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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:10 PM
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Ohio senator: GOP tries to take down unions, and so did Hitler and Stalin
Source: The Hill

Ohio senator: GOP tries to take down unions, and so did Hitler and Stalin
By Jordan Fabian - 03/03/11 02:00 PM ET

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) took to the Senate floor Thursday to defend labor unions, saying that dictators like Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin opposed them.

Brown said that unions have wrongly come under attack from Republicans and conservatives, who are pitting workers against one another in states like his, where governments are taking action on anti-union legislation. Though he said he was not making a direct comparison, Brown claimed that "some of the worst governments we've ever had" have opposed labor unions.

"As a nation, I look back in history and some of the worst governments we've ever had, you know one of the the first thing they did? They went after the trade unions," he said. "Hitler didn't want unions, Stalin didn't want unions. Mubarak didn't want independent unions."

Rhetoric over anti-union bills in Wisconsin and Ohio has reached a fever pitch, and politicians in Washington have adopted the cause to make political points.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/147323-ohio-senator-hitler-stalin-didnt-want-unions
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:16 PM
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1. Sherrod needs to get it right. The billionaires are backing governors who are taking actions.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:16 PM
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2. The point being BAD fucks hate unions.
Bad, nasty, criminal people hate it when people control their own destiny.

Don't give me that "Godwins Law" horseshit. You look like Wyatt Derp when you do.
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Boswell Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:22 PM
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3. Well daddy Krock did work for Stalin
so naturally they try to recreate that...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:35 PM
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6. All of the "best" right wing families made money off of fascist oppressors
They still do it through China.

WWII gave them butthurt because now they have to pretend NOT to be fascists. They have to get all "american's for prosperity" and all the rest for a fine presentation. Don't think it does not piss them off every day that Hitler did not win WWII.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:27 PM
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26. Koch Bros. also financed the DLC ....
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:26 PM
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4. FINALLY! SOMEONE GETZ IT!
There is more...if you seek...good post.. thank you! ;)


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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:28 PM
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5. K and R all Pro Union/Democratic Party threads
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:46 PM
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7. And the first thing they did in Egypt when
Mubarak fell was form an independent union.
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mr_liberal Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 05:53 PM
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8. Hitler banned guns and smoking too. nm
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:52 PM
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10. Hitler did not ban guns: the Nazis actually made it easier for many Germans to possess guns
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 07:42 PM
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11. Hitler smokes choads in hell.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 06:08 PM
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9. So did paul bremer when bush the idiot invaded Iraq.
repugs are anti union for everyone on this planet.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 07:51 PM
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12. He's right, but...
...it's generally always bad to run with the Hitler comparisons. If your going Hitler, your generally losing the debate.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:46 PM
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16. The right wing has changed all that by using it on Obama.
It is now a trend to actually point out fascistic trends and tendencies where factually applicable.

My word, the world is changin' so fast!
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:58 PM
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17. Meh, the right didn't do anything new...
They've been comparing Democrats and liberals to Hitler and Stalin forever. And in some cases, people on the left compared Reagan and Bush to Hitler or Mussolini.

It is true that Hitler banned, arrested and killed labor union leaders and advocates, but it really just isn't a good idea to run with Hitler comparisons. Even when they are accurate or put in proper context as they were in this case, the Hitler card just falls flat. It's been used inappropriately so many times that the public just reacts negatively to it almost no matter what.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 09:45 PM
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18. Once again: see USA,, see USA change,
it's not falling flat anymore. People are seeing that maybe something good isn't happening in USA.

The public has removed thumb from bottom. See USA changing. Change USA, change!

And yes,The corporate media will keep telling you that it's not a good idea. Good luck with all that.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:18 PM
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13. These are really interesting times.
I remember the last big economic downturn, in the 80's and it seemed like people were much more willing to make concessions than they are now.

I was watching The News Hour just now and they had stuff about Wisconsin, people picketing Blue Cross in California over rate increases.

I think the 80's were the beginning of the class war, and the whole global trade thing was getting started and gave businesses some cover, but now, I really think that the whole inequality of wealth issue------people that aren't really that into politics are starting to understand it. I PRAY the dems and all of us keep pointing it out that it's NOT like the 80's. There's plenty of money in the country for everybody to live a good life if the people demand their share.

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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:27 PM
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15. well
I think that in the 80s, there were real concessions. Both sides compromised. Now, concessions aren't good enough; suddenly, what the government wants, the government gets
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 08:26 PM
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14. Sherrod Brown is awesome
I love having a politician from my state that I can actually be proud of
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:48 PM
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19. When Republicans Invoke Hitler, Its Okay, But Watch Glenn Beck Lose His Mind On This One
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:44 AM
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20. 3, 2, 1....
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:28 PM
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27. A little late on that.
Beck lost his mind years ago.
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 02:34 PM
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21. There's that right wing hate speech again. Oh wait.
I hate when either party compares any action to Hitler or Stalin or slavery. None of these types of actions compare.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:08 PM
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22. So....do we have to see the .........
smoke from the death camps before it's an accurate comparison?

I'd, PERSONALLY, rather compare the NUMEROUS and ACCURATE incidents of fascistlike behaviors BEFORE the death camps are established. I think it would be easier to stop it BEFORE they start building the death camps. But that's just me.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 03:19 PM
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23. The *specific* comparison is quite valid.
The *specific* comparison is quite valid.
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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:11 PM
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24. The Red Squirrel! n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 04:24 PM
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25. Exactly .... many don't realize that the original NAZI party was pro-labor and unions ... women's
rights -- right to abortion, etal --

AFTER it was taken over by Hitler is when it was turned upside down!!

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