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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 09:51 AM
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Uncle Sam Wants Your DNA
Source: NBC News

The Veterans Administration is hoping there will be power in numbers which is why it has launched the Million Veteran Program.

It hopes to collect DNA samples from veterans for a new research project.

The goal is for scientists to learn more about how genes affect our health.

For example, why do some vets develop post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and others in the same combat situation don't?




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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 09:56 AM
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1. Certainly. And then for insurance companies to use. nt
PB
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:06 AM
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2. It could possibly lead to
developing emotional-suppressing "medicine" that could prevent PSTD. Veterans get PSTD generally due to the horrors of killing another human being, or watching those they care about get killed.

There's this thing called human nature that allows us to feel emotion for the things that we do or see. I hope it doesn't lead to some sort of emotional blocking in the future.

(it might be a far-fetched notion, but it's noteworthy anyhow) :hi:
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:43 AM
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11. you're right, they're already working on it, they have drugs that work great - for some people
I imagine they want to find out why they can't drug some people into mindless killing, and suppress whatever the problem is.
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:28 AM
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3. It seems one's DNA can just be taken............go to a dentist
have a procedure, whatever and your DNA has been taken. A big problem is when they start patenting it...........:wtf:
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:47 AM
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4. DNA can be taken;
From a blood draw, vaccination, etc... all without your knowledge, much less consent.

The National ID card's proposal includes provisions that ones' DNA information be encoded on the card.
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James48 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:50 AM
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5. Already done.
The military services have all been taking DNA swabs on every person since the mid 1990's. They (DoD) already has the DNA information on all soldiers since then. Now what they need to do is simply share information with the VA, and the VA will have all it needs for the studies.

Why is this even being discussed? It's already more than a decade into taking DNA samples of military people.
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:54 AM
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6. Perhaps because this is voluntary.
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 10:58 AM by backtoblue
I'll bet most of the folks getting their mouths swabbed did not realize what DNA was or what it could be used for. nt.

People were generally not aware that their DNA was being taken. Now that they think they have a choice in the matter, it won't cause as big a raucous from the people.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 11:17 AM
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7. Would it be OK to treat the data anonymously?
Problem is, if said military services included controversial or banned methods, then the results of DNA or gene expression studies on these people would be kept confidential.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 11:28 AM
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8. that creeps me out
dna for use in breeding/cloning a perfect soldier...? :hide:
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:42 PM
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9. me too
The way our society is going, you really can't be too sure that couldn't happen.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:03 PM
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10. Why do some vets develop PTSD?? Uh. Maybe because they
have deep feelings that got pummelled?
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 10:44 AM
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12. Copyright your own DNA under a Creative Commons no-commercial-use license
I'd love to see a foundation that funded this. It should be a free service to register with.
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:21 AM
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13. Now that's an idea
Copyright your own before someone else does. nt
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:47 PM
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14. Good luck with that, Unc.
Though I once believed this society was going to wind up looking more and more like Minority Report, now I'm wondering whether people really are going to tolerate this from politicians and their enablers. People who have no credibility left can't violate our privacy rights this way.

And why anyone would voluntarily submit to this is beyond me.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 03:52 PM
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15. He's welcome to swab his lips to see if he picked up any of my DNA after he kisses my ass. NT
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backtoblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 04:03 PM
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16. .
:applause:
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