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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:22 AM
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Journalists Targeted and Arrested at Wisconsin State Capital
Source: Blip TV

I told Corcoran that she was with me and was a member of the press. Initially he let her through. When she stayed behind to film his treatment of citizens as they entered the building he grabbed and arrested her. She was hauled away in handcuffs. It came to my attention that she was being taken away. I went to her aid and when I explained that "I was a member of the press" Corcoran let me know that "I could go to". Referring to jail and being arrested like Alex. Alex was in taken to an elevator. While inside, before the doors closed, she handed me her camera that was dangling in her hand, likely to fall given the situation. I accepted the camera. At that time Corcoran dropped Alex to the ground, lunged at me from the elevator and tackled me. The excessive force he used left bruises on my arms and hips.

Read more: http://blip.tv/sam-mayfield-/journalists-targetted-and-arrested-at-wisconsin-state-capital-5257481



This is really pissing me off.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:29 AM
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1. More Republicon occultism
Stomping out avenues for the citizens to know what is going on.

Republicon occultism is so anti-American.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:30 AM
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2. I've watched the whole video, highly recommended, and if this
doesn't start setting off alarm bells, I don't know what will.

The capitol police were a pretty cooperative, 'try to work it out with you' bunch in February when I was there.
Now, they seem hopped up on some sort of Walker-induced powerade.

Sorry to all DUers who are law enforcement, no disrespect to the majority, but these guys in Madison have been given some sort of Fitzwalkerstan orders to be uber-aggressive, and over step their badges.

Share this widely. THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:38 AM
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4. It really is shocking. We didn't have this sort of thing even when
things were more volatile. I hope there is money for a lawsuit.
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 06:15 PM
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18. Is it the same CP or some Koch funded mercenaries or a "special" unit of Walker's?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:38 AM
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3. from DC WI - suppression of peoples' rights to free speech and assembly thru fear of imprisonment nt
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:45 AM
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5. Don't the demonstrators have lawyer-observors with them?
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:48 AM
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6. There had been a lot of ACLU observers earlier, don't know the
situation now. I do not go to Madison unless I have my ACLU 'bust card' with their number, and the list of what has been determined through the courts as legal protest tactics. I have seen and read about so many violations of those rights, I wonder if the ACLU and whomever can keep up with the lawsuits that ought to be filed.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:04 PM
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7. Can't say what I want.
Well, if this isn't the end, it's close.
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avebury Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:15 PM
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8. K&R
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 12:32 PM
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9. They should hire laid off teachers
as capitol cops. They have more experience at both avoiding and defusing confrontations without anyone getting hurt.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 01:12 PM
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10. Kicked and recommended
Thanks for the thread, buddysmellgood.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 01:25 PM
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11. I See the Republicans are Against Freedom of the Press too
fucking fascists
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 03:03 PM
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12. Prostitution is more honorable than what these thugs do.
The problem with those in uniform, is that you are required to do as you are ordered too.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 03:55 PM
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13. I wonder if Walker or Fitzie chose loyal capital building
cops? They likely interviewed and chose who they wanted assigned there, since in Feb. the capital cops were aiding and abetting the protesters (in their view) so they wanted to make sure they could have cops that would arrest citizens...
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Sportsguy Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:12 PM
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14. Will Anyone Help?
Sure would be nice.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 05:09 PM
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15. Enforcement of law....
is the job of the Executive branch- and they won't do anything about it, either
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 05:16 PM
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17. Ask your friend Pres Obama. nm
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 09:32 AM
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37. All the Wisconsin people here said to keep away, they would do this themselves..
They do not want any help from Federal elected Democrats.. They have been quite emphatic about that..
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 11:55 AM
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41. Hah!
Like they could hope to get any help if THEY DID ask! :grr:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 05:16 PM
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16. k & r
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:17 PM
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19. The GOP needs a new slogan
'No laws, no limits'
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 08:49 PM
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20. Brownshirts
nothing more or less. We have become what we fought against in WW II.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:04 PM
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MsPithy Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:48 PM
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22. I guess I would like legal and law enforcement opinions on
something that has been bothering me for a long time. If a police officer commands you to stop doing something that is a "right" you know you have, must you comply. In this video, if the press has the right to enter the capitol, can the police tell them to leave, and then violently force them to leave, just because the police say so? Does asking why, constitute obstruction?

Keep in mind the new Indiana ruling that says we have no right to resist police entering our homes even if they are doing it illegally. I guess my question is, do we have any rights at all if an individual police officer can at any point say we don't have that right?

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_ec169697-a19e-525f-a532-81b3df229697.html
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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:18 PM
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23. From the State Bar of Wisconsin
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 11:33 PM by Derechos
I am pasting the enforcement provision here but it is also down below Enforcement of the Wisconsin Open Meetings Law is the responsibility of the attorney general or the district attorney of any county in which a violation may occur.33 Penalties range from $25 to $300 for each violation, and actions taken during a meeting held in violation of the law may be voidable.34 A private party may enforce the law, but only after filing a complaint with the local district attorney and only if the district attorney declines to act after 20 days.35

Wisconsin News Reporters' Legal Handbook

4 - Issues of Access: Privilege, Open Records, Open Meetings, Rights of Privacy, and Defamation

The Journalist's Privilege

Journalists in Wisconsin enjoy a strong qualified privilege against testifying in both civil and criminal proceedings. This court-recognized privilege, based on the state and federal constitutions, applies to information gathered from both confidential and nonconfidential sources.

Source of the journalist's privilege. Wisconsin courts have found a journalist's privilege in both the Wisconsin Constitution and the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Specifically, state courts have read a qualified journalist's privilege into article I, section 3 of the Wisconsin Constitution: "no laws shall be passed to restrain or abridge the liberty of speech or of the press."1 Wisconsin courts also have relied on the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as the source of the journalist's privilege.2

snip

Open Meetings

The Wisconsin open meetings law permits reporters to attend and report on all meetings of governmental bodies, unless a specific statutory exemption permits the government body to close the meeting to the public. Every meeting of a governmental body must be preceded by a public notice.

Scope of the open meetings law. The law applies only to meetings of governmental bodies. "Governmental body" includes any state or local agency, board, commission, committee, council, department, or public body corporate and politic created by constitution, statute, ordinance, rule, or order, a governmental or quasi-governmental corporation, or a formally constituted subunit of any of these.24 "Meeting" means the convening of members of a governmental body to exercise the responsibilities, authority, powers, or duties delegated to or vested in the body.25 If one-half or more of the members of a governmental body are present, the meeting is presumed to be for exercising the responsibilities, authority, power, or duties delegated to or vested in the body.26 The term "meeting," however, does not include any social or chance gathering or conference that is not intended to avoid the law.27 A telephone conference or email discussion among the relevant number of members may be a meeting subject to the open meetings law.


Enforcement of the Wisconsin Open Meetings Law is the responsibility of the attorney general or the district attorney of any county in which a violation may occur.

Unless there is a specific statutory provision to the contrary, a secret ballot may not be used to make any decisions or to determine any election, except the election of the officers of the public body.28 The motions and roll call votes of each meeting must be recorded, preserved, and open to public inspection consistent with the open records statute - even if the meeting at which the vote was taken was properly closed.29

A reporter may record, film, or photograph a meeting held in open session as long as it does not interfere with the conduct of the meeting or the rights of the participants.30

Procedure to close a meeting. A governmental body may close its meeting to the public only upon a motion made and passed in public by a majority vote of the body.31 In connection with that vote, the chief presiding officer must announce to those present the nature of the business to be considered in closed session and the specific exemption relied on for the closed session.32 Closed sessions may be held for any of the specific purposes listed in Wis. Stat. section 19.85:

1) to deliberate after any judicial or quasi-judicial trial or hearing;

2) to consider certain specified personnel matters;

3) to consider specific applications of probation or parole;

4) to consider a strategy for crime detection or prevention;

5) to deliberate or negotiate the purchase of public properties, the investing of public funds, or to conduct other specified public business whenever competitive or bargaining reasons require a closed session;

6) to deliberate unemployment insurance or worker's compensation;

7) to deliberate the location of a burial site if discussing the location in public would likely result in disturbance of the burial site;

8) to consider financial, medical, social, or personal histories or disciplinary data of specific persons which, if discussed in public, would be likely to have a substantial adverse effect upon the reputation of any such person;

9) to confer with legal counsel for a governmental body that is rendering oral or written advice concerning strategy with respect to litigation;

10) to consider requests for confidential written advice from the State Ethics Board or from any local government ethics board;

11) to consider any and all matters related to acts by businesses which, if discussed in public, could adversely affect the business, its employees, or former employees; and,

12) to consider financial information relating to the support of certain nonprofit corporations.

Enforcement. Enforcement of the Wisconsin Open Meetings Law is the responsibility of the attorney general or the district attorney of any county in which a violation may occur.33 Penalties range from $25 to $300 for each violation, and actions taken during a meeting held in violation of the law may be voidable.34 A private party may enforce the law, but only after filing a complaint with the local district attorney and only if the district attorney declines to act after 20 days.35

Access to Courtrooms

The public has a right to attend court proceedings in Wisconsin. The presumption of openness includes access for reporters and their cameras in the courtroom. Access to juvenile court proceedings and records, however, is limited.

Access to courtrooms. The public's right to attend court proceedings in Wisconsin is protected by the state and federal constitutions and a Wisconsin statute. Wis. Stat. section 757.14 states:

"The sittings of every court shall be public and every citizen may freely attend the same, except if otherwise expressly provided by law on the examination of persons charged with crime; provided, that when in any court a cause of a scandalous or obscene nature is on trial the presiding judge or justice may exclude from the room where the court is sitting all minors not necessarily present as parties or witnesses."

A court may exercise its discretion to close a proceeding in only the rarest of circumstances, and its decision must be based on compelling reasons.36 The court must conclude that failure to close the hearing would jeopardize the very nature of the proceeding and that "the quest for justice will be better served by secrecy than by public disclosure."37 Moreover, the court must hold a public hearing and state its reasons before it can close a court proceeding.

Cameras in the courtroom. Chapter 61 of the Wisconsin Supreme Court Rules governs the use of still and video photography in Wisconsin courtrooms. (Please see the discussion in Chapter 2.)

There is a lot more here if you want to read it - http://www.wisbar.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Wisconsin_News_Reporters_Legal_Handbook&Template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=47139

For the entire manual - see http://www.wisbar.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Wisconsin_News_Reporters_Legal_Handbook&Template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=46941
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 02:05 AM
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28. ...but this wasn't a meeting.
This was a protest.
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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 05:21 AM
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31. You are right, the reporters stated they were there to cover the Supreme
Court hearings which they have total right to do. I wasn't sure exactly where they were at first. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/07/us-unions-wisconsin-idUSTRE75604N20110607

Nevertheless, the ACLU sued the Department of Administration back in March to force the state house to be re-opened to the public.

The ruling led to the end of more than two weeks of protester presence at the state Capitol, as the final holdouts left the building after 10 p.m. Thursday

Judge John Albert said the state may impose "reasonable restraints" on the time, place and manner of future protests. He also ordered the state Department of Administration to remove protesters — who have been spending the night in the Capitol — after 6 p.m. when it normally closes, saying, "If the building is closed, there's no one to listen to a demonstration."

Albert said the restriction of public access to a trickle by DOA was "a good-faith effort" to manage the situation. "DOA and law enforcement were caught off guard by the quickly growing number of people coming to the Capitol," he said.

But he rejected claims by officials in Gov. Scott Walker's administration that disruptions caused by the protests over proposed limits on collective bargaining necessitated the strict access policy.

He ordered the DOA to "open the state Capitol to all members of the public and rescind the access policies put in place (Monday) and replace them with the access policies in effect on Jan. 28, 2011."

Albert said his intent was to facilitate the reopening of the Capitol consistent with the free assembly and free speech provisions of the state and U.S. constitutions. "Demonstrator is not a word that should be used in a vein of disrespect," he said, adding, "These people were exercising an important right."

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_e1975d48-45cd-11e0-bcc6-001cc4c03286.html

As people still want to enter the building, according the FDL, the police perhaps were not wanting evidence that the administration was still trying to keep people out despite the court order, raising real first amendment issues for both the protesters and the press.

But some protesters still want to enter the Capitol. Under the law, they have that right. The state ACLU successfully sued the Department of Administration to return the access policies to allow for a relatively open Capitol building. Yet yesterday, people were arrested in the Capitol building. Security personnel in the building started padlocking the doors, against the accepted standards mandated under court order, and when filmmakers started shooting that, the police turned their attention to them. These filmmakers were credentialed members of the press who have been capturing footage in Wisconsin for many weeks.

Last week at a Joint Finance Committee meeting, protesters engaged in civil disobedience and were carried out of the room. But this case looks to be much more sinister. Police officers in the Capitol just didn’t want video evidence of them locking the doors. So they tackled and arrested reporters, credentialed press.


http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/06/07/wisconsin-capitol-police-tackle-arrest-members-of-the-press/
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 06:03 AM
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32. FDL...
Credibility fail.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:41 AM
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42. Oh, and watch the video by all means. Try to find the supreme court hearings being covered.
You won't. This was a bum-rush to the rotunda. Nothing more.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:24 PM
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24. Welcome to the United States of Police formerly the land of the free and home of the brave.
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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:44 PM
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25. The problem with these guys is "just following orders" doesn't cut it...
This seems like borderline illegal shit. And that excuse didn't cut it in the Nuremberg trials. I don't know about the police, but, in the military, members have an obligation to disobey unlawful orders:

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders.htm
http://www.omjp.org/ArtLarryDisobey.html

"The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) 809<890>.ART.90 (20), makes it clear that military personnel need to obey the "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ."

Regardless of whether they take a similar oath, I didn't know it was okay to shit all over the Constitution.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:28 AM
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26. Whats going on in Wisconsin
Edited on Sat Jun-11-11 12:29 AM by AsahinaKimi

seems to be spiraling out of control. The whole nation should see this abuse of power. Scott Walker thinks hes the Emperor of Wisconsin, he has to go.

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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 12:48 AM
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27. Protester with a camera != Journalist.
Act like a protester, get arrested like one.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 02:33 AM
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29. ...Facism has arrived.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 04:17 AM
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30. She should have followed orders!
Edited on Sat Jun-11-11 04:21 AM by Enthusiast
:sarcasm:
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sknabt Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 07:26 AM
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33. Welcome to Governor Walker's police state
It's interesting that official right-wing state television, Fox News, isn't covering any of this.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 07:43 AM
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 08:01 AM
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35. I AM SPARTACUS
Everyone should show up posing as journalists.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 08:53 AM
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36. To all of those calling for lawsuits
I am afraid I don't get it. What good do you think those will do? These people know they're breaking the law, acting like storm troopers. What purpose will a lawsuit serve?
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 09:35 AM
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38. Extra electoral remedies...
How else?
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 10:19 AM
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39. kr important stuff!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-11 10:59 AM
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40. K&R
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