Suspect in beating of Giants fan Bryan Stow is in custody

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Source: LA times

By Joel Rubin, Los Angeles Times
May 22, 2011, 8:40 a.m.
A man suspected of being one of the two assailants in the brutal beating of Giants fan Bryan Stow at Dodger Stadium was taken into custody early this morning, Los Angeles police sources say.

At about 7 a.m., the Los Angeles Police Department SWAT team descended on an East Hollywood apartment building with a warrant in hand. According to apartment building manager Maritza Camacho, police, using loudspeakers with guns drawn, called out to the occupants of Apartment 25. Inside was one of the men police suspect in the March 31 beating that left Stow with brain damage.

As residents of the three-story building stood watching from balconies, police removed, one by one, the people who were inside the apartment, according to Camacho. Among them was a man with a bald head and tattoos on his neck and arms, she said, a description that appeared to match the vague sketches released by police of one of the two suspects. She added that he did not appear to resist being taken into custody.

Several police sources confirmed that the man taken into custody was one of the two suspects in the beating.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bryan-stow-arrest-20110523,0,5494774.story

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Oh, GOOD.

He'll need to be in custody, once everyone finds out who he is.

I am not normally violent, but I did feel a violent urge sweep over me on hearing this news.

[RandySF]

2. It's because of this attack

That I will no longer go to the Oakland Coliseum for an A's/Giants game event though it's cheaper than AT&T Park. Last time, I made the mistake of wearing a Giants hat and got a lot of aggressive, menacing looks from drunk fans on the way to the BART station (Giants won that night.

[JackInGreen]

15. Try it

at a Raider game, I dare you.

[RandySF]

29. I refuse to go to Raiders games

Even if I wore nothing indicative of SF.

[Ishoutandscream2]

21. Or Philadelphia.

[jerseyjack]

3. The last and final time I went to a ball game,

it was the World Series at Yankee Stadium. Yanks v. Dodgers so you know how long ago that was. A hot dog and beer throwing fight broke out in the seats at the right of me. Below me, a guy took a leak in front of his seat -- I guess so he wouldn't miss the next pitch.

After the game, cops chasing and clubbing idiots who ran onto the field.


I ain't been back since and I don't intend to.

[rurallib]

4. maybe a person should go to a baseball game with a gun?

[Faygo Kid]

5. Glad to hear this. What a tragedy.

I don't usually say this, but throw away the key.

[musette_sf]

11. same here

[spooked911]

14. no need for a trial, eh?

I expected better from DU

[JonLP24]

16. You really expected better?

All you need is an article to convict someone here. If the suspect is arrested for a heinous crime, you'll see all kinds of calls for various forms of torture.

[JI7]

19. i don't think the person said they don't deserve a trial

[JI7]

20. i don't think the person said they don't deserve a trial

[underseasurveyor]

22. I took it -as implied- to throw away the key

If the guy(s) are convicted.

[LanternWaste]

49. I believe that any indictments coming from a message board holds little weight in a court room...

I believe that any indictments coming from a message board holds little weight in a court room, that a trial is indeed needed, and that visceral reactions from those reading about the story are just that-- visceral reactions that have, at best (if any), a most benign consequence.

I thought that was obvious... :shrug:

[BR_Parkway]

6. A SWAT team?

[Dem_in_Nebr.]

7. My thoughts exactly.

That's a little overboard, isn't it?

[tishaLA]

10. seriously. If it's him, I'm glad he's in custody, but a SWAT team

seems a little overboard

[musette_sf]

12. In this case I'm not bothered

since I figured these shitbags had left the country by now. I'll take a SWAT bust.

[MadMaddie]

30. No I don't think so! The guy has a violent criminal history

and he has used weapons in the past. They were not going to take any chances. This guy was also on parole so they knew who they were dealing with.

[BR_Parkway]

48. But apparently it was ok for the neighbors to be out on their balconies

watching the whole thing go down? At least, according to the article. I guess that's where the major incongruence hit me. First off that it was an entire SWAT team taking down one guy from a beating incident (vs someone on the run or hold up in a bank with multiple hostages)

But when further readings says they didn't even feel the need to clear the innocent bystanders out of the area - the brain just goes WTF? Overkill to show force? Or total incompetence from a SWAT team commander (with the presumption that he/she has had much better training than this would indicate)

[spooked911]

13. agree... this sort of thing is getting out of hand

[tularetom]

18. It's a high profile case and this is budget time

Gotta demonstrate to the city council and the press that you really need all that firepower and those armored vehicles. Otherwise they might get cut from your budget.

[demosincebirth]

8. Someone must have dropped a dime on him. Two hundred grand is a lot of dough. Most

likely, other arrests will follow.

[IcyPeas]

17. it was his parole officer...

just saw an update of the story here...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/05/tip-lead-to-suspect-in-dodger-stadium-beating-case.html

[Corruption Winz]

9. If this is the guy, they should throw the book at him...

I love sports. LOVE sports. But, at the end of the day, it's a game. Pathetic individuals, who ever did this.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

23. It's just a game, it's just a game.

I really can't understand how it can be that important to someone.
Now war, that's a different matter, you are asked to give your life for the corporate profits of the country.
That's really worth fighting for.
Just get in line and go along peacefully, don't think.
Give them circuses and cake.

[tblue37]

31. I think some people are just on the lookout for a reason--any reason--

to "justify" acting out their aggressive fantasies. A guy like that is a powder keg--if he doesn't beat soemone half to death over a ball game, he will do it because his steak was over or undercooked, or because someone cut him off or was driving to slow in front of him.

In fact, he probably has gone off and beaten other people, only this time it became widely known because of media reports.

[theHandpuppet]

42. It doesn't help that so much alcohol is sold at games

But MLB makes their bucks selling tanker trucks of beer at games so I don't think anything will change.

[LetTimmySmoke]

24. +1 K&R

[LibDemAlways]

25. Cheap seats plus plenty of opportunity to get drunk equals trouble.

As with many venues around the country, the Dodger Stadium parking lot was not adequately patrolled after the game. The thinking seems to be, "We've got your money. Now you're on your own."

Things have, of course, now changed. Patrols have been stepped up, but it took this tragedy for it to happen.

[Bluzmann57]

26. I've been to sporting events and never ever worried about getting assaulted

But maybe we here in flyover country have our priorities straight. Sports is fun and games and we certainly have rivalries, but c'mom. There are many more important things to worry about than a Cubs/Cardinals game. Or a Packers/ Bears game. Or whatever.

[LibDemAlways]

41. The troublemakers are gang members who are looking

for a fight. They aren't fans.

The Dodgers have known about the problem for a long time, but didn't do much about it until this incident.

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. 8 to 1 odds he beats the charges

Shit like this is devilishly difficult to prove.

[BobbyBoring]

28. here's the best part

There was a 10 YO kid in the getaway car. Fine fucking example!

[Omaha Steve]

32. Tip Led to Arrest of Suspect in Giants Fan Beating

Source: AP

By CHRISTOPHER WEBER

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A tip from a parole officer led to the arrest of one of the suspects in the attack on a San Francisco Giants fan outside Dodger Stadium after the rival teams' season opener, a brutal beating that prompted an outpouring of support for the victim and outrage in the sports world and beyond.

The man detained early Sunday is believed to be the "main aggressor" in the March 31 beating that left Bryan Stow with brain damage, Los Angeles Chief Charlie Beck said at an afternoon news conference at the stadium.

An emotional Beck hailed the work of 20 full-time detectives who he said have pursued 630 leads in the case so far.

The suspect, whose name was not immediately released, was among several people detained for questioning after police served search warrants, Los Angeles police Det. Jose Carillo said. Police said he was one of two suspects that have been sought in the case.

Read more: http://sports.excite.com/news/05222011/v8661.html

[Ken Burch]

33. I hope they throw the book at the bastards

There's no way in hell that a sports rivalry should be THAT fucking serious.

[Initech]

34. Amen, and I've seen some crazy shit all over the country.

Lakers-Celtics, Angels-Dodgers, Angels-Red Sox, Dodgers-Giants, you name it...

[MadMaddie]

35. This was beyond sports

I am going to take a guess since he has a parole officer he is a violent criminal who should not have been walking the streets.

At what point in our society do we say enough is enough, these violent criminals had the choice to do to right and wrong just like the rest of us. An innocent man is brain damaged because of our current system.

[Lasher]

37. You are correct, Maddie

(Update, 5:46 p.m.: LAPD officials publicly identified the suspect as 31-year-old Giovanni Ramirez. Ramirez was booked for assault with a deadly weapon and is being held on $1 million bail.)

<snip>

The suspect in custody has at least three prior convictions, a source close to the investigation said. He was convicted of attempted robbery in 1998, robbery in 1999, and firing a weapon in a public place in 2005, according to the source.

<snip>

The incident drew intense scrutiny from around the world on the beleaguered Dodgers organization -- which has struggled to deal with a segment of its fan base that police say is dominated by gang members -- and spurred an intense hunt for the attackers.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/05/suspect-dodger-stadium-bryan-stow-beating-new-tattoos.html

[Heywood J]

47. How did this guy not make three strikes?

He was convicted of attempted robbery in 1998, robbery in 1999, and firing a weapon in a public place in 2005

At the very least, he should be facing it now.

It's ridiculous that three strikes is used against someone for a non-violent offense, but someone with robbery and weapons convictions is out.

[sharesunited]

36. Passion about so called gun rights is equally absurd. Grow up America.

[MadMaddie]

38. I don't understand?

What do gun rights have to do with this situation. The chronic criminal repeat offender committed a violent crime and he should not have been walking the streets.

Gun rights is a different conversation.

[sharesunited]

40. Sorry if I was off topic.

When the subject is fighting to the death about nothing, the imaginary right to keep and bear arms always comes to mind.

[WildEyedLiberal]

43. Banning guns would have prevented this crime

Oh wait. No it wouldn't have.

[sharesunited]

44. This was not a gun crime. And a gun in the hands of the victim might have stopped it.

One point awarded for the argument in favor of an armed public.

[Exultant Democracy]

39. Well if he was already on parole there is a good chance this might be his third strike.

Not that support the third strike rule in general.

[dreamnightwind]

45. Dodgers were cutting costs of security

The parking lot where this occurred was largely unsupervised. Apparently the Dodgers used to pay the LAPD big bucks to staff the place with police officers, in uniform, who were getting paid overtime wages. They found a cheaper way to do it. Hire the cops to work on a moonlight basis, off-duty, out of uniform, not official police duty so no overtime pay. These cops complain that they have little impact on the overall security environment, since they are out of uniform and they are supposed to refer any situation requiring force to a much smaller security force that is part of the Dodgers organization.

The Dodgers owner, Frank McCourt, has a long and troubled background. He has driven the team to the brink of bankruptcy with his lavish personal spending and bad business decisions. He is keeping the team afloat with a huge loan from Fox. It has gotten so bad that major league baseball recently stepped in and took over financial control of the Dodger's organization.

This didn't have to happen. The parking lot, and the stands, have had a ton of problems, ignored by the bottom-line oriented team management. There were no security cameras in the parking lot. A general environment of violence at games was given the blind eye.

I go to Giants games here in SF now and then (huge fan, mostly watch on TV). Baseball games are generally a pretty safe form of entertainment. The scene around the Dodgers, though, is uniquely out of hand, and is at least in part due to corruption at the top.

Since the incident, L.A.'s mayor stepped in, and apparently there are many more LAPD at the games and in the parking lots now. It shouldn't have taken this to fix the problem, though. Hopefully McCourt will lose the team (this is likely to happen), and someone who cares about providing an overall good environment for the fans can take over. We'll see.

I recently read a long series of articles detailing McCourt's problems, which is the basis for most of what I wrote here. Perhaps some Dodgers fans reading this can more accurately describe the situation. Anyway, there is a lot of background context that involves corruption and money that contributed to the context surrounding this incident.

[alp227]

46. The suspect is 31-year-old Giovanni Ramirez

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8145069

Glad he was arrested. Disappointed it was by a SWAT team not Navy Seal Team 6 though.