McConnell: no real deficit deal until Obama is gone

[IDemo]

Source: CBS news

The Senate's top Republican said Tuesday that he did not see a way for Republicans and Democrats to come to agreement on meaningful deficit reduction as long as President Obama remains in office.

"After years of discussions and months of negotiations, I have little question that as long as this president is in the Oval Office, a real solution is probably unattainable," Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said in remarks on the Senate floor.

The remarks come as negotiations between Republicans and Democrats intensify on long-term deficit reduction ahead of a looming deadline on how much the United States can legally borrow.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and many economists have warned of economic catastrophe if the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling is not raised before August 2.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20078766-503544.html

[xchrom]

1. shut up, mcconnell, you fuck wad. nt

[tclambert]

74. If a Republican wins the White House, the deficit agreement will be to let it grow unchecked,

and with no further complaints.

[truth2power]

85. If I had a dollar for every time that thought has occurred to me in the past few months...

Just like Boner talking about jobs, jobs, jobs during his campaign. Do you hear him say anything about jobs now? No.

The Repugs and the DINOs are demagogues and they depend on Americans having the short term memory of a gnat.

[LaurenG]

2. Or maybe until McConnell is gone

He ruins his own political chances each time he speaks. He's got that teabagging jargon down pat doesn't he, fortunately most r's despise the teabaggers.

[IDemo]

5. each time he speaks he sounds like a bullfrog gargling pebbles

and makes about as much sense.

[indepat]

16. Dumbfounded that the good people of KY re-elected this pile of

(fill in the blank). :patriot:

[atreides1]

8. I doubt it

We are talking about Kentucky here, the same fools that gave us Rand Paul!

I don't see No Chin Mitch going anywhere!

[oldhippydude]

20. when is mitch up for reelection?

I agree we probably have him for life.. but I'm curious..most senate seats tend to be like supreme court justices, there can be sea changes in the electorate, but the power amassed in multiple 6 year terms, makes removal problematical..

[era veteran]

43. Watch that fool shit

We worked damn hard last time to beat Mitchie and if the Goddamn DNC would have got off some cash we would have beat that rotten bastard.

[tsuki]

21. Mitch “Woo Pig Sooie” McConnell is from the welfare state of Kentucky.

He's set for life.

[truthisfreedom]

3. So they give up?

That's essentially what he's saying. Without an agreement, they must concede that since he's the President of the United States and is still in charge, they have to wait until his term is finished before they go back to driving our country into the ditch.

[FreakinDJ]

6. So they raise the Debt Cap with No Cuts ?

is that what I'm reading

if that is the case then RATpubliCONs just folded

[newspeak]

27. Jaysus, I just love the hypocrisy!

The repugs care as much about the deficit as Reagan and Little Boots who created massive deficit. No, what repugs care about is any and all who make profit at the expense of labor and killing any social program that may help the worthless, unwashed masses. I just feel their concern.:sarcasm:

[Fire1]

33. And this mindset may just back fire on their asses. n/t

[Demeter]

4. Wait that long, and there won't be any country left

Maybe that's the plan...

[Drale]

If there is no country left,

that means there is going to be no laws and I can take my anger out on these terrorist republican right? (I'm only joking but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who would not be joking.)

[Demeter]

56. That's About What We can expect

of course, the gun owners will have a distinct advantage...

[tridim]

7. Time for a recall, that statement is insane.

[No Elephants]

12. I don't know of a way to recall U.S. Senator, but he'd probably be re-elected anyway.

[RBInMaine]

9. So for anyone bitching about Obama, HERE is your alternative. Happy with that?

[No Elephants]

14. False dichotomy.

[RBInMaine]

22. Not at all. An absolute CHOICE. Make yours.

[oldhippydude]

26. that what Mitch has been saying all along

nothing else matters, hes said that on a number of occasions..

[jaxx]

19. This should make every Democrat mad.

The chinless wonder comes right out and says he's hijacking the USA until PBO is no longer president.

[awoke_in_2003]

42. Here is an alternative spin...

why are democrats expected to compromise with people like that? Sounds like the only compromise Mitch will accept is total capitulation.

[guruoo]

48. Exactly. nt

[frylock]

49. we've known for years that the repubs have no intention of working with obama..

he's the one pushing for bipartisanship DESPITE the repubs flat-out stating that they're only out to sabotage him. obama continues to look like a damn fool playing with these fuckstains.

[Doctor_J]

65. And anyone who posts a reply like this is inviting the prez to concede everything

after all, he'll be better than Bachmann no matter what.

[Dawgs]

83. Ah, the lesser of two evils argument.

Now I feel so much better about our future.

:eyes:

[whosinpower]

10. This is what I have been trying to get across

You cannot rationalize with irrational people. The GOP are irrational.

[hedgehog]

55. We Democrats know the Republicans are irrational and/or in the pockets

of the Koch brothers and company. The problem is that too many people out there don't understand that fact. I think Obama had to show them the Republicans in all their glory.

[No Elephants]

11. So, now we know their Presidential campaign strategy. "Just get rid of Obama

and all America's financial problems will go away--oh, and jobs will miraculously appear. Get your pipe dreams here, America."

[targetpractice]

18. Scary... I'm more convinced they poisoned the well on purpose...

Once it became clear in 2008 that Obama was going to win, they blew up the economy to make the country ungovernable. Then they just had to sit back and wait it out... They are playing for the long term... that "permanent Republican majority."

[Doctor_J]

66. of course they did

which is why it was so stupid for the president to give them ANYTHING.

[elleng]

36. Not just their Presidential campaign strategy, which we've known,

but their 'governing' strategy. NOTHING of substance possible to be done while a Dem, particularly PrezO, is in office.

Dems should go with BIG POSTERS/FLYERS/ADs on this, REPUGS SAY THEY CAN'T GOVERN (small print, while Barack Obama is in office.)

[Fozzledick]

13. No real deficit reduction is possble until the republicans are gone

So what else is new?

[zipplewrath]

15. so much for bipartisanship

It would seem that Obama has been put firmly on notice that the GOP has not interest what so ever in his bipartisan efforts. Not sure what took them so long to openly state it, most of us knew this for years.

I fully expect Obama to continue "negotiating with himself" though.

[still_one]

17. It could not be clearer, this is a referendum on Social Security and Medicare. The stupidity of the

American public does not give me any confidence that the people will not end up voted to destroy both programs

[kstewart33]

23. What a pathetic, despicable man. nt

[The Stranger]

24. The Republicans are committing national economic suicide in order to spite the Democrats.

It is like dealing with a suicide bomber. They have no hesitation to go down and take everyone with them.

[elleng]

40. Not to spite the Dems, for repuke (+white people's) power.

Yes, they are willing to take the nation, and the world, down with them.

[JEB]

25. If you are interested

in spending your "golden" years sleeping under a bridge and begging for food and healthcare, then by all means vote for scum like Mitch.

[Hubert Flottz]

28. If the GOP crashes the world economy it will be the end of their

bullshit forever. And they know it. It will be 100% their fault.

[Doctor_J]

69. They have caused the 2nd Great Depression without any repercussions

Why would you make a ridiculous claim like this?

[Hubert Flottz]

73. Because what we've seen so far is going to be nothing compared

with what is to come, IMHO.

[Doctor_J]

76. Anarchy is the best our side can hope for

should worse come to worst, as you predict, it will be blamed on us ad the Dems. At some point I'd hoped we would decide to die on our feet instead of living on our knees, but we never summoned the courage to fight back.

[FarLeftFist]

29. JUST RAISE THE FUCKING TAXES ON THE RICH ALREADY!

Everyone is scratching their heads wondering why we had money under Clinton (with higher tax rates) and a deficit under Bush (with lower taxes). This isn't fucking rocket science people, what more evidence do you need. Bunch of fucking neanderthals we're dealing with. The rich have done REMARKABLY well over the past 30 years, they can afford to help draw down the deficit. The super-wealthy didn't just have a recession, they're still fucking yachting while hitting on their secretaries. But god forbid the middle class family member gets stricken with cancer, their entire world comes crashing down. And they can't even afford the treatments, they have to hold fucking bake sales for chemotherapy before putting their house up for sale to save a family members life. America I know you're better than this. The rich have the most to lose if anarchy ever came to the U.S., so they should be paying more. The middle class won't be fighting the middle class, they will be scaling the fences of your gated communities.

[harun]

30. Their plan to fix the economy, get rid of Obama. Wow the GOP has

dumber campaign slogans than the Dem's.

The Dem's is "We aren't as bad as the GOP".

[toddwv]

53. We've seen their ideas concerning "job creation"...

Ban abortion.
Charge women with murder for having a miscarriage.
More "defense" spending.
Deregulate banks even more.
Cut taxes on the rich.
Raise taxes on the middle-class
Destroy Medicare
Stop gays from marrying.
etc.

[harun]

64. GOP is the party of wealth expansion of the Upper Class, nothing they do

is for creating jobs. Everything they do is for expanding the wealth and power of the Upper Class.

How they figured out a way to get poor people in the South to vote for them is beyond me. I guess fear of teh gay trumps economics for them.

[russspeakeasy]

31. Hopefully, Mitch will be gone first.

A waste of skin.

[jwirr]

32. That is their ransom letter. We have known that they have been holding

the country hostage for some time now. This then is their ransom price. I for one hope he calls their bluff.

[Solly Mack]

34. Typical republican game plan. Our way with our guy or nothing.

Now, republican voters read that quote and hear Obama is being difficult. A person with a working brain reads it and knows it is just SOP for the GOP - their way or they hurt the country. It's the role they play - except for them, it isn't a role...they mean it. They will damage the country to protect their moneybags. Most politicians will protect their moneybags - some will try and mitigate this desire with some actual governing every now and then.

Add to that - this time around it isn't just the typical theatre of Democratic Party v. the GOP...you can't discount racism...because a good deal of the objection to Obama (from the right) is his skin hue. This isn't just Donkey v Elephant....or left ideology v. right ideology....a fundamental nerve was struck in the GOP with the election of a black man....so every battle becomes epic because they aren't just losing to the Democrats...they are losing to a skin hue they see as inferior...Obama should be serving their drinks and not serving them notice.

A lot of politics is little more than kabuki theatre. A good deal of which is more staged than wrestling....still, the present theatrics is swimming in the undercurrent of racism.

I'm not always pleased with President Obama...but I never forget this aspect when looking at what is going on in the government.

I write this because McConnell has always struck me as someone on the right that rejects the notion that a darker skin hue can hold more power than he does. I think the message beneath his words - "I have little question that as long as this president is in the Oval Office..." - isn't about Obama's politics - it's about the color of his skin.

[bvar22]

35. Now Obama needs to hang this squarely aroubnd the Republicans neck,

like Bill Clinton did.

(WOW. I never thought I would be using Centrist Bill as an example for leadership.


Who will STAND and FIGHT for THIS American Majority?
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

[elleng]

41. Yes

[deminks]

37. They will make America fail until the 'Black Man' is out of office.

Seems pretty clear to me. As Mittens said, they are going to "hang him with the misery index".

This is just as outrageous as Murdoch.

[cottonseed]

38. We're working on it Mitch! ~ DU

[awoke_in_2003]

39. these are the types of people...

we are supposed to compromise with?

[Chipper Chat]

44. Here's what I'd like to do to McConnell (you will enjoy this):

http://www.selfcontrolfreak.com/slaan.html
(just move the pointer near this guy's head)

[Volaris]

45. He is betting that the American People have made a family values-type judgement....

"Which do you hate MORE America? Your selves, your neighbors, your economic future, and your VERY hard-won status as a world leader among Nation-States....OR, having a black man in the White House?"

He is betting EVERYTHING on his tendency to believe that the rest of America is just as racist, hateful, and afraid as HE is.

Fuck him, I hope he loses, and takes the entirety of the "Christian" Conservative, "Economic" Conservative, "Military" Conservative (and Rush Limbaugh) movement down with him. This IS NOT about having a difference of opinion on the best way to govern a Country. This about hatred for one different (and an inability to see that smart Republicans threw Junior under the bus YEARS ago), PURE AND SIMPLE.

BE AFRAID, you miserable, racist, self-hating pig. The rest of us are coming for you. AGAIN.

And, as a second thought on all this, I kind of feel bad for Mr. Speaker. I don't believe him to be NEARLY the racist fuck pig that McConnell is; he is, on the other hand, the poor bastard that has to tell McConnell and the rest of the racists to go get bent, and he is in over his head on that one. THIS TIME, I wouldn't hold it against the guy one little bit if he needed a long pull off a stiff drink, and a cry session.

Peace to ALL whose futures are threatened by these little men, and their need to make history reflect the WORST things in themselves, rather than the best. And BE NOT AFRAID.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

46. Whoa there. This was their game, they started it. Now that they're not winning they want to quit?

I may be seriously missing something here, but in politics once you create a great crisis game you're obligated to at least give the illusion of having played the game to its conclusion. Which doesn't mean picking up their ball and stomping off refusing to play anymore because they're not getting their way.

I'm interested in seeing how Republicans in less secure seats respond to McConnell's childish pout. Not every Republican can afford to throw a tantrum and run away crying how it's no fun playing politics now that a Republican isn't the POTUS anymore.

[neoralme]

47. I wonder if we could get Seal Team Six to visit Kentucky?

[wilt the stilt]

50. Let me translate- we won't work with a n*gger

plain and simple. i wish he had the balls to say it.

[The Second Stone]

51. Obama was elected by all of us

McConnell and Boehner were only elected from one state and district. They don't speak for us, they speak for political power seekers. Obama does speak for all of us in an elected system.

[nyy1998]

52. So we'll have to wait 5 years then, eh Mitch? nt

[MadMaddie]

82. Yes! When President Obama is elected we should send

Mitch mail everyday reminding his ass that they lost....again...

[yourout]

54. What a vile piece lof shit.

I can not wait till he is gone.

[eringer]

57. C'MON OBAMA ORDER THE TREASURY TO SELL GOLD NOW!!!!!

Screw these people.

[plumbob]

58. If Mitch is crying, I'm laughing.

Truly evil and despicable opportunist and apologist for genetically inferior heirs.

[burf]

59. So why doesn't one of the villagers

from the dreaded "liberal media" ask Mitch how these spending cuts are going to affect is fellow Kentuckians?

The chart below shows government payment account for about 25% of personal income in KY. Gee Mitch, how do you think this is gonna play back home? Same question for the rest of these so called deficit hawks. It seems a lot of the states with the loudest whinners seem to get a significant share of Fed money for SNAP and other government programs.



http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/07/11/business/economy/11transfer.html?ref=economy

[Enrique]

60. no deal til a white president n/t

[Enrique]

61. where's our democratic attack dogs?

who's going to make McConnell pay for this outrageous statement?

[CoffeeCat]

62. The reality is...Republicans don't care about deficits...

They've spent us all into this problem. Their sick, neocon wars have siphoned trillions
from this country. Republicans have also ensured that behemoth companies like GE, the
oil companies pay no taxes.

They only care about deficits when they want to dismantle programs that help ordinary
Americans. There's only a problem when they're trying to 'drown government in a bathtub'.

The Republicans are spending, warmongering, lying thieves--who use deficits to socially
engineering ordinary Americans into devastating socioeconomic positions.

They are liars and manipulators--and if ONE (just one!!!) Democrat would point out these
obvious and glaring hypocrisies, maybe something might change.

[CoffeeCat]

63. The reality is...Republicans don't care about deficits...

They've spent us all into this problem. Their sick, neocon wars have siphoned trillions
from this country. Republicans have also ensured that behemoth companies like GE, the
oil companies pay no taxes.

They only care about deficits when they want to dismantle programs that help ordinary
Americans. There's only a problem when they're trying to 'drown government in a bathtub'.

The Republicans are spending, warmongering, lying thieves--who use deficits to socially
engineering ordinary Americans into devastating socioeconomic positions.

They are liars and manipulators--and if ONE (just one!!!) Democrat would point out these
obvious and glaring hypocrisies, maybe something might change.

[newspeak]

80. yeah, and every time I see those so called patriots

with their tattered flags waving on the auto, and those purple heart band aids, I think you are no american. Any party that holds the whole country as hostage, like little bullies, are not american. Any party that gives preference to global corporations and the very wealthy over the majority of the american people who are suffering, are not american.

I just watched Rachel and she said that the deficit negotiations, the repugs have gotten over eighty percent what they wanted, and they're still not happy. Anyone wondering what damaging eighty percent they got? Because anything that these sociopaths legislate spells bad news to most americans.

I'm starting to think that they should just give us all a choice, then teabaggers will be happy. We can pay taxes so we can have medicare for all, SS, education, libraries and great highways. And the teabaggers don't have to pay taxes, but they have to pay individually for each service they use. Then they can pay for private corporate schools, corporate health insurance, and if they want to utilize those things that are public, then they'll have to pay a higher fee each time they use something that's public. Because I'd rather have a choice than corporatizing the shite out of everything and allowing seniors, children and disabled to be victims of the most unconscionable arseholes on earth!

[Doctor_J]

67. And this is the guy who Obama thinks he has to negotiate with

:mad:

[woolldog]

68. Repubs are way overplaying their hand.

As fierce a critic of Obama as I've been, when I read garbage like that from McConnel, it makes me want to make sure and vote for Obama and every other democrat I can in November.

[Doctor_J]

70. You've been asleep for 18 years?

If I had a dollar for every time anyone on our side, "they've gone too far this time", I wouldn't need to work any more.

[woolldog]

71. I have no idea what you're trying to say

(no offense)

[Doctor_J]

77. Because every new outrage by the Repukes since Limpballs took over the country

has been met with, "The American people are going to punish this overreach", and still the far, far right continues to run the country. So your "they've overplayed their hand" statement is ridiculous.

[ThoughtCriminal]

72. McConnell - quit, go home and let the adults handle it

OK? It should be pretty obvious by now that emulating a 2-year old is not a viable way to run a government.

[Critters2]

75. That's really waht this is about...they hate Obama, and won't agree to anything he suggests.

McConnell rarely tells the truth, so mark this on your calendar.

[marasinghe]

78. so, a fucking racist piece of shit is the official Senate Republican Leader.

[unkachuck]

79. "...a real solution is probably unattainable..."

....hey mitch-the-bitch, do you mean a 'real solution' like Republicans brought us during the eight years of chimp-rule?

[MadMaddie]

81. If it isn't any more clear McConnell and his ilk hate the country.

[rucky]

84. And this is all we need to know. n/t

[yellowcanine]

86. So Mitch McConnell rejects the choice of the American People. Good to know.

Says more about you than Obama Mitch.