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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 12:54 PM
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Louisiana House committee approves ban on abortions
Source: Times-Picayune

A proposal to ban abortions in Louisiana has won approval from a House health care committee.

Rep. John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie, says his House Bill 587 would threaten the U.S. Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling by prompting lawsuits from pro-choice groups. The measure would expand the crime of feticide to include fetuses that are voluntarily aborted.

The proposal also would ban Louisiana from using Medicaid funds on abortions that occur in the case of rape or incest. A state health agency attorney said that would risk the cut-off of Medicaid funds from the federal government, as well as millions in legal fees.

The House Health and Welfare Committee voted 10-2 Tuesday to send the measure to the House for debate.

Read more: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/05/louisiana_house_committee_appr_1.html



I cannot even begin to express how much this pisses me off while simultaneously scaring the bejeezus out of me.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 12:59 PM
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1. When I grew up years ago they had sleazy types performing
secret black market abortions and many deaths. Now, along with other wars, like war on drugs, we can add this to fuel the black market, crime and deaths.

I find the ignorance and solutions appalling. I really wonder where this country is headed, it's getting pretty creepy. If young I would be looking for alternatives.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:00 PM
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2. +100 and I think we need to start boycotting Louisiana
Edited on Tue May-24-11 01:00 PM by Taverner
No offense to NOLA, but this aggression shall not stand, man
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:09 PM
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7. When stupidity is involved there are no solutions
only more problems.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:00 PM
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3. Why do these self-righteous MEN think it's their purview to tell WOMEN what they can...
...and cannot do with their bodies?

Never mind the religious/right-to-life bullshit arguments, these asshalfs are passing laws that violate and infringe upon at least 50% of the populations' CIVIL RIGHTS...

Un-fucking-believable...:grr:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:07 PM
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5. They think they rule the world because they invoke the god word, they are
Edited on Tue May-24-11 01:09 PM by RKP5637
special, and they own women as personal property.

I'm so fed up with this bullshit and these pious jerks trying to tell everyone how to live ... and many of them lead F'ed up lives. They are control freaks and they abound today.

And this attitude they have extends far beyond abortion.

:mad: :grr: :mad:
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:19 PM
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19. Unfortunately, a lot of women agree with him
If every woman was energetically pro choice, we wouldn't have these laws.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 03:31 PM
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25. Absolutely
The chair of this committee is a pro-forced birth woman.
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tolucano Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:26 AM
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34. It's not just men,
here in mexico and also mexican's that have been there in the us (especially 1st generation and illegals) are by far against abortion and also gay rights. That is men and women both. DF, Mexico city, is the only place here that abortion is accepted and that is with a struggle. Be prepared if and when the illegals vote, most are NOT from df (mexico city). I am pro choice.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:03 PM
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4. Guess I'll add La. to my list of boycotted states. Sorry, New Orleans, that I'll never see you
Edited on Tue May-24-11 01:05 PM by sinkingfeeling
again.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:08 PM
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6. Yeah, my list of boycotted states is growing too. n/t
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:20 PM
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12. I wish I could boycott it
Unfortunately, unless I want a divorce, I'm stuck here until the Gulf is lapping at my front door.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:07 PM
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17. New Orleans does NOT support these troglodytes
LaBruzzo, like David Dukkke before him, (mis)represents the white-flight suburb of Metairie. (Dukkke has since moved on to even whiter surroundings across Lake Pontchartrain.)
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:20 PM
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20. Actually, he's moved even further than that
He's been hanging out in the Ukraine for a few years.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:09 PM
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8. Republicans support the illegal black market. Generally speaking, that is- and this
is just further proof.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:14 PM
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11. Yeah, they've heavily invested in prisons and see the black market as good for
prison profit. And a few of them can start private abortion police, abortion cops to seek out the evil ... and the lawyers will have a good time of it too. Like war, those on the take do well in profiteering. It's all part of Corporate USA, USA, Inc., and the hell with the people and good solutions.

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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 05:01 PM
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29. yes
and premature death for poor people.
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:10 PM
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9. And just like in the old days...
women with means will either travel to friendlier territories or have their "D&C" performed by their private, discreet doctors. (Just as should be available for ALL women.)
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:11 PM
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10. Disgusting.
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:25 PM
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13. American Taliban in action
I have a call in to the folks at New Zealand immigration.

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/

I would love to sell our farm and buy one in New Zealand. :)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:32 PM
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14. Parents have to understand how little patriarchy values the lives of their daugthers, their nieces..
their sisters -- in fact, wives!!

And, they'd better be thinking fast because the NUMBERS OF ABORTIONS NEVER CHANGE --

ONLY THE CIRCUMSTANCES -- I.E., LEGAL OR ILLEGAL!!


If anyone wants to lose a loved one -- this is the way to do it!!

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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:39 PM
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15. Just another total waste of time piece of legislation, which, of course
Edited on Tue May-24-11 01:41 PM by JAnthony
will be struck down by the courts, but all that wasted time and energy and money going into challenging this law in one state after another after another.

Stupid people elected to office who don't know how to read and respect the Constitution and the rulings of the SCOTUS.

Where does stupid take us? Only into a massive black hole of time and resource wasting.

I'm ready to give LA and TX back to Spain or Mexico and let THEM deal with the stupid that reside there.

(Yes, Spain originally had the LA territory, and made a deal with France, who passed it off on Jefferson....the Spanish and the French BOTH must have known from the start that that owning that area would only lead to trouble!!!)
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:05 PM
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16. Ah yes, John LaBruzzo, a most worthy successor to David Dukkke
Same district. Same ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_LaBruzzo#Voluntary_sterilization_proposal

On September 23, 2008, LaBruzzo raised controversy by proposing that women receiving government welfare should receive $1,000 if they voluntarily choose to be sterilized. The proposal was criticized by opponents as "racist, sexist, unethical and immoral."

The voluntary sterilization proposal has a great deal in common with a previous proposal by Neo-Nazi David Duke, who formerly occupied LaBruzzo's seat in the Louisiana House of Representatives. To wit, "David Duke, the unsuccessful candidate for governor, proposed legislation offering $100 a year to welfare recipients who used Norplant. That, too, was defeated." LaBruzzo's proposal goes even farther than Duke's, as he has proposed permanent sterilization, as opposed to temporary birth control. Norplant, which Duke proposed using, has a 5-year period of effectiveness.


:puke:
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:13 PM
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18. Won't stand up in court, if it makes it into "law".
Fucking repukes. Where are the jobs, by the way, repukes?
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:27 PM
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21. You see
this can really create jobs in Louisiana. More prisons will have to be built.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:36 PM
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22. Not to mention
More doctors and undertakers to deal with the increase in women with perforated uteri and sepsis.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:40 PM
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23. These laws (several states have them) are designed to kick in when/if Roe v Wade is overturned
So whether they pass Constitutional muster at this point in time isn't the issue.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:48 PM
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24. agreed
Roe v Wade is federal law and right now states cannot overturn it..they can however have straight jackets in place in the event.
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perdita9 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:22 PM
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26. How does this help women and children?
Answer: it doesn't but it makes the GOP bullies feel better about themselves when they go to church.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:42 PM
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27. Go ahead, make it illegal you idiots. Then watch women die because they'll do it anyway.
And no Medicaid funds for rape and and incest???? These people are truly evil....
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:58 PM
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28. we're going backward.
i'm with you. pissed AND scared. fuck these asswipes.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 05:08 PM
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30. They have a lot of nerve calling themselves "Health and Welfare"
This bill is a lot of red meat for the GOP base. Even if shot down (which it eventually will be by SCOTUS) they can still point to it next election and claim, "See? We tried to ban abortion. It was those liberal, tax-and-spend, baby-killing Democrats who stood in our way."
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 05:12 PM
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31. Yikes !!!!

The first step toward gettin the wimmens back in the house, birthin the babies, cooking and cleaning.


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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 06:42 PM
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32. And how many jobs does that create?
Asses.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:51 AM
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33. Well, if you think about it
The state will need more healthcare workers and funeral home directors for all the women with perforated uteri and sepsis. Then you'll need investigators to determine whether a miscarriage was actually a home-grown abortion. More correctional officers for the new private prisons and more police focusing on fetal crimes.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:48 AM
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35. The anti-women crowd is DYING to get one of these
cases dragged before the Supreme Court so that the religiously insane members can overturn R v Wade. Yes, it would be shocking since at least two of them SWORE ON A BIBLE that they would not do that (stare decicis). But that's what's up with this shit. We need to take over this court too over the next 5 years while President Obama is still in office.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:51 AM
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36. It may come down to Justice Kennedy.
Scalia would overturn Roe in a heartbeat. It's almost impossible to argue that the original intent of the Consitution (including the Bill of Rights) was to prevent government from outlawing abortion.

Thomas, Roberts and Alito would probably join him. (We found out very quickly Roberts never meant what he said under oath about respecting precedent in the abortion line of cases. He should have been impeached as soon as he voted to overturn a then relatively new abortion decision.)

Ginsberg and Breyer would vote to uphold Roe v. Wade.

Sotomayor, being Catholic, may be a question mark, but I'm guessing she would join Ginsburg and Breyer. Ditto Kagan, though we have no record from her on this issue, either.







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