Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Smoking Gun "bin Laden Determined..." PDB memo to be released

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:00 PM
Original message
Smoking Gun "bin Laden Determined..." PDB memo to be released
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=1&u=/nm/20040409/ts_nm/security_bush_dc_4

White House Works to Declassify Al Qaeda Threat Memo



By Steve Holland

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) -

---snip---

Officials said the (one and one-half page) memo was not expected to be released on Friday and appeared more likely to come out as early as Saturday.
Bush was spending the week at his ranch near Crawford, Texas, and was being joined by members of his family for Easter weekend. His national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, was also expected in Crawford for Easter.
The memo's title -- "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States" -- was revealed on Thursday in public testimony by Rice, and was a subject of close questioning.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. The only edit : change "bush" to "Clinton" throughout the memo,
then release it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I'll believe it when I see it! The release date was August 5th
....couldn't figure out why then and why on that date? I realize changes have to be made, so if everything is on the square just whip it out and give it to me straight.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Land of the Free Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Unfortunately
This memo won't amount to shit. There is NOOOOOOO WAY Bush will let it out if it would. NEVER EVER EVER EVER!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:29 AM
Response to Reply #5
18. It amounts alright
except for Bush aoplogists
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:09 PM
Response to Original message
3. Memo
They always release bad news or embarrassing news late on Friday or early Saturdays...'cause they expect no one (the "liberal media") to pay attention and whatever it is blow over by Monday.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
4. I heard on the radio that it will be redacted
surprised?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:16 PM
Response to Original message
6. Just a reminder, the title has been out in Public for 2 years or so
(As mentioned by the Daily Howler)

Do the following Google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Bin+Laden+Determined+to+Strike+in+U.S.%22&btnG=Google+Search

Several webpages mention the title as early as May 2002
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Arbustosux Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:31 PM
Response to Original message
7. it can't be damaging to Bush given the speed at which it was declassified!
count on it!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:37 PM
Response to Original message
8. Released portion of Memo

To: President Bush
Re: "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"
Date: August 6, 2001
From: Richard Clarke

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXand theXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX But he XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
I believe XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx

End of Memorandum. Thank you
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. You forgot the p.s.
p.s. Mr. President, I must state again that the use of sock puppets as a means to inform you of impending threats is beneath the dignity of the office, and I don't appreciate my nickname, "Bandstand", either!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:42 PM
Response to Original message
9. a message to W's guests... "Dont drink the Grape CoolAid !!".....
:toast: :beer: O8)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 05:43 PM
Response to Original message
10. Am I the only one here who smells a set-up?
This all just seems too easy and convenient. I'll bet this memo has been manufactured out of whole cloth to seem like it's damaging only to amount to nothing, so the BFEE can scream, "I told you so!!" And even though it proves nothing and does not let the Bushies off the hook, the good puppy press will trumpet it to the skies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:18 PM
Response to Original message
12. Incriminating portions of it...
will be blacked out I'm sure. I have no doubt that the American public will not see the REAL PDB or all of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
13. It will be interesting to see how much is blacked out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Why Redacting? I thought it was just "Historical" per Condi
Why do they need to "black out" anything, since Condi assured us under oath that it was just a listing of "historical" information? Just Old News, nothing to worry about.

I SMELL A RAT. . .
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
notbush Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:49 PM
Response to Original message
14. I don't think there's any there, there.
The commission has already seen the unredacted memo.That's my understanding from watching yesterday's hearing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. The only ones who've seen the memo
the ENTIRE memo, is Gorelick and Zelikow. Remember, Bush made them come to the White House to see it. They couldn't take a copy of it out of the special room they were placed in to read it, and even their notes were scrutinized before they could leave. Roemer made a motion during the hearing yesterday that he's only seen a paragraph of the memo at the most.

I can't help but wonder if the worst part of the memo came out in testimony yesterday. The title was pretty damning as well as the mention of OBL planning to hijack planes. THAT is the smoking gun. they knew and did nothing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bozvotros Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. So what exactly did Bushco tell the FAA before 911?
Rice said they gave warnings to them....What was it? Maybe something like:

"If you know what is good for you and your industry, you won't be scaring people off the airlines with high visible security and extra precautions."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 04:20 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC