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PSU84 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:43 PM
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Pentagon: 649 Americans Have Died In Iraq
A daily look at U.S. military deaths in Iraq

Associated Press, 4/9/2004 5:44 PM EDT

As of Friday, April 9, 2004, 649 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq last year, according to the Department of Defense. Of those, 455 died as a result of hostile action and 194 died of non-hostile causes.

Since May 1, when President Bush declared that major combat operations in Iraq had ended, 511 U.S. soldiers have died 346 as a result of hostile action and 165 of non-hostile causes, according to the military.

The latest deaths reported by the military:

A 1st Cavalry Division soldier died Friday in an attack in Taji, Iraq.

A 13th Corps Support Command soldier died Friday in an attack near Baghdad International Airport.

Three Marines with the First Marine Expeditionary Force died Thursday in an attack in Anbar province.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/100/nation/A_daily_look_at_U_S_military_d:.shtml
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:47 PM
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1. Lunaville @ 651 7:00 pm cst
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 06:47 PM by saigon68


Nancy Tunnell, right, a member of Veterans for Peace (VFP) smooths the sand at a memorial dedicated to American soldiers killed in Iraq (news - web sites) Sunday, April 4, 2004, in Santa Barbara, Calif. In silent protest every Sunday, VFP groups in Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, Calif., and Oceanside, Calif., erect white wooden crosses on the beach for every American serviceman killed in Iraq. (AP Photo/Ric Francis)
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Hotdiggitydog Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:36 PM
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9. There is this consistant discrepancy of 2 soldiers....
Anyone figure out why Lunaville always has a slightly higher count than the other news organizations?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:22 PM
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14. No idea
sorry
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:50 PM
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2. My local news reported tonight the number was 455....
:eyes: :evilfrown:
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PSU84 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:52 PM
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3. 455 is the number "killed in action"
Another 194 have died in accidents or by suicide.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:53 PM
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4. Your local news reporter is smoking Crack
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 06:54 PM by saigon68
That number is a Horse shit lie put out by Karl Rove and the NeoCons.

It means that unless you took a bullet in the head your life doesn't count.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:01 PM
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6. yeah wouldn't be surprised if they were.....
.....it's all fucked up...and my heart bleeds for every one of them and their loved ones....and all the rest over there caught up in this goddamn farce. :(
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:55 PM
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5. U.S. Army Spc. Tyanna Avery-Felder


U.S. Army Spc. Tyanna Avery-Felder, in this undated famiuly photo, who died April 7, 2004, in Iraq (news - web sites) as a result of wounds she received April 4, 2004, when the truck she was in hit an explosive device. (AP Photo/Family Photo)


RIP Trooper----------------saigon
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:29 PM
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18.  A haunting photo
I wonder if she had kids. Why was she there - was she a reservist? God only knows the things she had to see and do, all for Bush's criminal war for oil.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:07 AM
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22. That's sad. She looks so young.
I like her face. What a horror this war is, and for what, exactly?

Hope that cretin enjoys his fishing trip with his father.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:19 PM
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7. 649 is alot fewer people than have dies from cancer last year
Why don't liberals talk about cancer? These are the idiotic lines of reasoning we are facing. Listening to talk radio is just infuriating and yet I can't turn it off. I heard Michael Savage saying he was outraged that no one in Congress or the White House has come out and expressed anger about our troops getting killed. Maybe because it's a given that we don't like our soldiers getting killed, you douche bag. We can't control what the Iraqis will do to defend their country. We CAN control sending our troops to fight wars that don't make any sense.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:24 PM
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8. So I'm a douche bag for posting the soldier woman's picture?
She was in the service and was in Iraq and was killed there

What are you talking about?
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:47 PM
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11. of course not
I'm very saddened by every death I hear about as all of us are. I know people over there. It's just stupid to be mad at the Iraqis for this like Savage and others want us to be.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:38 PM
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20. I think he's ranting at Michael Savage
And not you. As we all know, whenever discussing Savage, douche bag is the proper term to use.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:44 PM
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10. It's not as many as the over 10,000 Iraqis we've killed.
I guess their lives don't even count enough to count. At least cancer deaths are counted. :eyes:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:06 PM
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12. Wow! I almost lost it!
Boy, I just about jumped all over you for you post till I read it a second third time. I now know what you are trying to say, and I agree. Sorry, I may be slow on the pick up and I'm a little edgy lately so I'll let it slide this time. In the future please try to construct your thoughts in a linear fashion for the occasional idiot reader on DU, like me. - Thanks.


Wow! Something the Weiner and I agree on!
I heard Michael Savage saying he was outraged that no one in Congress or the White House has come out and expressed anger about our troops getting killed
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:39 PM
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15. jeez
I guess I didn't say that well at all! Although I do like to make my opening line a teaser like that so maybe someone will read my posts!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:10 PM
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13. You can view 642 of them, by name, state, keyword... here:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:35 PM
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19. Thank you for the link. Very sobering.
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 11:36 PM by Caliphoto
I went through page after page... so many faces. It's unbearable. I don't understand how people can hate those of us that protested this unjust war.. we supported the troops, by trying to keep them out of this tragedy in the making. They didn't have to die.

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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:52 PM
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16. Does this include all deaths from the Iraqi War?
I heard somewhere that the Pentagon does not report soldiers who have died from wounds after they leave Iraq. If someone is flown to a hospital in Germany or back in the US and subsequently dies, it is not counted in the official tally. Is this true? If so, does anyone know the real number?
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:21 PM
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17. Absolutely disgusting
All for what, lies? A country that doesn't want us there? Some victory.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:39 PM
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21. OpEd in the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A565-2004Apr9.html

Lawrence F. Kaplan says a survey shows that the American public will "tolerate" 29,853 fatalities among our troops in Iraq, and that it is our leaders who get happy feet when casualty rates rise, not average Americans.



His conclusion is false because his premises are false.


In what alternative universe is that Lawrence Kaplan living in?

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:30 AM
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23. Lawrence F. Kaplan sounds PNAC insane
He wrote a book with PNAC member William Kristol, so that ought to tell you something. Slate says he isn't actually a member of PNAC, but he sounds pretty cozy. I am sure 30,000 dead Americans and a few hundred thousand dead Iraqis is no sweat to him.

The War Over Iraq: Saddam's Tyranny and America's Mission
Lawrence F. Kaplan and William Kristol
Encounter Books, 2003

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:30 AM
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24. Lawrence F. Kaplan sounds PNAC insane
He wrote a book with PNAC member William Kristol, so that ought to tell you something. Slate says he isn't actually a member of PNAC, but he sounds pretty cozy. I am sure 30,000 dead Americans and a few hundred thousand dead Iraqis is no sweat to him.

The War Over Iraq: Saddam's Tyranny and America's Mission
Lawrence F. Kaplan and William Kristol
Encounter Books, 2003

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:56 AM
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25. If this week's rate continues, there'll be 2000 dead by election day
At the rate of "whatever-you-want-to-call-them-in-theatre-deaths" that this week has shown, that would project somewhere around 200 deaths a month.

Nobody knows what's really going to happen. Maybe cooler heads will prevail. Maybe it's a spike that will end as current insurgent units are depleted. Then again, maybe a real popular uprising gives them a few solid victories that whet their appetite for more. Certainly, seeing attacks on the convoys shows that the locals aren't just a bunch of hothead fanatics who love to go out in a blaze of glory: attacking the support system spreads troops out and makes mere resupply very troublesome.

What a mess.

The very idea of sending 2000 Marines to "pacify" a city of 300,000 is crazy.
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