Report: Chechen President Killed in Blast

[bluestateguy]

www.foxnews.com

[fearnobush]

1. No Fox.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. Sounds like he's only injured not killed

even from your link:

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=507207§ion=news
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Chechnya's President Akhmad Kadyrov has been injured in a blast at a stadium, which Russia's defence ministry has blamed on Chechen separatists.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119394,00.html

ROSTOV-ON-DON, Russia — A land mine exploded during Victory Day (search) celebrations Sunday in a stadium in the Chechen capital, Grozny, injuring 10 people including Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov (search), an emergency official said.

[Bluebear]

3. Dead

MOSCOW - Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov died Sunday after an explosion tore through a stadium where he was attending a Victory Day celebration, the Interfax news agency reported, citing Interior Ministry sources.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040509/ap_on_re_eu/russia_explosion&cid=518&ncid=716

[VolcanoJen]

4. So, the president of Chechnya has been assassinated.

It's going to be quite a week.

Not sure about the facts surrounding this story... I can't find much mention of the president besides his injuries. Gen. Valery Baranov has also been injured.

More in this LBN thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x542026

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Folks given the revelations of last week

we will see more of this... and we may be seeing the expansion of the war. (And yes this may be just more Chechen Separatists just going after the governemt)

What I am saying is... we may be seeing something far lasrger than we can think off... and I mean what some of the idiots wanted, WW III.

[Aidoneus]

26. I doubt that this is tied much to Iraq

An unbroken line of Chechen resistance predates the existance of "Iraq" itself. This is more likely the culmination of the existing tendencies on the ground than being tied to the tip'o-the-iceberg reports of the torture in the concentration camps in occupied Iraq.

Kadyrov is somewhat akin to Chalabi. He sides with the invader to enrich his dictatorial power, even though his new friends from the north have murdered so many thousands of his countrymen and have since their first arrival to the area. His son commands pro-Russian death squads that kidnap, harass, torture, and execute indescriminately, mostly completely innocent civilians, alongside the "cleansing" operations of the invaders' forces. In the eyes of the Chechen resistance, there iswas no greater "Walking Bullseye" than he, aside from the highest apparatus of the Russian military and gov't.

The occupyers of Iraq may, on the other hand, have a thing or two to learn from the Russian occupation in Chechnya, particularly the tortures and executions carried out at Chechnya's "Abu Ghurayb" at Khankala and all over the small nation. They may also learn from the failures, which will be repeated.

[nolabels]

31. Well you can now use PAST tense here, like " he sided"

Just thought you might want a little helper on keeping the story line straight, thanks for info on why.

[Aidoneus]

30. A thought that should've entered my head sooner

This might be in response to the killing of Abu Walid a couple weeks ago, as being made a greater priority beyond the "Walking Bullseye" status Kadyrov enjoyed in general.

[htuttle]

5. BBC: Leaders caught in Chechnya blast

An explosion in the Russian republic of Chechnya has killed and injured a number of people, reports say.

(snip)

A spokesman for Russia's emergency situations ministry said a landmine had exploded in a VIP seating area.

Interfax news agency says the commander of Russian troops in Chechnya, Gen Valery Baranov, and the pro-Moscow leader Akhmad Kadyrov were killed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3697715.stm

[VolcanoJen]

6. The Scotsman confirms: Chechen President Kadyrov is DEAD.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2899116

Chechen president Akhmad Kadyrov was killed today after an explosion tore through a stadium where he was attending a Victory Day celebration.

At least 25 people were also wounded in the blast, including senior military official Colonel General Valery Baranov, head of the Joint Army Command of the North Caucasus.

The explosion was caused by a landmine planted under VIP seats at the Dynamo stadium in the capital Grozny, officials said.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

8. Caught them all..15 minutes ago both said injured

There's more details in the Reuters story above.

[Dookus]

9. CNN now reporting that there are conflicting reports....

they're not saying for sure if he's dead or not.

[VolcanoJen]

11. He looked pretty dead in the video they just showed.

Absolutely horrible. Dear God... the video of the president is just god-awful... very, very graphic...

[Aidoneus]

24. His passing is not horrible

The sight of him may have been, but there is much he had to account for..

[saigon68]

40. DEAD IS DEAD

He looked dead to me

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. update from CNN

it is running on national...

They did show Khadirov on the screen, putting my medical training hat on, he was at the very least unconsious and the facial injuries indicate a possible head injury, a serious one, assuming he is still alive

President Khadirov may be dead... CNN has no confirmation, elections are a problem as well as an embarrasment

Oh and the head of all Russian Land Forces is in critical condition, or may be dead, this is the CO for all forces in the Caucases, this is a General, and a high ranking one... not good if you are President Putin.

Oh and the damage is consistent with an upwards blast

[Occulus]

36. and there was a report a day or two ago in LBN I think

talking about how the Russians are "desperately" trying to avoid conscription. Is this what will push them over the top, and if they do, will our "leaders" use it as an example?

[VolcanoJen]

12. CNN Confirms that President and General Killed in Blast

Just confirmed on CNN-International. The information came from the Interior Ministry.

Most recent update, from Xinuha:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-05/09/content_1459062.htm

Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov and a top Russian general were killed in a powerful blast in a stadium in the republic's capital Grozny on Sunday.

The blast occurred underneath a VIP-seating area in the Dynamo stadium during a ceremony marking Russia's 59th anniversary of victory over Nazi Germany in World War II.

Kadyrov and General Valery Baranov, head of the Joint Army Command of the North Caucasus, were killed at the scene of the blast. They died after the explosion tore through the stadium where the president was attending a Victory Day celebration.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Ok this is how seruos this is

The President and the Theater commander were killed

New elections (if you can call them that way) will have to be called

The Army will need a new CO, that is easy the deputy has taken commmand, but... on the civilian side, they are NOW in the midts of a
Constitutional Crisis, and this is no less on the aniversary of the victory day of the Great Patriotic War... this is no coincidence....

Think of the message, this was a great victory against the fascists...

Ah and CNN National is still running Carly Simmon, thought you'd like to know

:-)

[VolcanoJen]

16. Your insights have been invaluable, nadin.

Please keep it up, would you? I'm really getting an education over here. :-)

Thank you,
Jennifer

p.s. If your cable carries CNN-Financial, they air the CNN-International feed on the weekends... I'm watching it now (although they've gone to commercial).

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Nope, I am just so ammused by this

going in a second to Yahoo... to ahem read the wires...

[Aidoneus]

28. I don't see what a new so-called "election" can do to help their position

The figure of Kadyrov was built up over time, through much violence and enlistment of collaborators to serve under him, and not one that is easily replaced. Maybe his Uday-like son, Ramzan, but this was a major blow against the entire apparatus of the puppet "government"; Russian bombs and Ramzan's death squads cannot repair the damage struck by this blow.

"President" Kadyrov and the Commander of the Armed Forces in the North Caucasus presided over and carried out great crimes and atrocities, exceeding even those that Chalabi and US occupation officials (to make a sowewhat comperable analogy) in Iraq now command.

To speak of messages... Of course the defeat of the Nazis, largely due to the Red Army victories on the Eastern Front, is a great occasion to celebrate, but in context there is not much a reason for Chechens to celebrate it any more than the Cherokee here have to celebrate Columbus Day. On the first "Victory Day", Chechen members of the Red Army--proportionately the highest recipient of awards of any of the nations within the Russian state at the time--returned to find their entire nation completely erased, somewhat like what the vanquished Nazi regime had done to people in Europe. Half of the Chechen people died on this "Trail Of Tears" style of deportation.

To stage a military parade in an invaded/occupied land is a message in itself.

It should appear as obvious, but it should be known that my views on the subject are very biased, and that should perhaps be taken into account. How often does somebody say that to preface themselves?! :)

[annagull]

13. and some wonder about the fallout

I am sorry for the people of Chechnia.

[Aidoneus]

25. the Chechen people have faced many tragedies; this is not one of them

Though it is most unfortunate that others died in this, a great burden has been lifted from the shoulders of the Chechen people with Kadyrov's passing. His son Ramzan, a Chechen Uday that commands the pro-Russian death squads, barely escaped an attempt on his life a month or two back.

[Dover]

15. NOPE.......the Chechen Government says reports are wrong. He's ALIVE.

MOSCOW (Reuters) - The head of the pro-Moscow Chechen administration on Sunday denied reports that regional president Akhmad Kadyrov and other top officials had been killed in a blast at a stadium.
"According to my information, Akhmad Kadyrov received injuries of moderate seriousness, but his life is not in danger," said Ziad Sabsabi, head of the Chechen administration, told Itar-Tass news agency.

Separately, Tass also quoted Chechen officials as saying that the general in charge of Russian troops in Chechnya, Valery Baranov who had also been earlier reported killed, was being operated on for his injuries.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ULLUXQUA5AEVICRBAE0CFFA?type=worldNews&storyID=5081537

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Ok either he is alive or

remember where Putin came from... KGB, he was a Colonel in the KGB

You think he has no clue how important it is to keep those two "alive" until tomorrow, if they are dead?

Wouod not be the first time that the Ruskies delayed a dead for
ahem, the good of the nation. Putin is definitely NOT above that
one.

So in other words, stay tuned.

Speaking of posibly dead leaders, anybody has heard a thing about
our friendly North Korean boy? Taipei reported that he has been missing since that train explosion... and I did not hear of his usual
May First harangue. Oh and the report is a couple days old...

[0rganism]

20. They put him in a box with Schrodinger's Cat

He's in an indeterminite quantum state until someone opens it to verify.

SO DON'T OPEN THE BOX!

[0rganism]

19. Impossible! The world is a safer place with Saddam gone!

A president told me so.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Nope he is dead,

AP sticking to it


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=732&e=1&u=/ap/20040509/ap_on_re_eu/russia_explosion

By the way, the photo of the President reminds me, to a point, of Sadat...

on edit the reuters story is older and dateline is Moscow, with the Chechen office

The AP Story is coming from Rostov on the Don... closer to Chechnya, if not in there...

I suspect the Chechen office tried to punt until tomorrow... reading tea leaves, from what this looks like, may become a full time job for Russia... Putin had to aprove... and did not work... DAMN free press...

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. CNN and AP stickign to their guns, they are dead

but Reuters and Tass say they are still alive... and deny the report from Interfax


Ok smoke and mirrors, this is a classic and old style KGB operation

Expect the Rusian Army to be ordered into offensive operations before the day is out, that much Putin did promise.

Time stamp this at 03;30 PST

[maddezmom]

23. watching BBC : reporting Putin confims death

[Aidoneus]

27. Kadyrov was personally targetted in this

I don't know if this is contained in the links pasted, but I received this in an email. It is assumed to have been an explosive placed under the VIP section in advance--Kadyrov's seat, directly targetting him. It was powerful enough to hit others, with some 30 people reported dead at this time. It is unknown as yet if they are all Russian military & collaborators, or if there are instead any innocent casualties.

Putin declares revenge again, yet that has proved itself to only mean systematic kidnapping and torture of Chechen citizens without any end to the resistance against the invasion and occupation. That must ring hollow to the Russian people by now, but his loyalists controls most of the media and political apparatus.

[macman52402]

29. Baker Question

Hate to dawn the tinfoil my first post.

I believe I saw here a post referring to Jim Baker
in the region not to long ago, brokering something.

[Stockholm]

32. President?

I guess that depends on who you ask....

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

33. kick

[Moderator]

34. kick

..

[fryguy]

35. scary moment caught on film

People run for cover, moments after the stadium blast.

Appears to have been a well planned out attack:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/05/09/grozy.blast/index.html

<snip>

A spokesman for the Chechen Interior Ministry said that the bomb may have been buried in concrete as many as three months ago while the stadium was undergoing a renovation.

<more>

[dArKeR]

37. (CBS). Terrorism down just like the 'economic recovery is next quarter'

which ALL MEDIA WHORES have been saying on TV for 3.5 years. Who holds the Media Whores accountable? RICO!


Blast Kills Chechen President
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/16/world/main606614.shtml

[Mattforclark]

38. I guess Vladimir will have to find himself a new puppet

Puppet = high risk job. I wouldn't want to be his puppet.

[Aidoneus]

39. shameless hypocrites in the EU send the Butcher of Grozny their tears

From a Yahoogroup on Chechnya that I read from:

Ananova
(no dateline)
EU condemns Chechnya attack

The European Union has condemned the "terrorist" bombing in Chechnya that killed Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov and more than 20 others.

"I condemn the terrorist attack committed in Grozny in which president Kadyrov was killed," said Javier Solana, the EU's foreign and security policy representative.

He said he also sent a message of "regrets and sympathy" to Russian President Vladimir Putin and condolences to the families of the victims. (*)

--snip--

comment from the poster here:
* I can only repeat myself: When has any European top diplomat ever sent condolences to the victims of the Nazi-style horror spread in Chechnya by the Yeltsin and Putin regimes and their local quislings?
It would have been right to send condolences to the families of the
innocent victims of the explosion, including the unfortunate journalist. But by sending them to Putin and expressing "sympathy" for the exterminators of more than 200,000 people, Solana and his colleagues are once again openly assuming the role of accomplices of the mass murderers. This is exactly the complete absence of morals among the European "elite", which Ahmed Zakayev has been denouncing in his recent statements. And let me add that they are revealing an enormous degree of stupidity as well. Where do these supporters of the bloodiest regime in Europe since the times of the Nazis believe their policy is going to take them? N.S.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chechnya-sl/message/37700

[ze_dscherman]

42. My central heating runs on russian natural gas

that's why

[Chicago Democrat]

41. UnBelievably Dramatic Assasination!

of Moscows hardline puppet in Chechnya, which is just LIKE IRAQ in maybe 6 years.

I am really scared for the people of Chechnya, boy is Putin going to run amok.

Folks, this is what we can expect in Iraq until we are totally out of there. Negroponte must really be looking forward to his new job. I really hope he doesn't get blown up. This is getting bad out there. World War III is going to suck big time.

[dArKeR]

43. Picture of assassinated President Kadyrov

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/photo/2004/05/10/2003131260

[JohnLocke]

44. Kick (nt).