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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:08 PM Original message |
Chavez condemns Libya airstrikes, warns Obama: ‘Don’t even think about it’ in Venezuela |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Chavez? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Venezuelans? Maybe even all folk in this part of the globe, south of the U.S.? |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. What silly posturing. Chavez knows there's not a chance in hell Venezuela will be attacked. n/t |
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Fool Count (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. And how does he know that? Certainly not from the long |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. The US has not actually invaded a Latin American country since Panama in 1989. |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. GWB did give him an involuntary escort out of his own country, in a coup GWB |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. More recently, Obama's administration facilitate a coup in Honduras |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. you're next Hugo, Obama is coming for you |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Where is the spin? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. The spin is in presenting Chavez's viewpoint as extraordinary |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
105. What EFerrari said - the spin is in all over the media. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. There's no spin. Chavez' remarks are presented as uttered. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. And you appear to be unaware the Venezuelan media are intensely anti-Chavez. Sad. n/t |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. I doubt they're making up his comments. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. That wouldn't happen, would it? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 01:33 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Considering that my source is the Venezuelan government's official news agency? No, it wouldn't. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
49. THAT long since the last overt US invasion of a a Latin American country, huh? Wowza! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
101. 1814? |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
108. If Bush isn't going to pile on when Chavez faced a coup, then |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
74. A month ago who thought Libya would be attacked? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
109. Except for that pesky time Venezuela was attacked. (Probably not the only one.) |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. Ever see a movie called "Missing"? |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
59. I saw it only two days ago. It's based on a true story |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. Sorry, Hugo. Nobody is thinking about invading Venezuela. |
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Vinee (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. not until the oil in the middle east runs out at least. nt |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. been in my mind lately |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. GWB kicked him out of his country once. After he raise the taxes on oil companies. |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Oh its possible obama might back a coup sure, |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 01:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. No reason in the world to assume it couldn't happen,now that we've seen how he's positioning himself |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. "Obama’s failure in the hemisphere" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 07:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Mark Weisbrot is one of the two or three top Latin America analysts in the US. n/t |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. no he's not, he's a Chavista n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Your frame of reference is very limited. n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
98. He's a very well-educated, accomplished "Chavista," then, isn't he? Tiny biography: |
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bengalherder (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. Dear Hugo, |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. It always seems to me that Chavez is trying to get the US to attack him |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I think it makes him feel important. |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Evidentially he is important. Or can you see a reason for the ongoing US media campaign against him? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. That's on purpose. He's framed that way in the American media. |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. Easiest way of |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #30 |
55. K&R X 1000. You have really hit the nail on the head. Chavez |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. Wait till elections next year. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. Is he expecting his citizens to rise up in protest against him? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. I wonder, if there were a significant armed resistance to Chavez |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I really like Hugo. |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. And where was your support for the people of Honduras, when the coup happened? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
72. The Honduran military wasn't bombing anyone |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. They killed civilians. Peaceful civilians. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. They've been murdering, torturing, suppressing the population constantly |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Important that you point out the racist background of these regimes. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. They do assume great familiarity with him, don't they? Deeply pitiful. n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #87 |
104. How would establishing a no-fly zone have helped? They weren't bombing civilians |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
63. Do you support intervention against the U.S. |
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Proletariatprincess (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. I believe that any armed resistance to Hugo Chavez would be |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
60. There is oil in Libya |
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Proletariatprincess (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. yes. I oppose the attacks in Libya. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I agree |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. He was elected in elections that are fair than the ones we have here. He has popular support |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. Not everyone supports US military intervention in Libya, as is evident from reading in LBN alone. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. I never said that everyone did support it |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yeah, Chavez... |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
67. Maybe if he puffed up and looks big |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Obviously Chavez needs to somehow store poisonous ink.... |
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Blandocyte (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. In his case bright colors might signal estrus |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. As in: |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. You know, Hugo...I really like you...I actually really do. |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
64. You really should acquaint yourself with the history of U.S. interventionism. n/t |
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Proletariatprincess (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. Chavez is right to raise this issue. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
54. Shh.. No one wants facts like "the US Southern Fleet has amassed off the shore of South America and |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
65. And don't forget the Pentagon's stated desire for "full spectrum dominance" in South America. n/t |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. LOL |
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Proletariatprincess (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Chavez may be a lot of things.... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Or, maybe, in this and most other instances, he is, wellllll |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
83. Yes, he's done great things to improve the quality of life there |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Please share a link to Chavez' requirement for permission to leave Venezuela. |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Well, I can't really link you to my personal conversation with my friend living in Valencia. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Sounds like a foreigner with temporary residency status. That's the case in all Latin America n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Like the referendum in which Chavez's party lost by a hair? I see. |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #91 |
103. There were observers from the OAS, the EU and the Carter Center. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. Translation: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
40. He's not crazy at all and he's also not alone in his assessment. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. there were nearly 400 people at the Rio protest, I hope Obama escaped unharmed n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. The day before he landed, the police used tear gas and rubber bullets |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. 300 demonstrators, thanks for corroborating |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Protests today in Chile. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. your link says nothing about protests, it says "Chile, US diplomats sign nuclear energy accord" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
76. Yes it does, it's in the third paragraph I posted.n/t |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
93. Regardless of the number |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
25. I think Chavez is genuinely concerned... |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. But, but, but Venezuela already belongs to us. Isn't that what that dad-burned Monroe Doctrine |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. The land and its resource belong to US corporations, you'd think, along with the cheap labor |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
69. The Roosevelt Corollary |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Thanks for the elaboration. I regard Teddy as one of our greatest |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
36. Well, there's a note |
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Alamuti Lotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
52. Chavez & Castro said US/NATO was going to attack Libya; they were called every bad name in the book |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
88. + 1 |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
95. Notice too how Chavez Peace Commission was shunted aside for the Tomahawk Commission |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
53. Is Chavez feeling ignored? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Not that we admit to, anyway. And, if we do not spell it out, it's not happening. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Nah. He's just jealous 'cause we're so good lookin'. |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. In that area, he can feel secure |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
57. "the U.S. is after Libya’s oil..." Pshaw. We'd never admit to doing anything remotely like that |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
71. What the hell is with Chavez and propping up dictators? |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
75. His attention whoredom: Was he a beauty contestant like Quitter & BACHMANN?!1 n/t |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
80. I can't wait for the anti-government protests to start in Venezuela |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Chávez IS the anti government protest. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. He IS the people |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
85. has Chavez condemned his buddy Gaddaffi butchering his own people? |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Has Obama condemned his buddies ( more so Bush`s buddies), the house of Saud? Or Maliki? Or Salih? |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Nope. We armed the Saudi Arabian and Pakistani mercenaries killing the Bahrainis and Yemenis. n/t |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 02:47 AM Response to Reply #90 |
114. They haven't massacred as many as Gaddafi has, yet. We'll see what happens. |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
100. I remember when they were friends. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
102. If he doesn't create a humanitarian crisis AND disrupt the oil markets |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
106. I don't believe that Obama would attack Venezuela, but |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
115. I thought the people in Venezuela supported him? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 06:11 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Plan Avalia 2.0. |
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Lars77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
117. Chavez is a disgrace to the world left |
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