Lieberman says U.S. needs to stay in Iraq

[Moloch]

NORWICH -- The United States needs to maintain commitments in Iraq to prevent insurgents who want to stop the "democratization" of the nation, said Sen. Joseph Lieberman Monday

"There's a lot on the line in this," Lieberman told the Norwich Bulletin editorial board Monday afternoon. "They want to stop us from helping the Iraqis to form a stable, democratizing, modernizing country in the middle of the Arab and Islamic world. And that's the great battle we have."

The Democratic senator spoke to the board for about 40 minutes on a number of different topics, from prescription drug coverage to his recent run for president. But he answered questions on the war in Iraq at length, saying the United States should address what he called "an obvious security crisis" with additional troops and an internationalized security force. But having spoken to ambassadors and representatives from NATO countries, he was uncertain of a timetable.

"They're not ready to come in," Lieberman said. "I mean, I don't know that anyone can convince them to come in right now. I saw the French ambassador awhile ago, and he said, look, if the United Nations adopts a resolution around June 30, we will send in a considerable number of gendarmes to train the Iraqis' domestic security forces. Well, that's quite helpful. It should be. But that's not troops on the ground."

Lieberman says U.S. needs to stay in Iraq

[arcane1]

1. what a surprise...

not

:puke:

[PaDUer]

23. The repukes

must love holy joe! Let HIM and Hadassah and family go to the front of the line w/ the freeps.

[The Zanti Regent]

45. Dear Conneticut:

Please impeach Rowaland ASAP and install Holy Joe as your governor so he will finally shut up and do something constructive!

[0007]

2. Won't this prick ever shut the fuck up?

Goddamnit! Bring the troops home while their still alive.

[saigon68]

16. It won't be his family fighting and dying

I knew I didn't like him for some reason. This may be it.

[Skittles]

3. he has a lot of nerve calling himself a Democrat

ugh

[dolstein]

15. You must feel the same way about John Kerry, right?

After all, Kerry also believes the United States should stick it out in Iraq.

[Skittles]

28. there is no f***ing way in HELL

I would put Kerry in the same league as LIEBERMAN.

It's not just Iraq it's EVERYTHING. Joe is practically a BUSH WHORE.

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. So pick up a gun and go Lieberman.

No one is stopping you. A leader of men, you're not.

[NNN0LHI]

5. Good. Send Lieberman the fuck over there. Zel too n/t

[xultar]

6. I thought we got rid of Uncle Joe?

[Tellurian]

7. Lieberman should lead the charge on the ground himself..

so easy to tell others to die for you, when you're convictions fall far short of valor.

Remember when you told Al if he fought the outcome of the 00' election "there will be blood in the streets?" Pooh on you, Holy Joe-

[brokensymmetry]

8. Stay? But at what cost?

This is bankrupting us financially. Morally too. There are a great many fine young people getting killed - and far more being permanently maimed.

And for what? :shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

Hey Joe

some free clues YOU may understand:

1.- Sabra and Shatila

2.- Unilateral Withdrawal from Lebanon

This is, to a point, a similar situation

I knew you may understand it, since the MORE AMERICAN version, May Lai, and Vietnam seems to escape you

[Ganja Ninja]

9. So I guess Joe wants to ...

bring back the draft and send in another 200,000 men not to mention spend a half a trillion dollars more on this fiasco.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Sadly we may need a draft

to repair the damage Bush has done to the military

But that is a while different ball of wax...

Still I wondder if Joe would mind sending one of his flesh and
blood down to the urban jungle of Baghdad... then I will truly
believe he believes in this crap

[scope]

10. My thoughts...

Lieberman would be just as bad if not worse then Ashcroft in position of real authority. He hates anything that has to do with privacy or free speech.

[Solly Mack]

11. Remember to lead by example, Joe. (GO)

Hey, I'll even send ya care packages.

[Demonaut]

12. f*ck lieberman, thank god he's not running anymore

yada yada yada, i hope he feels safer

[dolstein]

17. But Kerry is, and he's saying the same thing

Sorry, but if you want a candidate who supports a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, you'll have to vote for Nader.

[Demonaut]

18. no I still think we have to fix what we broke, I just cant stand lieberman

we need the UN and drop our overall control.

[dolstein]

14. So Lieberman and Kerry are in agreement

The United States shouldn't cut and run.

[Jim Sagle]

19. Actually Kerry's name is John. And their positions aren't really the same,

either. Joe wants to stay "as long as it takes" while John intends to stay until we can shift the load to the UN.

[dolstein]

25. Bullsh*t -- Lieberman has been calling for greater UN

involvement for over a year. He's called for shifting responsibility for the reconstruction of Iraq to the UN. And while he wants the forces in Iraq to remain under US or NATO control, that's the same thing Kerry is saying. John Kerry is not calling for the withdrawal of US troops and is not seeking to place US troops under UN control. Perhaps you have mistaken John Kerry for Dennis Kucinich.

[Jim Sagle]

27. No, you may have mistaken John Kerry for Joe Lieberman.

Kerry may not want US forces under UN control, but he definitely wants Iraq under UN control.

[dolstein]

29. Can you handle the truth? Here's an excerpt

from a speech Lieberman gave in October of 2003:

<<In February I called for Iraq's civilian government after Saddam, this is February before the war started, to be run not by an American bureaucrat, but by an international administrator, preferably one from an Arab country, and one month ago I again called for the orderly transition, then I said within 60 days, of governance in Iraq from American hands to international hands, and then quickly to Iraqi hands. I repeat that call today. The longer we postpone this, the more hollow will sound our assertion that we are liberators and not occupiers, and the more difficult it will be for us to convince other nations to share the responsibility of peacekeeping, and rebuilding in Iraq.>>

http://www.vote-smart.org/speech_detail.php?speech_id=M000021536&keyword=IRAQ+UN&phrase=&contain=

Sorry, but your suggestion that Lieberman wants the US to be in control of Iraq is flat-out wrong. It is directly contrary to statements Lieberman has been making since BEFORE the war. So honestly, what is your problem?

[Jim Sagle]

31. Maybe I've just had a bellyful of Jagoff Joe.

He's a whining, snivelling, hangdog Mike "Ain't Got no Guts" Dukakis wannabe - a half-Democrat, half-Republican political morphodite.

And that's on a GOOD day. On a bad day, he's a Northern Zellout Miller. Fuck'm.

[dolstein]

36. Well, the things you say about Joe

aren't half as bad as the things I could say about the tofu eating, flag burning, Palestinian-terrorist loving, Marx reading, Nader apologist misanthropes who comprise the Lieberman lynch mob. The fact is, the people who are trashing Lieberman are the spritual descendents of the people who back in 1968 were trashing Hubert Humphrey, one of the greatest liberals of the 20th century. Frankly, these people have done at least as much to destroy liberalism and the great New Deal coalition assembled by Franklin Roosevelt as anything the Republicans have done. They may call themselves liberals. They may even call themselves Democrats. But time and time again, their actions prove otherwise.

[Jim Sagle]

41. I may be part of the Lieberman lynch mob. And I don't fit your description

AT ALL.

Oversimplification - it's not just for Republicans anymore.

[dolstein]

42. And Lieberman doesn't fit your description

So stop lecturing me about the evils of oversimplication.

[Jim Sagle]

44. Oh yes he does.

[Classical_Liberal]

35. Your right Kerry is no different from Lieberman

.

[David__77]

32. You are correct.

However, Kerry has not been nearly so strident with this position, and he has been more apt to criticize the existing set-up. This gives me hope that he is more amenable to rethinking his position.

[bluestateguy]

20. Libberman

If given a choice bewtween Bush and the Other Guy Who Says He Supports Bush, the people will choose Bush every time.

[sniffa]

21. us says Liebermann is irreLevent

[PROGRESSIVE1]

22. Has LIEberman ever served??? NO!!!

:mad:

[truebrit71]

24. Shut up you f*cking DINO pr*ck!!!

...you're almost as bad as that other DINO Zell Miller....You're a disgrace to your party and your country....

[cliss]

26. Every time I jump on one of these threads,

I always get to read the 'best' the DU has to offer in terms of sarcasm, black humor.

OK, so "Joe the Jester" says it's a "great battle we have". I wonder what kind of battle he's referring to here. Sound biblical?

[davidinalameda]

30. poor Joe

why doesn't he just go home and be quiet

[pinniped]

33. What, no JoeMentum jokes?

n/t

[Moloch]

46. Re:"What, no JoeMentum jokes?"

Heard any good ones lately?

The best one I heard was on The Daily Show when he was campaigning in New Hampshire. They showed Jomentum harassing people eating. This one girl was looking down at her plate and Jon Stewart said"Jomentum? It looks like they're joe blowing you off" it made me chuckle.

[KamaAina]

34. KamaAina says Lieberman needs to stay in Connecticut

and quit contributing to Washington's smog problem by spewing all that hot air.

The one and only time I ever voted repuke in a national race was for Lowell Weicker over JoeMentum. I do not regret it.

[Khephra]

37. This says it all

[sendero]

38. Well as I recall....

... his mama loves him, so he can't be all bad.

The bottom line is this: we are going to accomplish nothing further by staying in Iraq. We can get out now, or after it has cost more lives and dollars and good will (not that there is much of that left at this point).

I have some hope that Kerry will come around, based on his record. I have none that Joe would.

[Parche]

39. CT

And if someone invaded Connecticut he would...........................?

[okieinpain]

40. he's right but our exposure needs to be greatly reduced. and

the oil needs to be turned over to the iraqi's to run. also the iraqi's should be the one's handing out the building contracts, and picking their own council members. not bush, not bremer, not chaney, not rumsfield, but this will never happen as long as bush is running the show.

[powergirl]

43. Why doesn't Joe go ahead an propose to George and give him a ring!

:loveya: Joe and George sittin' in a tree . ..

[FlemingsGhost]

47. Joe's got some kids. Any of them in Iraq?

How about grandkids... When do they become of age?