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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:50 PM
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Massive QE by the ECB is coming on Monday.
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 04:52 PM by roamer65
Source: Reuters

Massive purchases of Italian and Spanish gov't bonds by the ECB is coming on Monday.

Read more: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE7762PE20110807



IMHO, this is going the be the issue of the day on Monday, not our S & P downgrade.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:52 PM
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1. Recommend
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:54 PM
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2. Hope so, and hope 'world' reads this positively for U.S.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:55 PM
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3. I thought Germany was saying they werent in favor of the ECB plan?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 04:56 PM
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4. Little too much jargon there
A little help with the translation please!
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:01 PM
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6. QE = Quantitative Easing
ECB = European Central Bank.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:02 PM
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8. European Central Bank, Sir, Will Buy Spanish and Italian Treasury Bonds, In Great Quantities
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 05:02 PM by The Magistrate
This will support their price, and thwart in some measure the speculating vultures trying to profit by driving down the price.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:09 PM
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10. I know this was QE2
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 05:09 PM by dipsydoodle
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:00 PM
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5. Gold market opens in 1 minute.
Let' see where that goes.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:02 PM
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9. Up $27 at the open to $1690
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:01 PM
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7. Here's the full ECB statement
1. The Governing Council of the European Central Bank (ECB) welcomes the announcements made by the governments of Italy and Spain concerning new measures and reforms in the areas of fiscal and structural policies. The Governing Council considers a decisive and swift implementation by both governments as essential in order to substantially enhance the competitiveness and flexibility of their economies, and to rapidly reduce public deficits.

2. The Governing Council underlines the importance of the commitment of all Heads of State or Government to adhere strictly to the agreed fiscal targets, as reaffirmed at the euro area summit of 21 July 2011. A key element is also the enhancement of the growth potential of the economy.

3. The Governing Council considers essential the prompt implementation of all the decisions taken at the euro area summit. In this perspective, the Governing Council welcomes the joint commitment expressed by Germany and France today.

4. The Governing Council attaches decisive importance to the declaration of the Heads of State or Government of the euro area in the inflexible determination to fully honor their own individual sovereign signature as a key element in ensuring financial stability in the euro area as a whole.

5. It equally considers fundamental that governments stand ready to activate the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) in the secondary market, on the basis of an ECB analysis recognizing the existence of exceptional financial market circumstances and risks to financial stability, once the EFSF is operational.

6. It is on the basis of the above assessments that the ECB will actively implement its Securities Markets Program. This program has been designed to help restoring a better transmission of our monetary policy decisions taking account of dysfunctional market segments and therefore to ensure price stability in the euro area.

/... http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/blog/2011/aug/07/debt-crisis-markets-chaos-live-blog
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:55 PM
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11. Seems to be conditional on governments indemifying the ECB
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 05:55 PM by dipsydoodle
that's from later tv news on the subject here in the UK. Considered likely to throw a spanner in the works.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:06 PM
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12. I bet Germany is loving this. not
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 07:11 PM
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16. They always wanted to be Top Dog in Europe
I think they're having a bit of 'Buyer's Remorse.'
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:23 PM
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13. Several Months Ago
When Greece was going through this same thing I posted that the EU central bank needed to use quantative easing to finance the debt service. If that was the right call for Greece it certainly is also the right call for Italy and Spain.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:27 PM
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14. This is good news
it buys time. In the end the economies have to grow. And hopefully nobody will take any more advice from American investment banks.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:46 PM
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15. I thought quantitatuve easing meant printing money
:shrug:
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Fool Count Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 07:20 PM
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17. With what money do you think ECB will be buying those bonds?
Fresh from under the presses.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 07:28 PM
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18. I think it does.
As I understand it (and I'm certainly no expert) that's what was done here in the two recent QEs by the Fed.

I don't know if that's how the ECB will do it or not, but it's how Wikipedia defines QE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing
Quantitative easing (QE) is an unconventional monetary policy used by central banks to stimulate the national economy when conventional monetary policy has become ineffective. A central bank implements quantitative easing by purchasing financial assets from banks and other private sector businesses with new electronically created money.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 07:32 PM
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20. QE is just a fancy name for what they are acutally doing...
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 07:38 PM by roamer65
It is actually DEBT MONETIZATION. That name just sounds too negative...lol.

Here's how wiki explains it.

Monetizing debt
In many countries the government has assigned exclusive power to issue or print its national currency to a central bank. For example, in the USA a "federal system, composed of a central, governmental agency—the Board of Governors—in Washington, D.C., and twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks" does this.<1> The government must pay with currency already in circulation, or else finance deficits by issuing new bonds, and selling them to the public or to their central bank to acquire the necessary money. For the bonds to end up in the central bank it must conduct an open market purchase. This action increases the monetary base through the money creation process. This process of financing government spending is called monetizing the debt.<2> Monetizing debt is thus a two step process where the government issues debt to finance its spending and the central bank purchases the debt from the public. The public is left with an increased supply of base money.

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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 07:30 PM
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19. They don't even have to print it anymore.
They just type the amount they want into the computer systems and it is ready to go.
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