Obama: U.S., allies ready to launch military action in Libya

[JanDutchy]

Source: Los Angeles Times

Reporting from Washington— President Obama said Friday the U.S. and its allies were ready to launch a military action against Libyan leader Moammar Kadafi if he didn't immediately stop all attacks on civilians in his country and pull back his troops from the rebel stronghold of Benghazi and three other cities.

In a message of warning aimed directly at the Libyan leader, Obama said the United Nations was ready to act if Kadafi didn't restore electricity and gas to those cities and clear the way for humanitarian assistance.

"These terms are not subject to negotiations," Obama said, promising that, if necessary, the U.N. Security Council resolution to protect the Libyan people would be "enforced through military action."


Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-pn-obama-libya-20110319,0,2928506.story

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This early morning I saw on vessel radar that three marine-miner ships , EU registrated form BE, PL and Ger, where in the near of the Italian island Lampedusa, direction Benghazi.

[Aerows]

1. Hurray...I hope it justifies spending cuts

for the poor, the elderly and the sick, because, you know, American citizens just aren't that important. It's far more important to mess around in a civil war in another country while people here are dying from a lack of health care than it is to let Europe suffer from an increase in oil prices.

[closeupready]

3. That's okay, We can always cancel the food stamp program if money gets tight.

Pair that with a round of tax cuts for the rich, and we're talking. :sarcasm:

[plumbob]

16. You forgot to include some more bank deregulation!

NOW it's complete!

[JanDutchy]

9. It is a selffulfilling prophecy and an addiction-economy

When once you stole freedom of people and their selfdetermination: make them slaves and you don't recognize it because of the profit;
When you make a system where-in health care and personal development only - or at most - can reached via a job in the army, the profiteurs can still going on doing their job
Oh yeah, you can admit some and give up the DADT-policy. But isn't that the same as giving a baby milk in the hope he/she stops crying. Not adware of the fact that feeding in order to devellop is a simple but a mayor/greatest Human Right?

Hindenburg in past was paided 2 million Deutsch ReichMark, to step down in order to give Hitler the chance to be the nazi-gau-leiter in order give the industrials all the chances for abuse

What is the price now?

What are you/we - each individual on this world - paying for a few?

[JanDutchy]

10. It is a selffulfilling prophecy and an addiction-economy

When once you stole freedom of people and their selfdetermination: make them slaves and you don't recognize it because of the profit;
When you make a system where-in health care and personal development only - or at most - can reached via a job in the army, the profiteurs can still going on doing their job
Oh yeah, you can admit some and give up the DADT-policy. But isn't that the same as giving a baby milk in the hope he/she stops crying. Not adware of the fact that feeding in order to devellop is a simple but a mayor/greatest Human Right?

Hindenburg in past was paided 2 million Deutsch ReichMark, to step down in order to give Hitler the chance to be the nazi-gau-leiter in order give the industrials all the chances for abuse

What is the price now?

What are you/we - each individual on this world - paying for a few?

[mybuddy]

2. A10 pilos are ready

This is good news, there are a lot of bored A-10 pilots sitting around wishing they could go Avenger some people.

[MisterP]

4. when was the last time the US went against a country with a real air force? nt

[Baclava]

26. The U.S. shouldn't be shooting down anything.

France sold them those Mirage fighter jets - let them shoot them down.

Let's just sit back with AWACS support and electronic countermeasures and let somebody else start the shooting for once.




Who is running this show anyway?

[Luminous Animal]

5. Where is Congress? The Constitution is very clear on which branch of government

has exclusive powers to declare war.

[JanDutchy]

14. May be you are right I think. But this a Treaty

In the Netherlands a Treaty overrule the Constitution.

That can be a profit - see the Wisconsin Union hinder ( UN Human Rights overrule in my opinion ) but can also a loss, depending what kind of view you have on using arms.

The momen that arms will be altered in ploughs is a long way...

[former9thward]

20. Treaties do not overrule the Constitution in the U.S.

Congress has an obligation to declare war if we are going that route. I hope we don't. This continues to escalate. First it was a no-fly zone. Now it is military action 'unless the attacks stop'.

[JanDutchy]

22. In the Netherlands that's upon the government to decide;

Parliament is bound, but can recall the Government.

Is that the same in your country where the President has that power amd Congress can overrule it?

[former9thward]

29. The U.S. has the War Powers Act.

The President can act to move our military without a declaration of war but Congress must ratify his actions in 60 days. If they don't the troops (or other military) must be withdrawn. Every President (including Obama) has stated the War Powers Act is unconstitutional but none has ever challenged it.

[rucky]

6. Well we probably shouldn't say we're not going to attack.

But we probably shouldn't attack, either.

[pampango]

7. Best use of our defense budget I've seen in a long time. Pay for it from unneeded and unwanted

weapons systems or some other part of our bloated defense budget.

If the UN had not authorized it, I wouldn't want us or any other country to intervene unilaterally. Since the UN sanctioned the action to protect civilians (living up to its responsibility), we need to participate, but it shouldn't come at the expense of social programs.

[msongs]

8. strong on far away dictators, meanwhile, at home.....shhhh nt

[Aerows]

11. Why we are going to Libya

We, as an international community never get involved anywhere except where there is a large oil supply. We can gild the lily all day. Darfur was a slaughter. Bahrain is turning into a slaughter. Yemen they have troops firing on their own citizens. We are lead to think it's about humanitarian reasons? Oh, gee, Yemen has little oil. Egypt has little oil. That's the correlation between why we get involved and why we don't.

I guess we are doing it for the humanitarian reasons that France and Italy get their oil from Libya. No, that couldn't be the reason.

What does Côte d'Ivoire produce? It isn't oil, and apparently we don't care about the suffering that is occurring there. Bahrain is a clearing house for gas refractories, but they produce nothing themselves.

We need to step up to the plate and admit what we are defending besides oil, and the supply lines of oil. Our USAF use more oil than any military on the planet. Explain to the public that we are defending anything but a resource - I want to hear our officials state that in light of the fact that we never seem to get involved in countries that have no oil.

We won't hear it, though, because it is not a defensible position.

There are many Americans facing extraordinary spending cuts - our teachers, our firefighters and our police officers. Why is it that we can afford to fight in Libya, but we can't afford to educate schoolchildren, or pay our firefighters, teachers and police officers? I'd like to see a senator or two get a deduction in pay first.

[JanDutchy]

12. Are you a member of a political party?

Background of the question: Maybe I'am naive, but I still believe and ve the experience that people working together - when the goal is outspoken one/same direction - can reach their goal.

Bottum Act: UP!

[Aerows]

13. Does my political party matter if I tell the plain truth?

Those are facts, my friend, and they aren't dependent upon a political party.

Can you please refute what I said based upon facts alone, instead of assuming I'm saying it for political reasons? I'm not - I'm saying it because it is what I believe, and what I believe the facts reveal.

[JanDutchy]

15. Not your party: just asking what your opinion in relation to a party is

So I didn't assume anything, I was just asking . You can off-course say: I don't like the question or whatever.

But you still hasn't give an answer.
But here is music tho overthink it". It is called "Sorry" from me to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TUzaW0-K1k

[Aerows]

17. That was gorgeous!

Thank you, that was an amazing performance, I had not seen that artist before.

[JanDutchy]

21. That's where people are for : 'at your service'! Still waiting...

[Aerows]

19. I had to watch it twice...

...incredible.

[joshcryer]

23. We? The 11 countries who have joined up?

Who are 'we'?

Bahrain is turning in to what Libya turned in to 3 weeks ago which is why your disconnect comes off as false. We'll see if Bahrain continues to escalate (military defections, bombing of civilians, etc). I hope it doesn't because the Libyan people have gone through hell the past month.

[ixion]

18. Yeah! 4 More Wars!! Woohoo! Shock and Awe for liberation, 'cause Freedom isn't Free!

:puke:

[joshcryer]

24. So should the international community allowed Gaddafi to raze Benghazi?

[ixion]

27. Of course not. The international community will go ahead and do it....

what do you think happens when you drop bombs?

[On the Road]

25. Good News --

I think Ghaddafi and his allies are going to be shocked at the thoroughness of the destruction of their air capability, air defense, airfields, tanks, and armored vehicles. It's going to resemble Saddam's army as it was retreating from Kuwait.

[IsItJustMe]

28. Same Bull Shit, different President. Notice the msm is also now chiming in with propaganda.

Coalition of the willing, Gaddafi is insane, Gaddafi is using mercenaries and Gaddafi is committing genocide.

I am sure there are some truths to what is being said, but it really is relative for middle eastern standards.

First the media demonisez the guy, and then we go in there kill him.

Oh yeah, Libyia does have oil, doesn't it?

[Gregorian]

30. I"ve got an idea. Just give Kadafi HALF the cost of the invasion. He'll leave.

Fuck.

And I say this from an ignorant perspective. For all I know, all of Libya wants to get rid of Kidafi. But my guess is we have commercial interests that need protecting.