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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 06:10 PM
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Exclusive: IEA draft: Nuclear to fall as power demand
Source: Reuters

The Fukushima disaster could lead to a 15 percent fall in world nuclear power generation by 2035, while power demand at the same time could rise by 3.1 percent a year, according to a draft copy of the International Energy Agency's 2011 World Energy Outlook.

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"The share of nuclear power in total generation drops from 13 percent today to just 7 percent in 2035, with implications for energy security, fuel-mix diversity, spending on energy imports and energy-related CO2 emissions."

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The report said it expected non-hydro renewables to generate 16 percent of global electricity in 2035, up from 3 percent in 2009.

"The IEA has adjusted the World Energy Outlook over the past decade in 'mini steps' toward more and more renewable energy deployment," said Sven Teske, a senior energy expert at Greenpeace International.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/04/us-energy-iea-nuclear-idUSTRE7A32AN20111104



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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 06:14 PM
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1. Al Gore was right: nuclear won't play a major role in solving the climate crisis
Although he was wrong in expecting it to increase slightly as a percentage.
That was back when nuclear was 16% of electricity generation, around 2006 IIRC.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 06:30 PM
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2. They'll keep trying -- and so will Obama --- but we need to CLOSE 100+ nuke reactors across US!!
We are going to have Global Warming bringing more earthquakes and more severe earthquakes --

The government in Fukushima had wanted to close down their nukes -- due to age, the fact that

they were only built to withstand 7.1 earthquakes -- and because Japanese scientists were

reporting increasing seismic activity on that eartquake prone island!

W Bush sent a team of nuclear industry people and government representatives and soon the

reactors were staying but the government was being changed!


Consider the suffering that could have been saved Japan and the world had that corrupt power

not been used to keep those reactors going -- !!


Given the design of their reactors, it will take a year to properly shut down a reactor -- and

I'm not sure if that includes the WASTE!


Our nuclear reactors require 6 months to properly shut down -- and don't know if that includes

proper disposal of the WASTE -- !!


Closing down our nuclear reactors could make the difference between "a whimper or a bang" -- !!




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MJJP21 Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 06:45 PM
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3. How does
How does global warming contribute to earthquakes? I've never heard that one. Unfortunately and I agree that global warming is a reality and caused by man nuclear is really your only alternative to burning fossil fuels. Wind, water, etc are never going to replace oil ,coal and natural gas. Can/should safety be improved ? Absolutely!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 07:15 PM
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5. Earthquakes are one of the two things that most people don't know about Global Warming ---
Edited on Fri Nov-04-11 07:18 PM by defendandprotect
The melting of the glaciers changes the pressures on the tectonic plates --

which creates earthquakes --

and earthquakes in turn trigger volcanic activity.

We will have more earthquakes and more severe earthquakes --


"Congress is controlled by the oil and gas industry" -- Al Gore/Rolling Stone this summer

Do you really think this Congress is going to tell you the truth about any of this?


We've known for decades that we can no longer burn fossil fuels -- that's why Koch Bros.

bought our government and our elected officials!


During the Enron energy crisis created by Ken Lay and his fellow criminals -- while they were

ripping off their customers and CA government/pension funds -- others were putting up wind

energy which in 4 months was able to create electricity for 178,000 families!



We are using nuclear power to boil water to create steam -- what kind of sense

does that make?


Nuclear is a huge threat to humanity if you understand Fukushima!

The government in Fukushima, 5 or 6 years ago, wanted to close down the reactors.

Imagine the suffering that could have been saved the world!



The other part of GW that isn't well known is that there was a 50 year delay in our feeling the

effects of it -- in other words we are only now feeling the effectrs of human activity up to

about 1960! -- Imagine all we did after that time!


The glaciers actually began to melt in the 1940's due to the Industrial Revolution -- and

accelerated after the WWII build up for war.

Scientists have know for 125 and more years that human activity was negatively and seriously

effecting nature/trees/humans.


We are also one of the sickest nations on earth !!
















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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 07:18 PM
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6. April 2011: Scientists Find Link Between Global Warming and Earthquakes
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/560158/scientists_find_link_between_global_warming_and_earthquakes/

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An Australian-led team of researchers from France and Germany found that the strengthening Indian monsoon had accelerated movement of the Indian plate over the past 10 million years by a factor of about 20 percent.

Lead researcher Giampiero Iaffaldano said Wednesday that although scientists have long known that tectonic movements influence climate by creating new mountains and sea trenches, his study was the first to show the reverse.

"The closure or opening of new ocean basins or the build of large mountain bands like the Andes or Tibet itself, those are geological processes that affect the pattern of climate," said Iaffaldano, an earth scientist with the Australian National University.

"We are showing for the first time that the opposite also is true, that the pattern of climate is then able to affect back in a feedback mechanism the motion of tectonic plates."

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 07:20 PM
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7. April 2010: Royal Society Stunner: “Observations suggest that the ongoing rise in global average tem
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2010/04/19/205832/global-warming-link-volcanoes-earthquakes-landslides-tsunamis-royal-society-scientists/

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Periods of exceptional climate change in Earth history are associated with a dynamic response from the solid Earth, involving enhanced levels of potentially hazardous geological and geomorphological activity. This response is expressed through the adjustment, modulation or triggering of a wide range of surface and crustal phenomena, including volcanic and seismic activity, submarine and sub-aerial landslides, tsunamis and landslide ‘splash’ waves glacial outburst and rock-dam failure floods, debris flows and gas-hydrate destabilisation. Looking ahead, modelling studies and projection of current trends point towards increased risk in relation to a spectrum of geological and geomorphological hazards in a world warmed by anthropogenic climate change, while observations suggest that the ongoing rise in global average temperatures may already be eliciting a hazardous response from the geosphere.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-11 10:18 AM
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8. Renewable energy can and will replace non-renewables
Edited on Sat Nov-05-11 10:20 AM by bananas
As non-renewable resources run down, they become more difficult, expensive, and environmentally destructive to extract.

As renewable technology increases and as manufacturing scales up, costs go down.

Non-renewable energy resources are tiny compared to renewable energy resources,
we receive more energy from the sun each year than we could ever get from fossil and nuclear energy,
we only need a tiny fraction of that to power civilization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_resources_and_consumption

The estimates of remaining non-renewable worldwide energy resources vary, with the remaining fossil fuels totaling an estimated 0.4 YJ (1 YJ = 10^24J) and the available nuclear fuel such as uranium exceeding 2.5 YJ. Fossil fuels range from 0.6 to 3 YJ if estimates of reserves of methane clathrates are accurate and become technically extractable. The total energy flux from the sun is 3.8 YJ/yr, dwarfing all non-renewable resources.


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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-11 06:55 PM
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4. Yes, close them each and every one.
ASAP. Certainly should and could be done by 2015.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 02:35 AM
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9. You might want to hold your applause until you read the article thoroughly
Because the picture it paints for the future of our planet isn't pretty:

"CO2 emissions in the power sector increase by over one-fifth between 2009 and 2035, growing more slowly than demand as a result of increased use of low-carbon energy sources and improved plant efficiency."

The boom in renewables will help slow CO2 emissions, but even 20 yr from now they still see CO2 emissions rising. That alone makes it almost impossible to prevent a 2 degree C or better spike in global temperatures by the end of the century, and 2C is widely believed to be the point at which major ecosystem failures and mass extinction sets in.
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