITS ANOTHER COVER UP
I'M Recovering my tinfoil card board Pyramid I wear to predict the length of hair on a caterpillar's back.

And WTF (what the fuck) is the FBI doing in an IRAQI PRISON in the middle of the War Anyway??????????????????? Who is paying them WHY?????????????????
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:46 PM
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2. drip, drip, drip
I think the FBI is about to pay Bushco back for all the blame that has been cast on it.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:50 PM
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5. Can we say "plausible deniability"
http://www.fpif.org/briefs/vol3/v3n20hri_body.html
Human Rights and Intelligence Reform

Volume 3, Number 20
July 1998

by Carlos Salinas, Amnesty International
Editors: Tom Barry (IRC) and Martha Honey (IPS)
Key Points

* International law prohibits extrajudicial killings, "disappearances," torture, and ill-treatment under any circumstances, but these are frequent in the intelligence arena.
* The CIA is only one of many components of the vast U.S. intelligence community, which has an annual budget of more than $26 billion.
* Secrecy around intelligence activity has resulted in the public’s ignorance about the magnitude and type of intelligence operations and has prevented meaningful participation in this area of government.

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has long been associated with the overthrow of governments and the installation of bloody military regimes. Examples include the unseating of Mossadegh in Iran in 1953, the overthrow of Guatemalan President Arbenz in 1954, the failed invasion of Cuba in 1961, and the toppling of Chilean President Allende in 1973. The overthrow of governments is only one cause for notoriety. Other factors include: the creation, training, and funding of foreign armies and insurgents such as the Laotian Hmong during the 1960s and the Nicaraguan contras and Afghani mujahideen during the 1980s; assassination attempts of foreign leaders such as Cuba’s Fidel Castro; giving LSD to unsuspecting U.S. citizens; and other "dirty tricks." There is a vast array of international legal instruments, including the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Geneva Conventions, that prohibit extrajudicial executions, "disappearances," torture, and ill-treatment in any circumstance. Yet these violent overthrows and the operations of CIA-associated armed groups routinely involve such crimes.

The CIA is just one of many components of the U.S. intelligence community, which has an annual budget of more than $26 billion (just disclosed in 1997, due to a lawsuit). Composed of a vast array of interlocking agencies, the complexity of this community can hardly be summarized in an organizational chart. There are, first of all, about a dozen so-called "national" intelligence agencies, the foremost including: the CIA, charged with intelligence analysis, secret human intelligence gathering, and covert action; the Defense Intelligence Agency, which collects and produces intelligence at the Pentagon; the National Security Agency, tasked with obtaining signals intelligence (e.g. electronic eavesdropping) as well as breaking and creating codes; and the National Reconnaissance Office, which manages satellite collections. In addition, national intelligence is produced by components of each of the military branches; by small offices in the Departments of State, Energy, and Treasury; and by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Then there is "joint military intelligence," which includes numerous programs and agencies designed to provide intelligence for defense-wide military requirements. Finally, there is "tactical" intelligence, comprising hundreds of programs in various agencies that are intended to provide intelligence support to military commanders on the battlefield.

This multifaceted intelligence network gathers information about topics or human "targets," often without the knowledge of the target and managed so that the target remains unaware. This is especially the case with signals intelligence such as electronic eavesdropping. In other cases, intelligence is gathered directly from foreign officials or other individuals who have agreed to provide the human intelligence information in exchange for financial or other compensation. Information is also obtained and exchanged formally through liaison relationships with foreign intelligence agencies.

Covert action is yet another intelligence operation. Not limited to gathering information, a covert action is any operation in which the hand of the U.S. is to remain hidden. A key concept for such actions is that of plausible deniability—the ability of the president to disavow any U.S. knowledge of involvement in the action. The legal basis for covert actions is derived from the National Security Act of 1947, which states that as part of its role the agency will perform "other functions and duties related to intelligence…"
(snip)

Check this picture, can you find guys this tubby in the country side of Iraq?



http://www.informationclearinghouse.info
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:52 PM
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6. Don, basically same story here in this thread
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