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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:34 AM
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'Osama Home' Landowner is Arrested
Edited on Wed May-04-11 04:35 AM by Hissyspit
Source: Sky News

'Osama Home' Landowner Is Arrested

The man who purchased the land in Pakistan where Osama bin Laden's compound was built has been arrested, Sky sources reveal.

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Meanwhile, Sky's special correspondent Alex Crawford, reporting from Abbottabad, said: "A source I spoke to this morning said they had been sharing information about that specific compound with the US as far back as 2009.

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Pakistan's ubiquitous ISI spy agency also claims it gave the US key leads on the compound's inhabitants last year.

"My ISI source said they shared information as long as six months ago that Osama bin Laden's wife and his sons were living in that compound, and they shared this with the Americans."
In further developments, Al Arabiya said that bin Laden's daughter claimed he was captured alive before being shot dead by US forces.

Read more: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Man-Who-Purchased-Land-In-Abbotabad-Pakistan-Where-Osama-Bin-Laden-Compound-Was-Built-Is-Arrested/Article/201105115985105?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15985105_Man_Who_Purchased_Land_In_Abb
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:16 AM
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1. ISI also said that bin Laden wasn't even in Pakistan.
I'm afraid I'll have a hard time believing anything they have to say on the subject.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:17 AM
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2. Yep.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:19 AM
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5. I could deal with it
if they were saying one thing publically, but telling us the truth privately. It would be important to keep bin Laden thinking that he was still safe. I have no doubt that he'd have a backup plan or two if he thought things were getting too hot for him at the compound.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:25 AM
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16. The ISI aided and abetted Osama
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 12:29 PM
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19. Aided and abetted him in WHAT?
It's possible they were doing a double-agent thing: telling Osama "yeah, we'll protect you, we'll keep you safe, we won't let the bad ol' USA get you" while at the same time working with the CIA to kill him.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 09:07 AM
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28. Boy did you miss the memo
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:30 PM
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20. Think about it.
If Zardari called up Obama and said, "Hey, we know where UBL is, here's all the surveillance info, there's no question about it," do you think Obama would have waited from 8/10 to 5/11?

I can deal with it, too, if Zardari and the ISI are sitting there saying to themselves, "Obama has had all the information for 8 months. What's he doing with his thumb up his *ss? Well, it's embarrassing for him to be seen like that, so we'll cover his ass and say that, well, we know UBL's wife and kids are there, but we know the important thing is that we've not saying the most relevant bit of info."

It gives cover to the ISI and Zardari. It makes Obama look like a simple-minded, indecisive buffoon.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:32 AM
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3. Captured alive? Then shot dead?
She's just saying that to make me happy.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:50 AM
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7. No, he was really captured alive.....
...for a few seconds. That was while he was standing at his bedroom mirror wondering what all those little red dots were doing on his forehead!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:58 AM
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9. Maybe we should execute her, too.
Edited on Wed May-04-11 06:58 AM by Hissyspit
This is all about revenge and making Americans :D happy happy :D, after all. Or we could justify it as she is devil spawn. Chopping the heads off of the royal spawn a time-honored tradition. Dump her in a shallow grave? :thumbsup:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:11 PM
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21. Hyperbole is fun, isn't it?
Careful not to sound shrill and irrationally hysterical, though.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:13 PM
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27. No fun in finding humor in the horror of children caught up in war and violence for me
though I thought I'd give it a try since it is the fashion these days.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:40 AM
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14. LOL - now THAT made me laugh (n/t)
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jerseyjack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:06 AM
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4. Show trial coming up.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:23 AM
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6. OBL worked for the CIA.. he was a created by the CIA ....
..why does that fact always get left out of the news?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:16 AM
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10. Actually, it was/is mentioned frequently...
back before anyone knew who he was internationally, he was mentioned occasionally by both British and American reporters as being backed by the CIA. Just last night, I heard it 3x as they went over his life.

Thing is, now he's dead, so that is a much larger story.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:22 AM
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12. I guess he won't be telling his side of the story
Like how his men in Yemen were betrayed on an operation conjured up by us and the Saud. That led him to go to Afghanistan, but when he found out, he vowed revenge against the Saudi Regime and the US.

Classic Blowback.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:32 AM
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13. He won't be telling his side of the story...
then again, he said quite a bit on his messages. I can't say bin-Laden personally killed anyone at any given time, but he also did nothing overt to stop any of the killing, in fact, on many an occasion, he financed situations where many people were killed and maimed.

He also could have turned himself in, he would have been tried, but I can be pretty well assured the outcome would have been about the same. Why is it that after all these years, he did not try to clear himself of any charges?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 08:41 AM
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17. He knew he was a dead man.
Just like Saddam.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v193311w8ZTcCNh

We have to look forward. Can't be digging up those old skeletons and re-writing History.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:18 PM
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22. You know who else just said that, for real?
The Pakistani president. He said we have to look forward. :)



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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:46 PM
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26. I didn't know that.
"What a happy coincidence", he says, as he trims the loose end from his cuff. :hi:



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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:11 PM
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24. Anyone interested in that part of his past can google "Tim Osman"
that was his Delta Tau Chi name. :-)
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:26 PM
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25. Because it isn't true?
The resistance in Afghanistan had three main (and equal)sources of funding:

1. The USA - funneled through the ISI.

2. Arab governments - especially the Saudis.

3. Islamic "charities" - there are a lot of rich, fundamentalist Muslims.

Contrary to popular belief, the CIA did not have a big footprint in Afghanistan - the ISI was very protective of their turf and insisted that their men act as go betweens. Most of that US money was spent without direct oversight of the CIA. And the ISI had their own agenda - for example a lot of that money was actually spent training Kashmiri terrorists. From the ISI perspective, India was always the real danger.

Ben Laden was primarily funded by the Islamic charities - a charismatic, pious holy warrior was irresistible to rich, fundamentalist Saudis. There is absolutely no evidence that he ever worked for the CIA.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:53 AM
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29. The CIA had a very large footprint in Afghanistan,
the most expensive operation in its history. The U.S. government spent billions supporting radical Islamism in Afghanistan. The CIA filled the country with an array of high-tech weapons, trained the leaders of extremist movements, and even published Korans and textbooks for the madrasas that couched lessons to young Muslims in the language of radicalism and war, instilling extremist theology in the next generation of jihadists (some of whom would later attack U.S embassies).

The disaster in Afghanistan is firmly rooted in self-serving U.S. interventionist policies, that willingly sacrifice entire societies in the name of American "interests".
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:57 AM
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8. Deniability is a part of all the diplomacy
Deniability would complicate getting public support in Pakistan for reprisals against the Pakistani government. Pakistan would want that for the sake of law and order in its streets.

Deniability is otherwise called covering your ass.

If I'm right, the calls to reduce aid to Pakistan will turn into nothing as behind the scenes the information on Pakistani involvement quietly spreads to US Congressional committee chairs.



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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:18 AM
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11. They needed to find someone...
they need information and someone to blame for what transpired.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:43 AM
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15. In an ironic twist of fate...
the very next day, the landlord was about to kick out OBL for failure to pay the rent! "I'm here to change the locks? News? what news?"

:rofl:
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 12:13 PM
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18. This "palace" had better be leveled and scrapped from the earth.
Wipe it off the face of the earth.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 04:19 PM
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23. Wacky tenant with roommates and a grumpy landlord? I smell a sitcom. nt
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