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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:34 PM Original message |
Under an Arizona Plan, Smokers and the Obese Would Pay Medicaid Fee |
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individual rights (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think it is a good idea to encourage people to adopt healthier lifestyles. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Encouraging people to be healthy is NOT the same thing as discriminating against them... |
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individual rights (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Smoking and an unhealthy diet drive up the costs of health care. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. so does driving a car. |
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individual rights (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That one is already covered... |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. no, we need to charge more for ALL cars. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Yes, I agree. |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. It has been - just another issue where America doesn't pay attention |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. That's like saying don't charge teens more for auto insurance. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
43. I assume you are opposed to all "sin" taxes then? |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. For the "obese"...which flabby T.HATERbagger gets to set the limits? |
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BulletproofLandshark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. Arizona: Building bridges back to the 19th Century every day n/t |
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Sparky 1 (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. ^^^^^ ***** 5-star answer |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Just childless? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Wow, I missed that on first read. |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. That doesn't seem legal. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
34. That's actually the only bit that is backed by data. Childless Medicare recipients |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. ummm |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 05:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
31. Smoke ANYTHING, you damn hippie! |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. hee! |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. There are lot of risks out there, and it is silly to limit these to just those they can see. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. "Where is the data that supports cost-saving"? |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I would agree with this question ... |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Do I need to type slower? You know that's not what I wrote. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Illegal discrimination: against the CHILDLESS. Fuck those bastards. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
17. When are we gonna tax the skinny alcoholics? |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. So by that logic... |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. they KNOW that banning such activities is unconstitutional, |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
23. This is contrary to the insurance model |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 07:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. This. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
25. Smoking is a choice - so is drinking & unprotected sex. Some obesity |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
26. My daughter, who is on Medicaid, has a weight problem - but it's not because she eats too much |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of |
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mr_smith007 (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. Smoking and Obesity huh... |
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buckrogers1965 (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-11 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
29. what is obese? |
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Thor_MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
32. WTF!!! What does being childless have to do with health care costs? |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. It's politically unpopular to take health care away from the kiddies |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. This part is mere statistics. |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. This is no different than taxing cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, etc. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. It's weird how many people support extra taxes on cokes and other snack items |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
38. Meth makes people very skinny n/t |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. They Would Probably Use Body Mass Index (BMI) to Determine Who is "Obese" |
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LetTimmySmoke (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. I don't see a problem with this at all. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-11 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. Someone somewhere proposed an estate tax to cover medicare/caid expenses |
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