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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:46 AM
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Iran 'Will Be Dealt With,' Bush Says
Iran 'Will Be Dealt With,' Bush Says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32542-2004Apr21.html?nav=headlines
Bid to Start at U.N., President Says
By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, April 22, 2004; Page A06



President Bush told newspaper editors in Washington yesterday that Iran "will be dealt with, starting through the United Nations" if it does not stop developing nuclear weapons and begin total cooperation with international inspectors.

---snip---

"The Iranians need to feel the pressure from the world that any nuclear weapons program will be uniformly condemned -- it's essential that they hear that message," he said. "The development of a nuclear weapon in Iran is intolerable, and a program is intolerable. . . . Otherwise, they will be dealt with, starting through the United Nations."

---snip---

The language was reminiscent of comments Bush made about Iraq long before the war, and to admonitions he has issued to Syria. Iran, along with Iraq and North Korea, was part of the "axis of evil" in his State of the Union address in 2002.

Bush said last July that Iran and Syria "will be held accountable" if they failed to cooperate more fully with the administration's campaign against terrorism.

Administration officials said they have no plans to attack Iran, and that Bush's policy on Tehran had not changed. But the remarks offered a window into Bush's long-range view of relations with Tehran. He usually speaks from a text but aides said he wanted to speak yesterday without a script, using just a list of topics he wanted to cover.

---snip---

On Tuesday evening, Bush told Republican congressional leaders during a meeting at the White House that it was all but certain that terrorists would attempt a major attack on the United States before the election, according to a congressional aide. The leaders were struck by Bush's definitiveness and gravity, the aide said.

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:eyes:
madame zola predicts: next terra-attack on US soil will be blamed on Iran

anyone doubt that bush* will invade Iran or Syria or both?
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:49 AM
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1. This guy has a movie playing in his head..
which bears ABSOLUTELY NO resemblance to reality. My bet is that if elected, * will be led out by guys in coats before his term is up.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 03:58 AM
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2. No, we will. He's waiting for his "mandate."
With proof from the people added to the voice of God, George is going to bring the flaming sword of Christianity to the benighted Muslims of the Middle East and start World War III. Iran, Syria, he's going to "liberate" them all. After that, the Jews of Israel will be so impressed they'll convert and throw flowers. Yes, they will. God told him so.

And now we know that Republican brains are different. We must work hard and study to find out what will impress the human who MUST follow the image of a leader, even though there's no truth in it.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:06 AM
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3. Be careful what you wish for
We get our troops out of Iraq, but they are just going over to Iran. :scared:

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:19 AM
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4. did anyone see a clip of that speech?
I did briefly last night when he was talking about an attack against the US. It was scary the way he was smirking, laughing and leaning on the podium while talking about US Attacks!! OMG I think he is certifiable!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:10 AM
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23. Do you think it might be dawning on the dimwits in Congress
that the Bush Crime Family is planning to attack America again?? Hillary thinks the whole thing is a great idea. She'll go for it again. Oil! Oil1! We want oil!
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:25 AM
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5. See, Bush has to get a UN resolution against Iran first
before he can send in our troops, according to the carte blanche that our congress gave Bush. Once he has the UN telling Iran to stop, then all he has to say is that they are violating the UN resolution, and wham bam, he already has permission to use "any means necessary" to stop terrorism.

Bush said in his "news conference" the other night that Iraq was merely a "theater" in the war on terror. That was the cue - the warning that we will do what we are doing in Iraq in other countries. These other countries know this. Only the American people seem to be so dense as to miss it. He can't open another "theater" of war, though, without more troops, which will require the draft. I'm telling you that if he is reelected the draft will begin and we will have troops all over the globe fighting Islamic people.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:29 AM
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6. I, for one, doubt Dumbya will invade Iran
The top brass won't go for it, no way, nada. Iran's defense capability is far and away enough of a deterrent to any ill-conceived notions of U.S. invasion, sane or otherwise.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:37 AM
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8. Rumsfeld purged the military, remember?
The remaining guys are largely loyal to these fuckers.

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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 05:00 AM
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12. Hmmmm...
You have a point.

x( :nuke:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:14 AM
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24. Oh YA Myers is Big Blue the Lap Dog
They are all Lap Dogs, they also display the dog greeting, when meeting their masters the NEOCONS.
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:48 AM
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9. don't be so sure of bushco not going after Iran...
just go have a read of the notes from the senate committee hearing of what an "Alice in Wonderland" view of the world Bushco's neocons have. (Perle the non-expert being 'planted' on an expert committee) It sounds like the actually think a dictator such as chalabi will fix it all..and then it is off to overthrow the next arab nation and place another friendly dictator in. Man these dudes are a scarey bunch...dumb, arrogant, and simple minded fools.

http://www.juancole.com




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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:48 AM
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10. so what if "top brass" won't go for it
bush* inc. will just kick them out and replace them with "top brass" that will go for it

prior to and just after invading Iraq -- certain "brass" were saying that it wasn't going to be a 'cakewalk' and we needed more troops

bush* didn't listen then, these "brass" were kicked out on their a$$ and replaced with more "cooperative brass"

and the last time I looked - chimp'n-chief rank trumped "top brass"

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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:01 AM
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21. They let him invade Iraq
Sure Saddam was a paper tiger with a weak military, but the professional soldiers must have known that the occupation would be difficult and expensive and bloody and not worth the risk, but they let the blundering fool do it anyway. So why not let him fuck up on an even larger scale and invade Iran or Syria?

IF they (and Powell) had any guts or integrity they would have at least resigned rather than go along with this madness.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:36 AM
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7. The Holy War
W the Deranged is convinced that his god demands
that America spread freedom to the Axis of Evil.

Troops aren't needed. Missles and bombs will suffice.

If Syria &/or Iran is attacked these countries will flood their
troops into Iraq.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:55 AM
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11. Aye, perhaps it's a taste of his blade they crave!


We should thank our lucky stars our Supreme Court sent him to us.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 05:05 AM
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13. think israeli style bombing raid
remember, tactically, the u.s. believes it can accomplish just about anything from the air.
they don't need to invade to get certain desired results.
it may be that these people believe war with the m.e. is necessary -- i don't know.
and yes -- bush is crazy of that there can be little doubt -- and it's bloody well scary.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 05:17 AM
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14. Somebody check me on this
Edited on Thu Apr-22-04 05:18 AM by hippywife
but since the IAEA went to Iran and investigated, hasn't Iran agreed to compliance and already taken steps in that direction?

This is the same kind of rhetoric we got for nearly a year before Iraq with the Bush Administration ignoring all the evidence from scientists that didn't square with their agenda to attack.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:44 AM
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20. Iran has taken steps and Jack Straw is meeting with Iran today
Iran agrees to speed up nuclear cooperation

By Reuters, 4/7/2004

TEHRAN -- Iran pledged yesterday to accelerate cooperation with the UN atomic watchdog in a bid to prove it is not seeking nuclear weapons, but it also pressed to end UN inspections by June.

ADVERTISEMENT

Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said Iran agreed to a timetable for nuclear checks and to submit full details of its program and ambitions to the IAEA in mid-May.

ElBaradei told reporters after talks in Tehran that Gholamreza Aghazadeh, Iran's nuclear chief, "committed that Iran will do everything possible to accelerate the process of resolving the outstanding issues," ElBaradei told reporters after talks in Tehran.

The IAEA is seeking clarification of how traces of weapons-grade uranium came to be found at the Natanz enrichment plant south of Tehran and a Kalaye Electric Company workshop.

The United States accuses Iran of pursuing a nuclear weapons program, but Tehran says its nuclear ambitions are confined to generating electricity. Hawks in Washington are seeking to get the UN Security Council to impose sanctions against Iran. State Department spokesman Adam Ereli told reporters the United States would take a wait-and-see attitude.

~snip~
http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/04/07/iran_agrees_to_speed_up_nuclear_cooperation/

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So I guess bush waited 2 weeks and now feels the need to end diplomatic means of resolution...and start the Iran Is Part of the Axis of Evil rhetoric once again. :(
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:33 AM
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15. He will not be the first leader that brings death to many for a 'dream'
All dreams are not good. People in Europe and Asia that know their history can see his problem and what we are messing with but many Americans just do not want to face up to it. We have, I bet killed 30,000 to repay the 3000 gone in WTC. Just how long can we kill off people for that? Just how do you stop terrorist? There are more killing by terrorist since we started this than before. Some are going to see that.Used to be every few months and now it is a few times a day. Even some one who thinks Bush talks to God can see this.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:13 AM
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16. A new "terra" attack
,but I thought the chimp and his extremist policies were going to make us "safer". The cats outta the bag and I am telling everyone who'll listen, they are going to attack again as a pretense to impose martial law and try and stop the elections. They floated the idea before and it was met with silence, the Democrats had nothing to say about this.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:26 AM
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17. bush doesn't have enough troops left to invade a 7-11
Spent all our troops, money, resources and good will on the biggest blunder of this centuary, IRAQ.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:28 AM
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18. If they go after Iran
they will be fucked. For one thing, the Iranian government is nowhere near as unpopular as Saddam was. For another thing, Iran has a proper military which was never crippled by sanctions in the way that Iraq's was. Also, US troops are hardly in great shape for another long war after Iraq. Even more simplistically, Iran is much bigger than Iraq, and would be even harder to secure, requiring maybe twice the troop deployment post-invasion. IMHO, there is no way for the US to invade Iran and keep Iraq even semi-peaceful at the moment, and even GWB is smart enough to realize it.

V
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:39 AM
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19. The war won't end in our lifetime, but
what's our life expectancy if Bush is re-selected?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:02 AM
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22. And Israel, who actually uses her WMD and is engaged in genocide
against her meighbors, gets a free pass and more free goodies from the US. Over two hundred nukes pointed at your neighbors....here's a few more.
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:25 AM
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25. Double standards
"The Israelis need to feel the pressure from the world that any nuclear weapons program will be uniformly condemned -- it's essential that they hear that message," he said. "The development of a nuclear weapon in Israel is intolerable, and a program is intolerable. . . . Otherwise, they will be dealt with, starting through the United Nations."

"The Pakistanis need to feel the pressure from the world that any nuclear weapons program will be uniformly condemned -- it's essential that they hear that message," he said. "The development of a nuclear weapon in Pakistan is intolerable, and a program is intolerable. . . . Otherwise, they will be dealt with, starting through the United Nations."

"The Indians need to feel the pressure from the world that any nuclear weapons program will be uniformly condemned -- it's essential that they hear that message," he said. "The development of a nuclear weapon in India is intolerable, and a program is intolerable. . . . Otherwise, they will be dealt with, starting through the United Nations."

Oh, I forgot, these are the GOOD GUYS!

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:40 AM
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26. They smirk because some of them think LIHOP is a real hoot.
Iran, Cuba, Syria, N.Korea, Ireland-they don't care who they threaten as they're on a roll with getting away with murder- and having everything going their way imo.

Moreover, for those of us familiar with PNAC, the recent coup in Haiti and several intrigues in Africa only highlight what the administration of George W. Bush aka The War President is about, the neo-conservative traitors are following PNAC, not our US Constitution, not the progress of democracy- they have failed though, thanks to Americans finally speaking out from within the shadow government of the Vulcans, here in HOMELAND safe under a PATRIOT ACT and guarded by the mercenaries of HOMELAND SECURITY, the masters of war have staged a coup, of sorts, but they've failed just like the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive war that he's ranting about-no one is above our laws, or above our Constitution-these are fascist criminals in this American's considered opinion.
:grr::argh:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:45 AM
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27. Bush is progressively pissing off every nation he sets his eyes on
This guy is a Madman.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:51 AM
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28. Just as Woodward has exposed Bush's war plans and Franks' lies about
drafting them long prior to any war resolution, the Chimpanzee (apologies to chimpanzees of the world) already has his secret war plan drafted without the knowledge of Congress and wants to do more killing for what his "Father" has told him to do.
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