Gold Jumps To Record On Poor U.S. Outlook, Debt Worry ($1643.45 +23.26)

[Purveyor]

Source: REUTERS

By Frank Tang and Amanda Cooper

NEW YORK/LONDON | Tue Aug 2, 2011 12:38pm EDT

Aug 2 - (Reuters) - Gold surged more than 1 percent to all-time highs on Tuesday, as more weak U.S. economic data fueled safe-haven buying on fears a slow economy may trigger more monetary stimulus by the Federal Reserve.

Bullion appeared headed for its biggest daily gain in three months as investors also worried that the European debt crisis might spread. Silver also jumped 2.5 percent as investors perceived a growing risk of a U.S. credit rating downgrade.

A bill to raise the $14.3 trillion U.S. debt ceiling and avert a default got enough votes to pass in the Senate and was scheduled to head to President Barack Obama, to be signed into law.

Bullion has rallied some 15 percent so far this year, and has gained more than 10 percent since the end of June when the Federal Reserve's $600 billion bond-buying program ended.

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[TwilightGardener]

1. Oh, look, teabag Beckian nutjobs created their own profits with threats of

collapsing the economy.

[stockholmer]

2. Glenn Beck and Tea Baggers have as much to do with gold & silver surging as a taco stand near

Mission Control has to do with running the Space Shuttle programme.

Beck was a pimp for a disreputable gold broker, a broker who accounted for an utterly microscopic amount of total global precious metals sales. This has nothing to do with the fundamental underlying dynamics that are driving the global metals markets.

All global fiat currencies are being utterly debased and destroyed right before your eyes. Throughout history, every single fiat currency has collapsed in a violent plummet. Every one. This time will be no different.

Even If you were ONLY buying into the teeth of the manic parabolic gold bubble of January/February 1980, you would have been in the black since 2007, if you were buying in 1977, 1978, and the first half of 1979 you were ALWAYS in the black, and if buying in 1982 to 1985 (and almost all of the rest of the 1980's), you were in the black from 2005 onwards. If you had been buying from the end of 1997 up until 2005, you would have seen huge profits of over 300 to 600 percent already, just in gold. Silver is even more dramatic in its rate of return, even with the very recent pullback from $47/$49 an ounce to $40 an ounce.

Gold has increased by double digits as a percentage gained for the last 10 years in a row. Can you say the same of the NASDAQ? The Dow? The S&P? The US dollar? US Treasuries? The average US IRA? LOL! How about your paycheck? How about the value of the average American house? Not so funny, is it?


I have been long gold AND silver since 1998 and 1999 (in physically-held, allocated non-bank secure vault accounts), when the US trashed the Glass–Steagall Act and legalized derivatives under the Clinton/Rubin/Greenspan troika. I have an average gain of over well over 350%, whilst the Dow is utterly stagnant from the tech bubble crash of early 2000 till now. In fact, it is off greatly, due to inflation, and many who were crushed in the stock crash of 2008-2009 pulled out, locking in huge losses that they could have somewhat recovered in the QE 1 and QE 2 fueled bubble that is now unraveling. Check back with me in 3 or 4 years when those 350% figures are closing in on 1000+% profits.

In 1970, the average US car cost $3900 and took 114 ounces of gold to buy. In 2011, that same car is around $29,000 yet takes less than 19 ounces of gold to buy. Hello dollar debasement!

Plus, when the Fed fund rate peaked under Volcker in the middle of 1981 at 20%, the US national debt was only 1 trillion, today it is 14 times that (soon to 16.5+ times that) , and even a move of the Fed's Fund Rate (it is now and has near zero% since the 2008 crisis) up to only 5% or 6% (hardly the 15-20%+ that the PIIGS are paying) would mean well over a trillion in debt service payments over just ONE year. If/when the funds rate does double digits, say hello to $1.5 to 2 trillion a YEAR in debt service payments alone.

If you are holding long term US treasuries and dollar-based assets (as 95% of asset-holding US citizens do) you will be the one gasping soon, unfortunately. Bill Gross of PIMCO (director of the biggest bond fund in the world) pulled completely out of ALL US debt-based securities over 3 months ago. I suggest you do the same.

[Purveyor]

3. Closed at around $1658.40 up $38.21 or 2.36% eom

[roamer65]

4. They will announce QE3 soon and the currency crisis will begin.

[Divine Discontent]

5. that price is absolutely ridiculous. such a tiny bit of mineral being "worth" that much is comical.

[NewGuyDD]

6. the value of gold is fairly constant...

the value of paper currency is what is changing.

how much do you think a tiny piece of paper with some printing on it is "worth"

[Divine Discontent]

7. welcome to DU, glad I could inspire your first post.

to answer your question - I'd rather have a garden... ;)

[Odin2005]

10. That's RW BS, Enjoy your stay, troll.

[NewGuyDD]

11. i don't get it

whats with the right vs left when talking about gold. i realize there's alot of right wing crazies and their end of times insanity drag gold into their madness, but i'm just talking about how printing money causes its value to decline. there's no ideology involved.

I've been a coin collector for 40 years, i enjoy the hobby. The fact i've made some money on gold certainly doesn't make me right-wing.

[barb162]

8. People are afraid when they buy gold

and there's a lot of fearful people out there these days.

[roomfullofmirrors]

9. you're looking at it all wrong. it's comical that the dollar is worth that little.

tragically comical.

[Blue_Tires]

12. interesting...if i ever had $$$$ for gold, that is...