State warns half a million Minnesotans they could lose government benefits

[harvey007]

Source: Star Tribune

More than half a million Minnesotans could lose government benefits providing them low-cost food, housing and medical care as of July 1 due to the looming state government shutdown.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/wellness/123842044.html

[Zoeisright]

1. That's repukes for you. Killing as many people as they can.

Fucking assholes. They should be banned from this country because they're a threat. Oh, and if there IS a shutdown, it will cost FAR more than just letting government run.

[cstanleytech]

7. Wait, didnt you get the memo? This is just the new GOP national heathcare plan of Die Faster.

[Odin2005]

2. Oh God, Oh God, Oh God, Oh God...

:scared:

[NickB79]

21. Ditto.

I'm not on any affected programs, but my mother-in-law is a state employee. She's been told they might resort to IOU's rather than paychecks if things don't improve! If this crap keeps up, she might be moving in with us before this is all over.

[wellstone dem]

3. There will be suicides by people who get these notices.

That's what happened in the 80s when social security sent out notices to people that their benefits were being cut.

[IamK]

10. Social Darwinism

[Javaman]

15. Forced social darwinism. nt

[jwirr]

4. Both of my representatives to the MN legislature are good Democrats.

What can I do to help put the pressure on those un-Christian bastards? My daughter's life depends on Medicaid and she lives in a foster home. Also if they shut it down can we hit the streets? I feel like walking like an Egyptian or maybe more like a Wisconsinite.

Edited to ask, can one sue the reps who vote to shut down a government for the damages they cause?

[wellstone dem]

13. Call Legal Aid, and ask if they can help.

nt

[jwirr]

18. That is an option that can be done only after the fact. But you can

bet that I will sue them if it gets that bad. The Minnesota I have lived in for 30+ years would never let people die or even go without basics. I think we went a little crazy in 2010.

[defendandprotect]

5. But Obama has made sure that the rich had their tax cuts extended --

sigh --

[defendandprotect]

6. -- and there's no MEDICARE FOR ALL --

nor any way to work on cost saving on Big Pharma prescriptions --

[cstanleytech]

8. You have a point or atleast

you would if Obama was His Majesty Barack Obama but since its President Barack Obama he can only sign into law what the congress and senate pass and send him and he cant make a royal decree on whatever he wants, bit sad at times (like this) but thats the way it is.

[defendandprotect]

11. Sadly, no -- Obama made back room deals with Big Pharma and Private H/C industry ...

and if you want to see it I can repeat for you Koch/DLC Rahm "crowing" about

their having "PRESERVED THE PRIVATE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY" -- !!

And there are NY Times articles on the back room deals --

[cstanleytech]

14. He may or may not have had meetings with them

but my main point is that they are all in this together as congress and the senate still have to pass such things before anything the president wants can go into effect because he isnt a king.

[defendandprotect]

22. Thre's no question that Obama made back room deals with H/C industry/Big Pharma....

and it was the obvious aim of the administration to do so --

Obama locked it in --

Who takes "single payer" off the table except Obama and Dem leadership?

[cstanleytech]

30. And the dems were to pull off this miracle of passing

a single payer system (hopefully income based but thats my opinion) with the republicans stonewalling it how exactly?

[defendandprotect]

31. Well, you might look to the many rallies the Dems held for MEDICARE FOR ALL ... ?

Corporate money buys a lot of silence and cooperation on both sides of the aisle -- !!

Especially when the DLC is funded by Koch Bros!

And DLC/Rahm is one of the first moved into the White House!

76% and more of the population backed MEDICARE FOR ALL -- and the numbers were still growing.

Even higher numbers of Catholics backed MEDICARE FOR ALL -- 83% !!!

Obama had a mandate -- Dems controlled the White House and both Houses --

right now GOP holds the USHR but they can stop everything?

What nonsense!!

Obama came in with the GOP in crashing in flames -- and Obama resurrected them from the ashes!!




"Bipartisanship is simply another way of saying one party rule"


Corporate/fascism -- campaign funding -- has spread its cancer through both parties.

[cstanleytech]

32. Well I do agree with you about one part of what you said which is

"Corporate/fascism -- campaign funding -- has spread its cancer through both parties."
That has had a very adverse impact upon our nation more so than anything else.

[defendandprotect]

33. And it led Obama to back room deals with Big Pharma and Private H/C industry ....

Obama took in more money from them than any other candidate --

Once we acknowledge that this corporate prostitution has spread throughout both

parties we have to deal with the reality of it -- we can't walk away from it.

[cstanleytech]

34. Of course both parties are involved in that stuff but

I do agree with your opinion that obama was bought off.
Imo it was more of he didnt think the political repercussions were worth the bother of trying to pass such a law because the republicans enmasse and some of the dems opposing it so instead he decided to use it politically himself against the republicans and let them shoot themselves in the foot by offering up a plan like Romneys.
Now while its funny to see the republicans eager to knife themselves in the back and Romney to say its not like his plan when it is I wish obama had decided to stick to his guns instead and fought to pass a single payer system even if it had negative repercussions.

[cstanleytech]

35. bah, edit to my upper post

where I said "I do agree with your opinion that obama was bought off."
it should be "I don't agree with your opinion that obama was bought off."

Sorry for the late update but i just woke up and realized i messed up on it when I logged on to DU to check my messages lol

[dflprincess]

36. "so instead he decided to use it politically himself against the republicans"

You may not agree that Obama was bought off (I think he was) - but apparently you do agree he sold us out for his own political gain.

[cstanleytech]

37. For long term gain of

regaining the whitehouse ya i think he did, hopefully he and the dems will make enough gains and after the the 2012 to be able to pass some form of single payer healthcare and thats about all we can hope for as its pretty clear the only healthcare plan most republicans in washington want is the Die Sooner type for most of us except themselves of course.

[dflprincess]

39. Obama cut a deal that requires we buy "coverage" from the insurnace companies

beginning in 2014 - a position candidate Obama opposed in 2008. Obama and his "new Democrat" buddies in Congress have made it clear they don't care if we ever get access to health care like people in civilized countries have. And, if they have their corporate sell-out way, anyone who is currently under 55 won't have access to Medicare.

[cstanleytech]

40. Yes we know he signed that into law

but the question is why did he do it and my opinion is just that it was largely a political decision he made in order to cause fractures in the GOP which seems to be working.
As for medicare and SS so far most dems seem to be telling the GOP to go to hell regarding anything major like Ryans dumb ideas and hopefully they will continue to do so.

[leftyohiolib]

17. oops

[jwirr]

19. Actually Minnesota has a pretty good health care program with

Medicare, Medicaid and Minnesota Care which covers many of the uninsured WHEN it is properly funded. The problem is that they went through insurance companies. They have no way to control the costs because the bills all rely on private companies to insure people. Classic example of why HCR will not work the way it is too bring down costs.

[defendandprotect]

23. Extending tax cuts for the rich ensures that programs will NOT be adequately funded...

that's the name of the game -- starve these programs--

[dflprincess]

25. Medicare is a federal program and does not rely on state money

Medicaid is a mix of federal and state funds and the feds set a lot of the rules for who qualifies (good luck getting on that if you're a single adult with no dependents. The best you can say about Minnesota Care is that it's better than nothing but it's also getting harder to qualify for Mn Care.

[christx30]

20. At least the insurance companies are taken care of.

government is is going to hold a gun to our head and force us to buy it, even if we can't afford it. What will they force us to buy next?

[kickysnana]

9. Got the notice no health care July 1st unless GOP regains its sanity. n/t

[dogfacedboy]

12. To anyone affected by this BS: Find out where these idiots live, and

go there on a daily basis, and ask them why they are doing this to you. Get one inch from their face when you ask. Don't lay a finger on them, but make them fear you. Make them piss their pants.

[annm4peace]

24. Go there and camp on their yards. go picket in front of their houses

The MN Republicans voted in are a bunch of ass wipes for the corporations in MN. The suburbs voted in the most immature and irresponsible MN tea bagger type into office.

They will not compromise for the humanity. They might because they are harassed enough by their constituents.

They would sell mother or grandmother if they thought it would keep them in office.

[Skink]

16. Cairo Yemen and now Minnesota.

[dflprincess]

26. I attended a Town Hall tonight that several GOP legislatures held

they had done a very good job of keeping it on the down low but the local DFL and a couple union groups managed to get the word out about it. I think, to the surprise of the Philistines, the crowd leaned a bit on the side of sanity. However, they refused to answer any questions that hadn't been submitted in writing and it was apparent they had filtered the questions as most of the ones read seemed to lean toward the Republican point of view. My question about why they refuse to raise the income tax on the top 2% of earners but had no problem cutting the renters' property tax credit which benefits lower income people was not answered.

There was some frustration and questions yelled from the crowd, but were largely ignored. But things did not get too out of hand (actually, in a way, I wish they had.)

These assholes refused to budge from their "no new taxes" stand and, of course, blamed the whole impasse on Gov. Dayton. One of them, Senator Dan Hall, a self ordained minister, said we should go home and pray that Dayton starts thinking out of the box. ("Please Jesus, make Mark Dayton turn his back on the neediest citizens of the state.") They all also denied that it is not their fault if refusing to raise the income tax on top earners will result in a raise in local property taxes.

If I had heard the term "job creators" one more time I would have run screaming from the room - as it was I was just thankful I didn't have a stroke before the evening was over. The only moment that provided some amusement was a question of a state run casino - like Iowa has.... At that point someone (okay, me) loudly said "Iowa also has Gay marriage." - because, of course, all these jerks support the Constitutional Amendment we get to vote on.

There is just no reasoning with these people. I don't know how Dayton will get through to them... I think he might want to bring his German Shepards to any discussion he has with them, maybe the dogs could be used to do some LBJ like persuading.

[jwirr]

29. Thank you for going Princess.

[Thor_MN]

27. And the GOP is claiming Dayton, by telling the truth, is playing politics

They refuse to budge an inch from their original demands, yet criticize Dayton for not compromising by moving again (from his oriinal positions to his current position to their original demands). The MN GOP definition of compromise is "Give us exactly what we want, nothing else will do."

The MN GOP is acting like a spoiled brat 5 year old. I really think it is going to come to letting them hold their breath, the only problem is that when they stop breathing, it keeps everyone from breathing. Their tantrums are going to lead to a state government shutdown.

[jwirr]

28. Got THE letter today. One for my daughter and one for me. Am looking

for persons who may be planning to protest in St. Paul from the Duluth area - I am going to take my severely disabled daughter in her wheelchair and with her seizures and bad manners (she is a screamer) down to let them know just who they are cutting off.

Them and their hypocrite right to life signs along the highways that claim "all children are a blessing" under a picture of a disabled child. If those boards are still up someone should put signs up right beside them saying "except for the ones on welfare". Care of disabled children by the people dates as far back as Martin Luther the religious reformer. That was one of his other interests. Christan's???? Not by any definition I ever heard of.

If you here of a demonstration planned let me know. My grandson already has offered his car. My RN granddaughter wants to go with.

[Odin2005]

38. KICK