War on Libya ‘regrettable’ – Russia

[JanDutchy]

Source: The Voice of Russia

Mar 19, 2011 21:40 Moscow Time



Russia deeply regrets the Western decision to go to war with the Gaddafi regime in Libya.

A diplomatic spokesman said in Moscow Saturday that this hasty action on the Libya resolution of the UN Security Council must be pursued in a way that does not harm foreign diplomats or Libyan civilians who find themselves in the war zone.

He also reiterated the need for a solution that is achieved through peaceful dialogue between the Libyan sides


Read more: http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/03/19/47672549.html

[Davis_X_Machina]

1. If they really cared...

...they would have not abstained in the Security Council.

Having their blini and eating them too.

[fittosurvive]

21. They are indistinguishable from the US Congress who relinquished their authority

to an incompetent executive, which sanctioned the reckless initiation of two wars.

[DURHAM D]

2. Oh No - the sky is falling. nt

[faz]

3. Russia didn't vote yes did they?

Since Gorby gave up the empire status, Russia is a little nobody in the world stage.

[dipsydoodle]

5. a little nobody

who just happens to be the world's biggest oil producer.

[faz]

8. We are not talking oil production in this thread here, are we?

Russia is now a second rate country.

[dipsydoodle]

10. Dream on

.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

17. With the USA to follow them, those corporations don't care

about your well being, just their bottom line.

[rabs]

9. Brazil, another little nobody, abstained on the U.N. vote

which made Obama's trip to Brasilia somewhat awkward.

FYI Lula da Silva snubbed Obama's meeting with Braz industry leaders today in Brasilia.

[dipsydoodle]

12. Somewhat awkward

:rofl:

and thanks for those hugely amusing pictures you posted on that topic over in the LA Forum.

[Judi Lynn]

16. All building up until Sunday, too! That was just the beginning. They were amazing photos.

Who would have expected to see "Fora Obama," too?

[dipsydoodle]

18. What does Fora mean ?

Fuck off ? :)

[rabs]

23. FORA OBAMA

FORA OBAMA = GET OUT OBAMA.

Same happened to Dubya when he made a visit to Brazil

One silver lining about the O visit though. He did not have to ask President Dilma, "Oh, you have blacks in Brazil too?" Like Dubya did.

Re ears in other thread; yes, it was about ear aches. Glad all okay. :hi:

[dipsydoodle]

28. Yes that chestnut had occurred to me too.

:rofl:

:hi:

[faz]

13. They have their moral principles!

good for them

[russian33]

11. what a dangerous belief to have

fortunately people who run US don't believe that

[Wednesdays]

22. Depends on what yardstick you measure with to determine "nobody."

http://www.globalfirepower.com/
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Nation_branding

[monmouth]

4. Would this be why Gates trip was cancelled?...n/t

[David__77]

6. Then they should have voted "no."

As should have China.

[Boojatta]

26. It is regrettable if someone urinates on a king or queen ...

but can we conclude that someone who has the power to put out a fire with urine should let the monarch burn?

[Akoto]

7. And yet, they abstained instead of voting no. n/t

[Faygo Kid]

14. "a solution that is achieved through peaceful dialogue between the Libyan sides"

I am not yet sure what to make of this action, except to be appalled at the violence.

But one thing is clear: "a solution that is achieved through peaceful dialogue between the Libyan sides" is not going to happen.

[robcon]

15. Gutless Russians. Abstain, then criticize. Immoral position.

n/t

[PaulaFarrell]

19. Russians may be many things

I don't think gutless is one of them. I suspect they are playing a game where if Khaddafi wins (not unlikely) they haven't permanently soured relations, and on the other hand they haven't come out in actual oppostion to the wast. It may be immoral in the sense that they are hedging their bets, but how is it any more immoral (or rather amoral) than the US supporting Saudi?

[faz]

24. They should have voted no

Voting for the resolution

Permanent members: United States, Britain, France
Non-permanent members:: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Colombia, Gabon, Lebanon, Nigeria, Portugal, South Africa

Abstentions

Permanent members: Russia, China
Non-permanent members: Germany, Brazil, India

[joshcryer]

29. Or they could've vetoed like they did Burma in 2007.

:puke:

[jakeXT]

20. They were thinking he will stay in power... I doubt it

The theory of 'manageable chaos' put into practice


01.03.2011

Sergei Shashkov, political scientist

...


Purposes and goals

It appears that this large-scale campaign seeks global redivision of the world and a change in leadership in countries where the US has its long-term strategic interests. If young pro-western politicians ascend to power in the region, the US will enjoy its growing global position, while China, Russia and the EU will be left behind.

Special attention is paid to Islamist groups of all kind. Egypt's oldest and largest Islamist organisation, The Muslim Brotherhood, has remained the mouthpiece of protests in the Muslim world. And recently the organization has been experiencing the process of gradual legalization in exchange for decline of radical forms of expressing protests. As a result, once banned, The Muslim Brotherhood enjoyed almost 20% of seats in parliament until it was dissolved last month. Undoubtedly, this organization will gain even more votes in next parliamentary elections.

Fundamentalists will also become stronger in other countries where the US applied its cyber warfare, but these will be new generation Islamists, so to speak, like in Turkey where The Muslim Brotherhood is a ruling party. They use Islamic slogans in rhetoric but in fact deal with the issues of international integration.

Those who oppose new rules of the game will have to choose between hard-line reprisals or an exile.

The implementation of the campaign was spoiled by Libyan leader. For years the US administrations dreamed of getting rid of Muammar Gaddafi, but each time this charismatic and independent leader somehow manages to outwit the Americans. And thus Gaddafi saved other Arab leaders, who were next in the line, so to speak.

However, the US positively views achieved results. Apart from gaining control of the largest oil and gas fields and transportation routes, Washington will get access to markets where it may sell its arms. It is also very important that the US dollar will remain the major currency in the region.

Israel is pleased with the outcome of the uprising too as Arab leaders are now more deeply concerned about their own future rather than confrontation with the Jewish state. It will take the Arab world much time to recover from the blow. Strange as it might seem but the Saudi Arabia has gained its benefits too because now it has no rivals, except Israel, in struggle for being a better ally for the US in the region.

We should admit that the 'manageable chaos' theory has proved to be effective in terms of geopolitical re devision of the world. Exceptions just prove the rules: Gaddafi will remain in power, but this is no longer the Libya that once belonged to him. The aforementioned Steven Mann said in 2008 that Belarus was the only country where he failed to achieve his goals. But Washington is still full of hope.

http://en.interaffairs.ru/print.php?item=189

[faz]

25. Look at these lap dogs

Bosnia and Herzegovina, Colombia, Gabon, Lebanon, Nigeria, Portugal, South Africa

[Vinee]

27. Russia wants oil prices to stay high. Anything they say that seems counter to that is just BS.

Chaos in the middle east makes Russia wealthy.