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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:01 AM
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Russia calls on US to halt latest offensive in Iraq
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040409/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_russia_us_call&cid=1514&ncid=1473

MOSCOW (AFP) - Russia called on US-led forces to halt their offensive against Iraqi insurgents and refrain from the "disproportionate" use of force in the war-torn nation.

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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:02 AM
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1. Ever the voice of reason. Cynical bastards...
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:03 AM
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3. If Russia is 'cynical'
the US could use a little more of their cynicism.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:54 AM
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8. WHOA! Who do you think has suffered from terrorism more?
I guarantee you Russia has. They know where payback is headed.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:03 AM
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2. They're correct
although they should listen to themselves concerning Chechnya.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:17 AM
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4. That's True, But There is a Huge Difference
Chechnya is part of Russia, not some country on the other side of the world. Russia is not shooting civilians in Mexico.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:36 AM
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6. Yes. Imagine the US coolly calling on Russian-led forces to halt their
offensive in Mexico. Hard to do, isn't it? Then we should all be glad for Russian restraint regarding US adventurism on its doorstep.
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yltlatl Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 12:11 PM
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9. PLEASE
So that gives them a right to level Grozny and rape, murder and pillage throughout Chechnya? I've even heard it alleged that they've used chemical weapons there. The Russians--or at least Putin and his ilk--are cynical bastards who are just taking advantage of the situation to play goody-goody on the world stage.
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:51 PM
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16. yup. putin is russia's george w.
well i guess i shouldn't say that, because putin is clearly far more capable. but in terms of their "leadership style" they are one in the same, IMO.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:44 PM
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14. it is not now and has never willingly been so..
routinely invaded and occupied, with thousands repeatedly killed in a genocidal policy in the region, but never a status accepted.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:50 PM
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15. The war with Mexico was quite awhile back
And the US only stole half of their country. The US has changed much from them days, they now hire poor or desperate Mexicans emigrants to fight and die on the other side of the globe.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:28 AM
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5. Well, heck, Junior walked into that one by whining to Putin for Help!
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He's gotta remember when he's talking to Putin,

no matter WHAT Putin is,

He ain't STUPID!!

Bush has 'serious concerns' for Iraq

From correspondents in Moscow
April 9, 2004

US President George W. Bush and Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin expressed "serious concern" in a phone conversation Thursday about the escalating violence in Iraq, as well as Kosovo and Afghanistan, the Kremlin said.

Bush telephoned Putin as the two leaders discussed relations amid NATO's recent expansion into seven former Soviet satellites, and renewed Russian statements that it had warned the United States that the war in Iraq was a mistake.

The Kremlin statement said Bush and Putin "expressed serious concern about the absence of progress in resolving regional problems and the escalation of violence."

It said Putin then expressed "his strongest resolve" to try and resolve the conflicts through the United Nations.



I KNEW this was coming!!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:02 PM
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10. Is Unca Dickie on the extension when * makes his calls?
I can't imagine how he'd know what to say, otherwise.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 11:50 AM
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7. Pooty-Poot has all the sincerity of his "soul-mate"
Both Bunnypants* AND Pooty-Poot are Tyrants imposing "managed democracy" (the next form of Totalitarianism, apparently) on their nations, one recently freed, the other which should know better but doesn't

Sorry, but Pooty-Poot's Pouting means little to me (though Imight agree with his sentiments) for the same reason I have learned to ignore Bunnpyants' and his "crocodile" exulting of "freedom" :puke:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:20 PM
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11. when Russia starts making sense
that is a sign more than any that the U.S. is upside-down
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:26 PM
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12. At what point do we call it genocide?
What are the international criteria for genocide war crimes? If a country invades and occupies another country, then kills everyone there who doesn't agree with the occupation, is it genocide?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 01:38 PM
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13. "Tis genocide anyway 'ya wanna dice it
It appear junior threw a an ACE DUCE on his first roll of the dice with foreign policy.

If junior doesn't walk away he can always shoot again, that is if he stills has a BR (Bank Roll)


Lady Luck?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 12:54 AM
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17. What a funny photo, 0007.
Prince Abdullah looks a little surprised.

My take on the Russian warning: Mr. Putin was trying to make the point to Bush that they are not happy about what is happening in Iraq. They see the situation rapidly spiraling out of control. The danger is that this could quite possibly suck in the entire Middle East and become an inferno which would pull in other major powers like Russia and Europe.

They are watching aghast in horrified disbelief, along with the rest of the world, as the US has transformed itself from a democratic country to a rogue state. My brain still refuses to register that my country is involved in senseless, brutal killing of innocent people.

It's not a small thing. There has to be some kind of balance in the world. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US became the world's only superpower. The old balance is gone.

If the scales of power are overwhelmingly in favor of one country, all sorts of bad things happen, like oil grabs.

So Putin is saying to Bush: you continue at your peril.
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