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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:28 PM
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Filipinos Pelt Hillary Clinton’s Convoy with Eggs
Edited on Thu Nov-17-11 03:28 PM by The Northerner
Source: International Business Times

A convoy of U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Manila, the Philippines, was pelted with eggs and red paint on Wednesday. The incident happened after Clinton's meeting with President Benigno Aquino III.

Several dozen demonstrators, who are members of the League of Filipino Students (LFS), were protesting an agreement which exempted U.S. troops from criminal prosecution in the Philippines.

According to local news service Aksyon, the protesters managed to stop the convoy and began their ambush on the motorcade. Filipino anti-riot police struggled to barricade the convoy from the swarm of activists.

Troops of the Presidential Security Group quickly stepped out from an escort vehicle and joined with the police forces. They finally succeeded to clear the crowd while the main body of the convoy took another route and was out of sight. Some activists were hurt, but no arrests were made.

Read more: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/251408/20111117/filipinos-pelt-hillary-clinton-s-convoy-eggs.htm
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:30 PM
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1. I hope she doesn't have Bosnia flashbacks!
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:35 PM
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3. Q: Do you know the difference between a nursery rhyme and a war story?
A: The war story begins "This ain't no bullshit"..
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:40 PM
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4. Heh....
- K&R










http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hklqkwyISuk">''All tyranny needs to gain a foothold, is for people of good conscience to remain silent.'' ~ Thomas Jefferson.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:42 PM
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6. Q: Do you know the difference between exemption from prosecution and riding in a limo?
A: The exemption from prosecution begins with "the exemption from prosecution." The riding in a limo begins with "riding in a limo."
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:34 AM
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31. The difference between a fairy tale and a war story?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:32 PM
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2. I would be, too --
Exempting ANYONE from justice is bullshit. :mad:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:30 PM
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15. Yes.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:30 PM
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16. Yes.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:36 AM
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32. That is so first millenium.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:41 PM
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5. What a disgrace our government is to basic human decency. nt
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:32 PM
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28. There is no such thing as a benevolent government.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:37 AM
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33. There is a big gap between benovolent and shielding the military from liablity.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:47 PM
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7. now she knows how the beatles felt when they were in manila nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:39 AM
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34. Whom had the Beatles shielded from liability?
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 03:56 PM
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8. Similar to Nixon's plight in Caracas in 1958. . .
During a goodwill trip through Latin America, Vice President Richard Nixon's car is attacked by an angry crowd and nearly overturned while traveling through Caracas, Venezuela. The incident was the dramatic highlight of trip characterized by Latin American anger over some of America's Cold War policies.

By 1958, relations between the United States and Latin America had reached their lowest point in years. Latin Americans complained that the U.S. focus on the Cold War and anticommunism failed to address the pressing economic and political needs of many Latin American nations. In particular, they argued that their countries needed more basic economic assistance, not more arms to repel communism. They also questioned the American support of dictatorial regimes in Latin America simply because those regimes claimed to be anticommunist—for example, the U.S. awarded the Legion of Merit medal to Venezuelan dictator Marcos Perez Jimenez in 1954; Jimenez was overthrown by a military coup early in 1958.

This was the atmosphere into which Vice President Richard Nixon arrived during his goodwill trip through Latin America in April and May 1958. The trip began with some controversy, as Nixon engaged in loud and bitter debates with student groups during his travels through Peru and Uruguay. In Caracas, Venezuela, however, things took a dangerous turn. A large crowd of angry Venezuelans who shouted anti-American slogans stopped Nixon's motorcade through the capital city. They attacked the car, damaged its body and smashed the windows. Inside the vehicle, Secret Service agents covered the vice president and at least one reportedly pulled out his weapon. Miraculously, they escaped from the crowd and sped away. In Washington, President Eisenhower dispatched U.S. troops to the Caribbean area to rescue Nixon from further threats if necessary. None occurred, and the vice president left Venezuela ahead of schedule.

The riot in Caracas served as a wake-up call to U.S. officials in Washington, alerting them to America's deteriorating relations with Latin America. In the next few months, the United States increased both its military and economic assistance to the region. However, it was not until communist Fidel Castro's rise to power in Cuba beginning in 1959 that the United States truly realized the extent of discontent and rebelliousness in Latin America.


http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/vice-president-nixon-is-attacked
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:50 PM
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20. Nixon to Rockefeller: (David Frye version)
I know how you feel, Nelson. I was stoned in Caracas.

Nelson: I didn't have time for that!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:01 PM
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9. Exemption from prosecution?
How would Americans feel if foreign troops on U.S. soil were allowed to vandalize the property of Americans, beat up Americans, and rape Americans, and the American criminal justice system couldn't touch them?
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:12 PM
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23. Well, if it was without our governments consent
I would be pretty pissed at whatever country was here without permission. But since the democratic government of the phillipines allows us to be there and signs agreements to exempt us from prosecution.... Maybe they should be egging their own elected politicians cars. Or at least vote them out. Misplaced rage.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 10:27 PM
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27. How do you know that they're NOT protesting their own government?
Judging from what has happened in Japan with regard to all the bases there, the Filipinos probably are working on their own government.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:40 AM
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35.  You can rationalize shielding toops from liability for rape? Impressive.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-11 09:45 AM by No Elephants
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:02 PM
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10. Why do they hate freedom? nt.
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ArcticFox Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:36 PM
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11. They don't hate all freedom
Just OUR freedoms
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:43 AM
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36. Our freedoms are toast. They're so 1999.
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ArcticFox Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:43 PM
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41. Actually I meant something else entirely
I meant our freedom to rape and pillage them and their country with impunity.
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:33 PM
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43. 1947...
was when the so-called, "intelligence" services were created, that was the end of the line for the USA as a democracy where the citizens had any input into policies and the governments direction.

By 1960, "Ike", warned the nation about the hidden menace behind the curtain. Our nation has been ruled by a system known to political scientists as "Inverted Totalitarianism" since the coup on November 22nd, in 1963.

Read L. Fletcher Prouty's suppressed book, and available again now, written in the early 1970s, THE SECRET TEAM. It's an eye and mind opener...
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:59 PM
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24. Hey, FREEDOM isn't FREE!
Or something like that.

:P
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:47 AM
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37. No, but I'm reasonable.
Oh, wait. That was the punchline to a different joke.

never mind.
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Dutchmaster Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 04:40 PM
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12. Those savages just don't know we're trying to enlighten them.
We may have to destroy the Philippines in order to save them.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:25 PM
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14. No shit...
Where's the Outrage? Where's the shock and awe? Where's the Jack Daniel? Where's the pisser?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:00 PM
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25. The word "obliterate" comes to mind......n/t
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:22 PM
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13. Sounds like
Their anti-riot police need some pointers from NYPD and OPD. Here in the US we would have had no trouble suppressing these "protestors" right into the mud, with boots on their necks.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:41 PM
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17. I remember them chasing the Beatles to their plane because
they did not attend a party for Imelda Marcos
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:43 PM
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18. The students are right to protest against this, they have a right to expect national sovereignty.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:50 AM
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38. They sure have a right to want troops to be liable for committing crimes.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:43 PM
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19. Good
Such exemptions are disgusting.

Good that there were no arrests too.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 05:54 PM
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21. At least they didn't waste any lumpia
:P
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 07:05 PM
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22. Duck or Chicken?
x(
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Little Tich Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 08:18 PM
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26. RP–US Visiting Forces Agreement - Wikipedia
Source: wikipedia (edited for clarity)

The RP–US Visiting Forces Agreement is a bilateral agreement between the Philippines and the United States consisting of two separate agreement documents. The first of these documents is commonly referred to as "the VFA" or "VFA-1", and the second as "VFA-2" or "the Counterpart Agreement". Both documents became effective on May 27, 1999, upon ratification by the Philippine Senate. The United States government regards these documents as Executive Agreements not requiring approval by the U.S. Senate.

The term "VFA" is usually used in the Philippines to refer specifically to just the first of these two documents, which has been the subject of continuing controversy in the Philippines.

VFA-1
Effect: The primary effect of the Agreement is that it allows the U.S. government to retain jurisdiction over U.S. military personnel accused of committing crimes in the Philippines, unless the crimes are of "particular" importance to the Philippines. This means that for crimes without this significance, the U.S. can refuse to detain or arrest accused personnel, or may instead prosecute them under U.S. jurisdiction. The Agreement also exempts U.S. military personnel from visa and passport regulations in the Philippines.

The Agreement contains various procedural safeguards which amongst other things establish the right to due process and proscribe double jeopardy. The Agreement also prevents U.S. military personnel from being tried in Filipino religious or military courts; requires both governments to waive any claims concerning loss of materials (though it does require that the U.S. honor contractual arrangements and comply with U.S. law regarding payment of just and reasonable compensation in settlement of meritorious claims for damage, loss, personal injury or death, caused by acts or omissions of United States personnel); exempts material exported and imported by the military from duties or taxes; and allows unrestricted movement of U.S. vessels and aircraft in the Philippines.

Read More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP%E2%80%93US_Visiting_Forces_Agreement
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:07 PM
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29. Send in the drones!
:hide:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:33 AM
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30. They're already there ...
... and getting pelted with eggs too!

:P
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:53 AM
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39. He said "send in the drones," not "send in the crones."
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:55 AM
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40. Filipino Spring? They arrested Arroyo for election fraud, too.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:23 PM
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42. At least their eggs are most likely free from salmonella poisoning
Unlike ours.

No harm, no fowl.
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