Jail Me Says Furious Submarine "Mutineer'

[Tinoire]

Jail Me Says Furious Submarine "Mutineer'
Apr 29 2004

By Tom Newton Dunn, Defence Correspondent

HMS Trafalgar mutineer James Metcalf claimed yesterday the nuclear sub was so dangerous he feared for the crew's life.

The sonar operator, father of two-year-old Ellie-Mae, said: " I've never seen a boat in such poor condition. It's fair to describe it as a death trap.

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Trafalgar ran aground off the Isle of Skye in November 2002. The £300million vessel was refitted - but emerged with hundreds of defects.

They allegedly included a faulty nuclear reactor, sub-standard safety equipment, high radiation levels and a misaligned £30million nose. The sub has also had two gas leak alerts.

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"Go back on a ticking time-bomb, or go to prison - what choice is that?

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[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. Funny.

>sub-standard safety equipment

Heh heh heh.

[ConcernedCanuk]

2. Hmmmm - The BBC says the Ministry of Defence denies most of this

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Is Britain's MoD taking lessons from the USA's DoD? I wonder.

So far, I've been trusting the Accuracy of the BBC, but if if the MoD is in bed with the DoD - who knows?
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Safety fears see sailors quit sub

A group of Royal Navy submariners have been given permission to leave HMS Trafalgar, after they expressed fears over their safety.

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They also stressed that there had been no mutiny, with no sailors refusing to sail, and that there would be no disciplinary action.

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An MoD spokesman later said that five sailors had now returned to the submarine, three were still being medically assessed and two had been cleared fit but had not as yet returned and were to be interviewed again.

One man had refused to return to vessel.



Damm, I hate them papers that make a "paragraph" out of one sentence.

Alot more detail in the article: deserves a close read.

If the Mirror article is true though, wonder what happens to "whistle-blowers" in the UK?

-:shrug:-

[MichaelUK]

3. Whistle blowers in UK

Not much. Honourable discharge if the charges can be backed up. Frankly, I believe the article. We put next to nothing into our armed forces (our current "funding scandal" is about street lighting - that's how litte money we have in government).

Good on the "mutineers" though. Takes a lot to stand up for what you believe in.

[ConcernedCanuk]

6. hmmm - "funding scandal" & "how little money we have in government"

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Is it possible,

just a WEE bit possible . .

That Tony's "cooperation" on the Iraq war was "bought"??

NOT that the USA would bribe or threaten, heck no

Just a silly Canuk Question . .

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[Another Bill C.]

4. The Admiral doesn't seem to be in touch.

"The 11 rebels include three of Trafalgar's four safety experts...."

"Admiral Band said none of the 11 sailors could be classed as safety experts. He added: 'There is no question of a mutiny aboard Trafalgar.'"

[BiggJawn]

9. Admiral Band pining for the days of "Sodomy and the Lash"?

These are trained experts in their fields, not some gobs the Press Gang picked up in a Liverpool Pub...

[Capt_Nemo]

5. From what I heard HMS Trafalgar (the 1st of its class)

always had a troubled history. 20+ dead in several accidents
during its service life. About a dozen of them died in a fire in the
torpedo compartment a few years ago.

[proud patriot]

7. I love the gumption of the salior

I saw the movie about the soviet sub
that leaked radiation durring the cold
war . I don't understand why the Navy
would want to endanger Saliors .

[supernova]

8. Kursk Redux?

If the sailors working on the sub every day have problems and think it's unsafe, I tend to believe them. :scared:

especially if the refitting had problems... :scared?