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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:16 PM
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Pentagon in cross hairs of debt ‘trigger’
Source: The Washington Post

The prospect of $600 billion in additional defense cuts over the next decade is enough to make Pentagon generals wince and to compel the U.S. military to make big changes to its global strategy. But the cuts can be made without gutting the current force, defense budget analysts said.

The White House already has ordered the Pentagon to come up with about $400 billion in savings over the next 12 years, a reduction that would slow the growth in defense spending to about the current rate of inflation.

The larger and more painful cuts of an additional $600 billion would be triggered only if Republicans and Democrats cannot come to an agreement on a second round of spending cuts in the next four months.

“You could reasonably make those cuts as long as you were willing to rethink our military strategy, not allow for any sacred cows and cut ruthlessly,” said Todd Harrison, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, an influential defense think tank with close ties to the Pentagon.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pentagon-in-cross-hairs-of-debt-trigger/2011/08/01/gIQAhSt9nI_story.html
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:22 PM
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1. Well building a 117 of these is over the top..
Edited on Mon Aug-01-11 10:23 PM by Historic NY
there aren't that many submarines in the water.....to detect that aren't already known.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/boeing-tapped-to-replace-117-navy-anti-sub-planes-2011-01-25

Another Aircraft Carrier well you tell me.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:49 PM
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5. Seems like Boeing and Northrop/Grumman
Could build some pretty sweet high-speed rail cars for that pile of boodle.....
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 03:54 AM
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11. Not that many subs, but it's a bloody big ocean.
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BigDemVoter Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:26 PM
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2. Yeah right. . .
Like that will fucking ever happen.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:27 PM
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3. Out of an annual budget of $700 billion
Ten years of cuts at $60 billion a year doesn't hardly dent their budget at all, and gives the Pentagon plenty of time to restore the prospective cuts. One terroristic attack, either real, foiled or imagined, and we'll be right back to a defense budget with daily expenditures approaching and then exceeding $2 billion.

We won't be "rethinking" any strategies.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:33 PM
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4. Bullshit !
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 12:41 PM
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15. You're right. Their cuts are 50 bilion LESS then they were
scheduled to be. (Heard this am on Democracy Now!)
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 11:05 PM
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6. Is that 600 billion total
because its a sick joke if thats all they are cutting or is the goal to reduce it so the defense budgets cut so we are spending 200 billion per year in 10 years rather than the 800+ billion per year we are spending now?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 11:55 PM
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7. It's a "sick joke", then.
The grand bargain fell through, only smaller cut targets were agreed to by everyone at the table.... so, using your numbers, over ten years, instead of 8 trillion (800 billion a year, over ten years) being spent.... 7.4 trillion will be spent.

Same thing with other spending, which is why the hyperventilation is a bit odd.

When it's applied to the pentagon, it's so small as to be a "sick joke", but if it's to doctors charging for bunions, it's an immoral attack on the very fabric of our society.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 12:41 AM
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8. There have been things allocated by Congress that the military said they didn't want
But because they benefitted some congresspersons constituency they (congress) wouldn't cut it.
Maybe now they will
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Proletariatprincess Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 01:30 AM
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9. Sounds like chump change compared to defense spending....
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 01:56 AM
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10. Two easy cuts - Fatherland Security and any secret projects
America can't afford to be pouring money down black holes. It's one thing to debate a weapon system that we actually have data on - we can make reasonable decisions about what services it can and can't provide. Buying a pig in a poke as an intelligence product has already repeatedly proved to be a bad idea.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:16 AM
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12. They'll never get 1 red cent cut from the MIC:
The Teabag contingent will see to that: "Why don't you support our Troops/Why don't you love America/you're a Muslim-socialist-whatever/DEMS are weak on Defense/etc., etc., etc.." You can see this coming, not even from a mile away, but from fucking outerspace.

"Democrats," now coming pre-folded.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 12:24 PM
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13. "Significant" Pentagon cuts?
I'll believe that when I see it. (Quotes are mine, not from article.)

Too much money is made by well placed war whores in/around DC for that to happen, so lets just say I'm skeptical.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 12:33 PM
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14. "a reduction that would slow the growth in defense spending to about the current rate of inflation."
That's a "reduction" only in the criminals' dictionary.

Meanwhile, Social Security doesn't even get the current rate of inflation any more.
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