Boehner Asks Obama To Move Jobs Joint Address To Thursday

[Purveyor]

Source: THE HILL

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has asked President Obama to address a joint-session of Congress on Thursday, Sept. 8, when it wouldn't conflict with the Republican presidential debate.

Citing logistical difficulties, Boehner requested that Obama hold his jobs address, which Obama wants to deliver next Wednesday - one day later.

The Speaker's letter made no mention of the more obvious conflict: between the president's speech, and a Republican presidential debate scheduled on Wednesday night at 8 p.m. EST. That debate is the first of the post-Labor Day political season, and the first one in which Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) is set to participate.

The response by Boehner sets up an early showdown between Obama and the Congress just returning from its August recess.

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/179067-boehner-asks-obama-to-move-speech-to-thursday

[FSogol]

1. Boehner doesn't think jobs are important. n/t

[applegrove]

31. LOL! He knows millions of Americans will be tuning into Obama's jobs speech rather than crazy GOP

wingnuts who make up the GOP slate. And that it will be a choice Americans make again and again in the next year.... who to tune into...the real guy or the lying liars?

[KansDem]

2. Who's showing up for these GOP debates?

Much ado about nothing...:eyes:

[ixion]

4. That must be a picture of the village idiots convention

(no offense to REAL village idiots, of course, who are no doubt much more intelligent than that pack of 'morans'. )

[No Elephants]

14. LOL, Mitts looks like Herman Munster.

Historically, the taller candidate has almost always won the Presidential election, even when voters had no way of knowing how tall he was.

Looks like the same is not so of primaries because T-Pity looks like the tallest.

[KansDem]

20. This gang of misfits comes to mind...

:rofl:

[yurbud]

42. these guys? (I hope I included photos of all their demographics)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XP5LTYdLX7g/SRicK1YIJ_I/AAAAAAAAABM/lt9S7O3UMtM/s200/ayn+rand.png

[ixion]

3. shouldn't he be concerned about taking care of business first?

oh, yeah, I forgot who I was talking about.

Really, though, it makes more sense to take care of business first, and debate later.

[jeff47]

9. Theoretically, that could be an angle team Obama uses to attack Republicans

However, team Obama doesn't attack Republicans.

[24601]

33. So you're saying Biden isn't on the team? n/t

[lark]

34. Biden, the token Dem in the Obama Admin.

Sad

[eleny]

5. The R's are between a rock and a hard place

Candidates too weak to take on the president as he gives his speech?

They keep saying how weak he is but if they don't take his challenge then they're the weak ones - plural.

[rsmith6621]

6. Screw Bonner...Nobody is Watching Them....

....How about Bonner ask MSNBC to move it to 10pm EST....

[BlueIdaho]

7. Just one more chance for these teabaggers to place politics ahead of policies.

I just can't wait to see them all pledge allegiance to Grover Norquist again.

[JBoy]

8. Boner talks like Congresscritters do the security sweep of the chamber themselves

"With the significant amount of time – typically more than three hours – that is required to allow for a security sweep of the House Chamber before receiving a president, it is my recommendation that your address be held on the following evening, when we can ensure there will be no parliamentary or logistical impediments that might detract from your remarks.

Boehner noted that the House isn't scheduled to reconvene until 6:30 p.m. on Wednesday.

Sounds like the security pros will have the ideal environment to sweep for security - an empty, unused house.

Think up another "excuse", Boner.

[Cronus Protagonist]

10. Boner, Obama's golfing buddy? He'll cave as usual

You betcha.

[emulatorloo]

11. As you know, that golf game was a photo-op one off.

But I guess it sounds better on DU to pretend they regularly play golf together.

[Cronus Protagonist]

25. ummm how many times do you have to play golf to be a golfing buddy?

...in your world, I mean, 'cos in mine, it's one or more times.

[Cronus Protagonist]

47. So how did Obama's predictable cave-in suit you?

Bubble burst yet, or are you still in denial?

[DJ13]

12. With the 10th anniversary of 9/11 a week after why hold it before that?

Obama's message will get drowned out in the MSM only a few days after his speech.

Thats some pretty stupid messaging by the WH.

[No Elephants]

16. You know it's the date of the Republican debate, right?

[geckosfeet]

13. Did he say Sept. 8... of which year?

[Tx4obama]

15. Thursday night is the NFL football game.

@LukeRussert
House historian says public move by Boehner to tell #Obama to change date is unprecedented. Negotiations usually happen behind closed doors

http://twitter.com/#!/LukeRussert/status/109008908319850497


Boehner is being an ass as usual.

[No Elephants]

18. Did Obama negotiate his date with Boehner behind closed doors before he announced it publicly?

NFL Game, Republican Debate. Both times to diminish the viewing audience.

Although I usually prefer "weeping yam," Boehner is, as Jon Stewart said, the world's most misguided tangerine.

But I am not understanding which standard you are applying.

[Tx4obama]

24. Admin official says the date/time of Obama address was "cleared" with GOP before it went public.

Admin official says the date/time of Obama address was "cleared" with GOP before it went public.
http://twitter.com/#!/GlennThrush/status/109010040043737088

@samsteinhp Sam Stein
Adm official confirms @GlennThrush 's tweet, says the White House ok-ayed the (9/7) date w/ boehner before asking
http://twitter.com/#!/samsteinhp/status/109012982427697152

[No Elephants]

37. Thanks. If true, Boehner should admit he okayed it.

[Missy Vixen]

17. I'll be watching football Thursday, September 8th

So will most of the United States.

It'll be interesting to see who wins on this one...

:eyes:

[No Elephants]

19. The President should because he outranks Speaker of the House.

[totodeinhere]

45. Well maybe he should have but he didn't. As usual. n/t

[obama14]

84. Outranks?

They are 2 different branches of government. Actually Boner outranks Obama when it comes to Congress and the Joint session.

Boner has to let Obama speak at a joint session. Yes, he must get permission.

[TheDebbieDee]

21. Pres. O will capitulate to Boner's wishes in 5..... 4....... 3......

Hey, I'll still be voting for Pres. O in 2012.

[ecstatic]

26. Would it kill you to be supportive just once?

why are people so quick to throw negativity into every discussion?

[ixion]

27. Because of Obama's past actions

it's not a random occurrence.

[ecstatic]

29. Those are your subjective thoughts, not fact nt

[ixion]

32. lol... I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that's a fact

no opinion. Obama has caved far more than he has stood up to the GOP.

[David Sky]

36. So true, but maybe this is the NEW Obama, the one with GUTS! Hey, I ..

can dream, can't I?

[ixion]

38. sure, dare to dream

just don't be disappointed if it doesn't come true in this case.

[ixion]

43. Dream's over

he caved. Sorry.

[RedCloud]

83. Do you know tonight's lotto numbers?

[RedCloud]

82. Check headline below, then apologize.

[totodeinhere]

46. Maybe because the negativity is justified. The poster is 100% correct. It is official.

Obama has rolled over as usual. The speech has been postponed until Thursday when almost nobody will be watching because it will be up against the kick off of the NFL season.

[RedCloud]

81. Check headline below.

[TomCADem]

41. ROFL! Blame Democrats, Give Republicans a Free Pass!

If the left can't support an effort by the President to discuss jobs, then we have already lost. Already the left is throwing its support behind the GOP on the mere timing of the speech.

[ixion]

44. No, sir.

Throwing support behind the GOP? Give me a break. :eyes:

[stockholmer]

22. Boehner is an ass, but why is Obama picking a fight over timing, he needs to pick a fight over

substantive issues (ie, uncapping SS tax, etc), and NOT CAVE IN.

This is may very well blow up in his face and give the bloody Republicans a further cause to rally together. Believe me, their first talking point will be thus:

"Obama knew for weeks (at least) known that this was a large Republican presidential debate, and is trying to shove this speech down our throats, and cut off legitimate political debates in this country."

Unfortunately, that line will resonate with with a good number of so-called independent voters, IMHO.

[toddwv]

23. Not w/o tax increases on the wealthiest.

Jay Oh Bees B4 Gee Oh Pees!

I'd make that into a bumper sticker if I thought that more than 30% of Americans would understand it...

[KamaAina]

28. Couldn't the repukes just move their debate?

4:45 in the morning would work nicely. :boring:

[mrmpa]

30. 202-456-1111-The White House's Comment Line, call it and

call it often, Monday - Friday 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Tell him not to move his speech. He is the President, those repug clowns AREN'T.

[David Sky]

35. I think this is chapter one of Obama growing a spine and Republicans..

being made to look silly, petty, and uninterested in jobs, more interested in TV ratings for themselves.


This is a BRILLIANT move by Obama and the White House. Those silly debates are totally useless and everyone should know it.

Upstage those Republican candidate fools, all of them are incompetent, egotistical, Obama can make them look like self-serving opportunists.

[Cronus Protagonist]

48. Sure, and that steaming pile of horse shit means you got a pony!

He caved, as predicted.

[plumbob]

39. Let's see. WWBD?

He'd say NO.

and WWDCD?

He'd say go fuck yourself.

Yeah, those both seem appropriate.

[PuffedMica]

40. Boehner can go pound sand. n/t

[stockholmer]

49. Boehner Fires Back at Obama Over Scheduling of Jobs Speech

Source: The National Journal

A month after they went toe-to-toe over the nation’s debt, President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, slugged it out on Wednesday over the calendar and the president’s desire to give a speech to Congress. The prize is next Wednesday night, Sept. 7.

(RELATED: Text of Obama's Letter to Boehner, Reid) http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/text-obama-s-letter-to-boehner-reid-on-joint-session-of-congress-20110831

That night was supposed to belong to the Republicans. It was to be a showcase for the eight GOP contenders for president, a chance to use two hours of national television coverage of their debate in California to bash Obama. A chance to look presidential. But with only 198 words in a letter to the leaders of Congress, Obama reminded them who is president right now.

But it took Boehner only another 268 words in his own letter http://nationaljournal.com/congress/text-boehner-s-letter-to-obama-20110831 later in the day to remind Obama that while he is president, he does not dictate the schedule of the House of Representatives. Boehner reclaimed Wednesday for the GOP, suggesting that Thursday was a better day for the commander in chief to come to the House chambers to give what the White House hopes will be the marching orders in the battle to revive a weak economy.

Noting that the House will not be in session on Wednesday until 6:30 p.m., Boehner argued there just isn’t enough time to have the president in as a guest at 8 p.m. “With the significant amount of time—typically more than three hours—that is required to allow for a security sweep of the House chamber before receiving a president,” wrote Boehner, “it is my recommendation that your address be held on the following evening, when we can ensure there will be no parliamentary or logistical impediments that might detract from your remarks.”


snip

Read more: http://www.nationaljournal.com/boehner-fires-back-at-obama-over-scheduling-of-jobs-speech-20110831

[dennis4868]

50. Boehner...

is full of shit!

[JBoy]

51. LOL. Who (other than a shiftworker) starts their workday at 6:30pm?

Are they planning to go until 2:30 in the morning, so they can get in a full 8 hour day?

[Ineeda]

52. What? Representatives are doing security sweeps now?

Lame excuse. And I believe the POTUS does have the Constitutional right to "dictate the schedule of the House of Representatives" by calling for a joint session of Congress.

[Blue Owl]

54. Boner's ready for his security sWeep, alright

n/t

[SoapBox]

53. Are there any tears yet? Cry Boner Cry!!!

BOO-HOO!

That danged Prez wants to ruin our night on the TV machine.

*snark*

[stockholmer]

55. as I stated in another thread, Boehner is an ass, but why is Obama picking a fight over timing, he

needs to pick a fight over substantive issues (ie, uncapping SS tax, etc), and NOT CAVE IN.

This is may very well blow up in his face and give the bloody Republicans a further cause to rally together. Believe me, their first talking point will be thus:

"Obama knew for weeks (at least) known that this was a large Republican presidential debate, and is trying to shove this speech down our throats, and cut off legitimate political debates in this country."

Unfortunately, that line will resonate with with a good number of so-called independent voters, IMHO.

[cstanleytech]

63. And he can counter (and continue to hammer it home hard) to

those of them that took an oath and were sworn into office as senators or members of congress that the nations business takes precedence over a minor debate political debate.

[plumbob]

68. Believe I would reply, "The Republican candidates obviously care

more about raising their individual profiles than about working on jobs, my speech topic."

I believe that line might resonate a bit myself.

[bowens43]

72. Personally , I welcome any fight.......

as long as Obama doesn't run away whimpering, with his tail tucked between his legs like has every other time he has dared show a little backbone.

[MadMaddie]

73. I think that he knew that they would balk

they have lame excuses for why they can't. It's about Jobs.....Boehner has nothing.....

[Major Hogwash]

76. Because Labor Day is traditionally the start of "beat your opponent to death with a stick" season

And President Obama has a BIG stick!

[Old Codger]

56. What should happen then

Obama should then just schedule his speech for that time on national TV without congress or maybe do it just in the senate......and piss on the debate

[mrdmk]

77. Hear, hear! Go in front of the GOP national debates from the Oval Office directly to the people!

Let the GOP Presidential Candidates have their debate unscripted. Though Shit, let them think on their collective feet!

Then come a week latter, and let the GOP have it again!

[global1]

57. So Don't Keep Me In Suspense - Did Obama Change To Thursday?.....nt

[stockholmer]

59. no response yet, I would lay 60-40 odds he changes it to Tuesday the 6th or 13th

As the article points out, Thursday is your American football season opener.

[Tx4obama]

60. Can NOT have it on Thursday. NFL kick off is Thursday evening. n/t

[former9thward]

70. He could do it earlier Thursday. NFL opening is not a national holiday.

[penndragon69]

58. Fuck you Bonner...

you TEAvangelicle FREAK !

[madamesilverspurs]

61. Raise your hand

if you believe that Boehner is all that concerned about a security sweep for Obama.

Anybody?

Bueller? Bueller?

[tblue]

62. They don't even pretend to have class.

They need to grow the eff up.

[AnnieK401]

64. More Republican BS!

This latest BS from the Retards doesn't surprise me.

[PuffedMica]

65. The President should tell the Republicans to be at the joint session of Congress

Some irrelevant Republican hate fest is not at the same level of importance as jobs for American workers.

Our National Security depends on jobs, not some insignificant political talk by a bunch of teabaggers.

[David Sky]

66. You sound like you'd make an excellent Chief of staff or Press Secretary..

Obama needs to take that attitude with Congress, especially with Republicans and Tea Baggers from now on.

[PuffedMica]

69. Caving in to Boehner is not an option

Government business conducted by the Office of the President takes precedence over private Republican campaigning. President Obama should hold the line on this one because the Republicans are going to lose.

[polmaven]

67. Not enough time for the President of the United States!

Not enough time!!! Astonishing! Absolute disrespect for the OFFICE of the President! This goes way beyond his dislike for the man.

Please, Mr. President....do not let this kind of disrespect go unacknowledged!!!!

[McCamy Taylor]

71. Tnen Obama should deliver the speech to Americans in front of a DC monument.

Or, better yet, deliver it to a session of Congress where only Dems bother to show up. Let Americans ask "Where are the Republicans?"

[Mz Pip]

74. Boo Hoo

Obama is PResident. He can pre-empt whoever and whatever he damn well pleases.

Boner is such a whiny twit.

[Major Hogwash]

75. You have more than a week to prepare Boehner. "Eat your peas!"

Open wide widdle Boehner, here comes another spoon of peas.!!

[TomCADem]

78. What happened to why wait? Its the first day Congress gets back from recess?

Amazing.

[panzerfaust]

79. "White House moves jobs speech after Boehner objects", CNN's Front Page Headline

Which more explicitly catches the spirit of it: Obama ALWAYS will cave in to the demands of the right.


Perception, Reality?
You Decide.

[RedCloud]

80. At least he was tough for a few seconds.