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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 08:04 AM Original message |
Critic of Venezuela's Chavez sentenced for remarks |
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Itchinjim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hugo is an asshole. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
95. +1 -- succinctly put, as well. nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
106. Yup. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
127. Yep... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #127 |
136. Social democracies in Latin America have done the same things, quicker, and more equitibly. |
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Ash_F (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #136 |
163. Well said, but be careful who you support. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:35 AM Response to Reply #163 |
165. I'm not a Venezuelan, therefore I don't support anyone there. |
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Ash_F (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:41 AM Response to Reply #165 |
166. Read a little about their history and you will know they changed very much. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:22 AM Response to Reply #166 |
167. Oh lordy, Paz is horrible, I am not defending him at all! |
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spanza (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Wait. No one's defending a guy |
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BenzoDia (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. Is there more to this story? Can you really be convicted of spreading lies in Venezuela? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. if the government says its a lie you can n/t |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. This story is absurdly thin. |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Will you condemn Chavez if he goes to prison? |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Since the reporter's story is thin as a cheesclothe I would have to |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Why should Venezuelan courts be criticized for upholding Venezuelan law? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. ummmm.....its the law thats the problem. surely even you see that??? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Baloney. That's your biased frame. I'd say when tv stations can stage coups |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. good for you. I say criticism of the government and speaking out makes a health society |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Criticism of the government is not the same as spreading panic |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. how about that Ven is a haven for drug traffickers, you know the reason the guy was sentenced |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. The TV station is precisely the issue. n/t |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The TV Station is not at question here. Alvarez Paz is. |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. They didn't convict the TV station |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
63. LOL |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 05:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
102. Stalin and Putin couldn't have said it better. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
81. We have laws here that are a problem. Is that Obama's fault? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #81 |
92. Did Obama sign them by decree? I know Bush used his executive orders to change policy. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
128. How many laws has Chavez 'signed by decree'? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #128 |
137. Why didn't he deny this totalitarian law by decree? |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 05:44 AM Response to Reply #81 |
101. Yes... if he uses a bad law to imprison someone unjustly. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #101 |
126. Opinions are always easy, everyone has one. |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. So now your down to splitting hairs about who created the law? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. So, you really don't have anything after all. |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Nice dancing with you. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Bradley Manning was jailed in accordance with US law - you ok with that? nt |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. No. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. There is nothing OK about either case. nt |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. As long as it's not US law, and as long as it's as totalitarian as it can get, it's "Good Law." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. No it isn't, they have used these tactics in the past to stop candidates from running for office. |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Well, since you say so. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:07 AM Response to Reply #74 |
91. Would you like a link? They arbitratily, administratively, deny people from running... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #91 |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Indeed you can |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. You can in the U.K. too. |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Unfortunately, the short answer is "YES" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Sad for the rich wing nuts who own the media that they can't tell the people |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. They didn't. The Army told the people that the president had resigned. nt |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
85. oh, sure. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #85 |
113. The general who announced Chavez's resignation, Lucas Rincon, was later promoted by Chavez |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. So? |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. So he's the one who should be punished. Why was he promoted instead? |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Maybe Chavez felt he had atoned. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Being able to forgive your enemies is one thing. Promoting them is a different one. nt |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. It's my guess that the general was under the gun, literally. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #123 |
153. Indeed, it is your "guess". nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #153 |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #155 |
156. No, you're just making noise |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #155 |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. What does that have to do with saying that Venezuela is a drug haven? nt. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. There's always more to the weekly anti-Chavez propaganda |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. Yes. It's not been forcefully implemented because it can backfire very easily. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. Anti-Chavez lies. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. And you base this sweeping statement on what??? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Everything the Corporate Media says about Chavez is a lie. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Venezuelan State News Agency. It's called AVN |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
79. ??? |
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classysassy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
53. Our right wing nuts |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
108. So |
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KarmakazeNZ (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #108 |
162. I guess you must be near rioting over this then: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
107. Venezuela Analysis chimes in... |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
10. Source: Venezuelan State news agency |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. thanks for that. incredible. n/t |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. he did this on TV too. Meanwhile our torture worshipers are free to blab about it. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Here's a smaller version of that photo: |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. Merci beaucoup |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
18. Too bad we don't have a law that says it's illegal to |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. We have a little thing called the First Ammendment. n/t |
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sabo_tabby (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. The Social Contract is not a Suicide Pact... |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. No we don't. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Untruths are not dangerous or obscene speech, and therefore are protected. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. If a station advertises itself as news, and then tells lies, |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. If a station has an individual on its channel and that individual tells what is considered a lie... |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. I am advocating that television news |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. You wouldn't put them in jail, but you'd punish them, so you're somewhere in between. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Fines. License suspension. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:45 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Politics and other things are not governed by objective truth, it's always subjective. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #94 |
111. Sigh... |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Admit it. You just don't know how to support such a reactionary law |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #114 |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. and if you say the truth but the government call it a lie as the case is here??? n/t |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #115 |
120. 2-5 years of prison says the law you support. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #114 |
135. Was Chavez the one to implement that law? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Obama doesn't have decree powers, and therefore cannot control laws. Chavez does. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Wrong, the US president absolutely has decree powers. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. That's absurdly false, executive powers are not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #140 |
144. No, you show me where it is not. You are the one claiming he has |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Do you know what rule by decree is? It is power to create law. There is almost no limit on the laws. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #144 |
151. Executive orders only apply to Federal executive agencies, not to the citizenry |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
129. Actually |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #111 |
134. I'm afraid you don't know me at all. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 02:08 AM Response to Reply #76 |
96. I'm with you. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #96 |
118. Obama lied to us. He said what he needed to say to get elected. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
142. Oh, please. He doesn't have his eye on YOU, so you're going to take your little ball and go home. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 06:53 AM Response to Reply #142 |
149. Don't you dare try to bully me. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #149 |
152. Right back atcha--and I don't "do" tactics and I certainly could not be |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. Thank you! |
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KarmakazeNZ (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #142 |
160. Obama didn't lie? |
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KarmakazeNZ (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
159. Fox is entitled by law to lie. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 02:10 AM Response to Reply #75 |
97. VOTE--with your remote. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
125. Of course it bothers me, but any remedy against it would do more harm than good IMO. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
124. Sorry for the typo. I usually spell check but I must have forgotten to. n/t |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. +a number that is too big to have a name |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. You mean like saying Social Security checks might not go out on Aug. 3rd? nt |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
64. You'd need to amend the constitution for that, and dramatically modify the first amendment. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. I fully support the 1st Ammendment, |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. +1 |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. K&R #4 for, of *course*!1 n/t |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
33. I wish we could do that to FOX news, every time they lie. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
37. US progressives support such law? 2 years of prison for saying those words? |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Progressives don't support such law... |
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sabo_tabby (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. The only thing the fat cats and bosses understand is naked force |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. So what exactly are you advocating? |
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sabo_tabby (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That presumes they get the white house back... |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Sure but, |
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sabo_tabby (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #50 |
86. We could put all of your 1 thru 3 in jail but that's like an Eskimo Roll.... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. "Look what it took to get social justice for the Venezuelans."? |
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sabo_tabby (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
82. This was a step in the right direction... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 02:45 AM Response to Reply #82 |
100. "they rise up with one voice"... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
69. What social justice are you talking about? Poverty reduction is more effective in social democracy. |
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sabo_tabby (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. Still a long way to go... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #83 |
89. No, they don't, studies have shown time and time again that non-populist regimes fare better. |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. They are not progressives. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. Ministry of Truth. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 02:11 AM Response to Reply #37 |
98. Well said. nt |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
51. Chavez-bots and Obama-bots vs. Chavez-bashers and Obama-bashers. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Well, I don't see too many OPs on Venezuela from 'Chavezbots' |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. What is anti-Latin America about pointing out Venezuela's speech laws are inadequate? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Do a little research on our policies towards Latin America. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:55 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I am fully aware of our policies, and I don't like them any more than I like anti-speech laws. |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #84 |
105. "Their laws are not our business, are they?" |
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KarmakazeNZ (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #105 |
161. The people you are talking about... |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
109. This OP specifically |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. The key difference being is that some of us recognize good things Chavez has done. |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
58. Unrec for dishonest headline |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. What he did was equivalent to the remarks you hear every day on TV here. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. his remarks weren't even false in the first place and the charges brought were because of his |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #58 |
104. LOL... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
73. Just so we're clear, this law covers all media speech, including on the internet. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
80. Is the UN's World Drug Report 2010 a credible source about Venezuelan narcotrafficking? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Venezuela propaganda is akin to the Ministry of Truth, this guy was arrested so that he couldn't run |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 02:17 AM Response to Reply #80 |
99. Whoever wrote that better stay the hell outta Venezuela! |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 07:32 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Zorro will be arrested if he enters Venezuela n/t |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #99 |
131. If they cut off his penis, I'm sure you will be there making up excuses. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. Whose penis? Chavez's? |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #141 |
143. I hope |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #141 |
146. You must be a unicyclist...with all that backpeddaling. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 01:13 AM Response to Reply #146 |
147. Reading is fundamental. So's comprehension. Do try it. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
148. It gets better: Supreme Court prelim. hearing on impeachment of Capriles (another Pres. candidate): |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
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KarmakazeNZ (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-17-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
158. Considering the US has made it clear that any nation harbouring terrorists will be targetted... |
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Ash_F (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #158 |
164. Yeah, odds are that if FOX news had took to that level against Obama(no they haven't), |
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spanza (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #164 |
169. Globovision is a local news channel with like 5% of the ratings... |
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