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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:47 AM
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Report: Tentative handover deal in Fallujah
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi and U.S. Marine generals have reached a tentative agreement that would hand over control of Fallujah to the new Iraqi army, a journalist embedded with the 1st Marine Division told CNN.

The deal is based on several caveats, including whether the Iraqi army can stop insurgents from launching attacks, Los Angeles Times reporter Tony Perry said.

Perry said it would be "a slow transition of a week or two" before the Marines would move out and let the new Iraqi army take over.

According to Perry, the Iraqi army would be led by the four Iraqi generals who met with their U.S. Marine counterparts Thursday.

The Marines and civilian officials offered the generals money and equipment to rebuild the army, but they turned it down, most likely because of pride.

~snip~
more: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/29/iraq.main/index.html
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:56 AM
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1. bring in the Baathists!

CNN reporters are peeing over themselves reporting how this is a major breakthrough. Same generals we were trying to kill 6 months ago. We have NO IDEA wtf we are doing over there and are grasping at straws at any possible solution -- good or bad.

Bush is even crying to the UN...what's good today is bad tomorrow. Truth and principles are in flux.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:59 AM
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2. Sadaam's army will put down this rebellion
Get those MP women from the prison ready to handle the Prisoners !!!!!!!!!!!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:09 AM
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3. the bad guys are now good guys
as long as they are bailing bushco out of the shit pile it got us into. :(
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:12 AM
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4. We have always been at war with Eurasia!


Honestly, everyone NEEDS TO READ Orwell's 1984. And I won't shut up about it until everyone on here has!!!!
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:16 AM
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5. How much sense does this make?
Fallujah is not secured in any sense of the word. We are blowing the very hell out of the city while the Big Fool maintains that a cease-fire is in effect. We basically fired the whole Iraqi army last year and now we're going to hand the situation over to them during "a slow transition period of two weeks?"

Tell me again how this ain't a political war?

:freak:
dbt
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:19 AM
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6. it's a stall tactic

The U.S. gets a reprieve and they can blame the Iraqi army when Fallujah continues to be obstinate.

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:36 AM
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7. US Marines holding back info of 2nd mutiny
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At the start of the siege of Fallujah three weeks ago, one of the five battalions of the newly formed Iraqi army refused to go to the city because many of its soldiers were not prepared to fight fellow Iraqis.

But news of the mutiny of a second Iraqi unit had not been released. Mr Allawi said US Marines "had to separate those who did want to fight from those who would not".


The battalion may have split along ethnic lines. Its soldiers were recruited from the militiamen of the Iraqi political parties which belong to the US-appointed Iraqi Governing Council, and about half were Kurdish soldiers, known as peshmerga. The Kurds were prepared to fight but Iraqi Arab soldiers said they had had enough. Those who refused to fight were withdrawn from the battlefield for retraining.

Some members of the governing council have said that the performance of the 36th battalion showed a new Iraqi army should be recruited from politically committed militiamen and party members.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=516306
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:45 AM
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8. Half the Iraqi army that goes into the city will refuse to fight
the other half will join the insurgency
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:56 AM
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9. I'm betting they will ALL join the so-called "insurgency".
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:22 AM
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10. Please discuss here
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