(Gov.) Kasich ending bargaining for state workers (Ohio)

[pampango]

Source: Dayton Daily News

Gov. John Kasich and Republican lawmakers made it clear this week that big changes are coming to the public employees collective bargaining law as the state looks to close an $8 billion budget gap. “All of this is an effort to reduce the cost of government to reduce the tax burden on families and job creators,” said Rob Nichols, spokesman for Kasich.

Kasich said Thursday if lawmakers don’t dismantle public employees collective bargaining then he will. “All this is rooted in job creation.”

It’s a fight shaping up with unions in states across the country, particularly those with Republican-dominated governments that are in fiscal trouble. Indiana, Idaho and Tennessee all have legislation in the works that would scale back or eliminate collective bargaining.

A study by the Buckeye Institute, a conservative think tank, found Ohio’s public workers made more than private sector counterparts Liberal counterpart, Policy Matters Ohio, released a report Thursday that found Ohio’s public employees are paid less than those in the private sector. More than 300,000 public employees in Ohio belong to unions, including teachers, police, firefighters, municipal employees and state workers.

Read more: http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/ohio-news/kasich-ending-bargaining-for-state-workers-1079462.html

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Nothing like a budget deficit to justify an attack on unions, hey, John. The story really didn't need to identify you as a repub. That much would be obvious from your actions.

[Solly Mack]

1. K&R

[liberal N proud]

2. This asshole is not wasting any time bringing Ohio workers to their knees

[Mopar151]

3. So this Gov thinks he can legislate away a contract?

Teacher pay, and education in general, is a favorite target of neocons/malcontents everywhere. IMHO, a lot of it has to do with hating their own education, and "smarties" in general.
Aren't here some federal labor laws governing this?

[MilesColtrane]

6. The National Labor Relations Act which protects collective bargaining doesn't cover...

public employees.

This is a concerted effort to destroy public employee unions, which make up more than half of all unionized workers in the U.S.

[madmom]

4. Well, I hope all my neighbors, several of them are teachers, are happy. They put out

their repug yard signs every election cycle and are very vocal in LTTE in our local repug rag. Sucks to be you.:nopity:

[we can do it]

5. I Can't Understand It. People Who Vote Against Their Own Best Interests

[WestSeattle2]

10. If you get a chance, watch "Red State"; a documentary film that

answers that very question:

http://www.redstatethemovie.com/movieinfo.php

It was a real eye-opener for me. Basically, there are millions of people in this country who are dirt poor and don't care to be otherwise. Social issues are what they base their vote on. The two issues many of those interviewed were most fervent about, were the pro-life and anti-gay causes. I remember one interview took place outside a mobile home. The mother, father and son all worked at Walmart. Missing teeth, poor health, a trashy house, beat up cars, and their major concern? "The gays." The movie was made in 2006 as I recall, not in 1956 as one would believe.

I walked away from that film aghast that so many American's live like that. It's a world that would be totally foreign to most American's living on the coasts.

[54anickel]

24. Thom Hartmann's CPAC review? At about 7.5 minutes in he summarizes the demographics there

The whole video is worth checking out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x552881

We're up against a lot of money propagating the conservative agenda.

edit to add:
It goes way beyond the social conservative, they weren't even represented at CPAC and are put down by the fiscal conservative types there. Guess they are still considered useful fodder for votes, but they're distancing.

[The Nexus]

57. For a second I thought you were talking about the Kevin Smith film of the same name

nt

[CLANG]

79. Thanks for the tip - I just ordered it!

[MadMaddie]

85. "Guns, Gays and Religion"

He was right wasn't he?

It's pathetic....

[gardentoad]

27. Exactly.

I heard so much crap during the GM bailout about how all UAW workers were lazy and overpaid.
I'll give them the same support they gave my family.

[Capt Lionel Mandrake]

36. Knuckle-Dragging Teachers

I'm a teacher myself, and the number of knuckle-draggers among
my colleagues would impress most zoo keepers on the qui vive
for an ape. Don't bet on teachers to know anything about 20th
century politics, much less to be sympathetic to "the
people." In fact, 70% of the Social Studies teachers in
my high school wouldn't dream of even thinking, much less
saying, anything controversial.

[Plucketeer]

61. My wife's a civics teacher in a public High School

She and I follow politics in every level of government, and we DO have opinions! That said, she has to be careful of what she says regarding politics - either ON or OFF campus. We live and a blood red district of a blue state. If anyone sniffed even the faintest hint of an inequity of what she presents to her students, she could be called on the carpet.

[border_town]

7. You get what you vote for

The people of Ohio will suffer at their own hands. What can you say. Sorry Ohio, sorry Florida, sorry Wisconsin, sorry New Jersey, for voting in these guys? Until people pull together and vote for their best interest this will happen over and over again.

[Lugnut]

21. Bingo!

I will never understand why some voters choose to slit their own throats.

[OnyxCollie]

43. System Justification Theory.

A Decade of System Justification Theory:
Accumulated Evidence of Conscious and Unconscious
Bolstering of the Status Quo

www.psych.nyu.edu/jost/Jost,%20Banaji,%20&%20Nosek%20(2004)%20A%20Decade%20of%20System%20Justificati.pdf

(The link is too long. Copy & paste, and remove the space before the parenthesis.)

Most theories in social and political psychology stress self-interest, intergroup conflict, ethnocentrism,
homophily, ingroup bias, outgroup antipathy, dominance, and resistance.
System justification theory is influenced by these perspectives—including social identity
and social dominance theories—but it departs from them in several respects. Advocates of
system justification theory argue that (a) there is a general ideological motive to justify the
existing social order, (b) this motive is at least partially responsible for the internalization
of inferiority among members of disadvantaged groups, (c) it is observed most readily at
an implicit, nonconscious level of awareness and (d) paradoxically, it is sometimes
strongest among those who are most harmed by the status quo. This article reviews and
integrates 10 years of research on 20 hypotheses derived from a system justification perspective,
focusing on the phenomenon of implicit outgroup favoritism among members of
disadvantaged groups (including African Americans, the elderly, and gays/lesbians) and
its relation to political ideology (especially liberalism-conservatism).

[creon]

68. Good paper

That paper does a good job of describing reality and has a good expanation for it.

[OnyxCollie]

86. Here's more on the subject, if you're interested.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x582516#582649
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x582516#582750

[creon]

91. Thank you

Good material !!

[felinetta]

28. That was my first thought. Wonder if this will wake them up.

[femrap]

30. Dumfukistan, the former

state of Ohio. Dems in NE Ohio did NOT get out and vote in 2010. Now we have this asshole for gov....a former Lehman Bros. partner. He's a Wall Street thief and gets elected. We have many dumfukistanis in dumfukistan. I see it everyday.

Why a teacher would vote for a repuke is beyond me.

As an aside....just look at the other headlines of this Dayton newspaper...along the right hand column. It's hideous. This is what dumfukistanis like to read. It's just gross.

I have to get out of here.

[OnyxCollie]

45. Thank Karl Rove and American Crossroads

for all the negative campaign ads against Strickland

"Strickland didn't get the job done..."

On edit: Now I'm not sure if American Crossroads was behind the Strickland ads. I do know they were responsible for the Rob Portman ads.

What I really dislike the most is knowing that that little toad Mike DeWine is the new Attorney General.

[femrap]

48. the fact that

this waste of human flesh is not in jail just causes me grief.

[we can do it]

55. Me Too, I Am Very Concerned About My Pension (Firefighter)

I can't believe the idiot union autoworkers, teachers etc who vote against our best interest...what can we do really? I get out and canvass, email, talk but its seems overwhelmingly stupid here.....

[femrap]

82. Where did all

the smart people go??? Or is it people listening to Faux News that is dumbing down the populace? School systems don't teach critical thinking anymore. And of course LESS THAN HALF of the eligible voters voted in 2010 in Ohio.

Check out the article in 'Yes' magazine that discusses a movement called UK Uncut. Sorry that I don't have the link...it was inspiring to me and may provide us w/ some ideas when AUSTERITY really starts to hit people in Ohio.

Good Luck in Dumfukistan!

[Botany]

8. All this from a guy who when working for Lehmann Brothers got Ohio ..

.... to invest $480 million of public employees pension funds into a Lehmann
Fund that went belly up as Lehmann Brothers went into the tank screwing the
workers out of just about all of that money but John waled w/ a huge commission
check for himself that till this day he will not discuss just how much he made
in that scam.

BTW it is the Unions not the 16 years of Republican control in Ohio that
put our economy into the shitter :sarcasm:

[lonestarnot]

11. Therein lies evidence of the root of the problem scammers, bilkers and thieves. Apparently Ohiol

likes it. They voted for it. :puke: Or did they really? :shrug:

[sulphurdunn]

34. In Ohio and Florida

there is precedent for questioning how votes are counted, if counted at all.

[femrap]

37. Actually, Jennifer Brunner

our Sec'y of State oversaw this election. She is a fine Democrat of great integrity. From what I've read, it was NE Ohio (Cleveland) that simply did not GOTV. The Dems simply didn't have a good message, supposedly. Hell, it's Dumfukistan and that's says it all, imho.

If they had, Strickland would still be in office.

[OnyxCollie]

47. "Jennifer Brunner... is a fine Democrat of great integrity."

Apparently not the qualities the DSCC was looking for when backing a candidate.

Instead they backed that loser, Fisher.

[femrap]

51. Harry Reid doesn't

want a True Democrat w/ Integrity in the US Senate.

With no money, she ran a great campaign...he didn't win by that much. Yet, he still won....and now look what we have....Portman:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[OnyxCollie]

52. Yup.

Fair and accurate voting advocate in the Senate? Not a chance in hell.

[54anickel]

9. Walker is doing the same thing in WI. Wonder if there are other states not mentiioned. Anyone? n/t

[elocs]

17. "Walker: No negotiation with unions":

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/article_dbfe5872-3665-11e0-94e7-001cc4c002e0.html

Saying those who didn’t see it coming must have been in a “coma,” Gov. Scott Walker unveiled sweeping legislation Friday that would severely curtail public employee rights and dramatically change the way the state negotiates with unions.

Officials alerted the Wisconsin State Employees Union on Friday that expired collective bargaining agreements would be canceled March 13. State unions have been operating under the terms of those previous contracts, an arrangement that can be terminated with 30 days’ notice.

The news came on the same day the governor unveiled a budget repair bill that would remove nearly all collective bargaining rights for nearly all public employees in the state and make it easier for employers to fire workers who engage in some form of labor unrest.

To union leaders, and many Democratic lawmakers, the governor’s moves represent an all-out effort to end the influence of organized labor in Wisconsin.

[54anickel]

67. Wow! We also made the NYTimes!

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/12/us/12unions.html?_r=2

[socialist_n_TN]

22. Tennessee. They're starting with the teacher's..........

union, but I don't doubt that other public sector unions will be targeted next. I'm calling the AFL-CIO to see if there's anything I can do to help.

[SHRED]

12. K&R

[olegramps]

13. When workers vote against their own interest it is hard to feel sorry for them.

[dotymed]

14. Indiana, Ohio's neighbor

also has a Republican Governor, Mitch Daniels.
His first official act as Governor was to force all state employees to quit their Union. Mitch was previously Bush's budget director. He became Indiana's Governor in 2002(?), he has "leased" major infrastructure to foreign investors (mainly from the M.E.) for a period of 75 years, while his term is only 2 or 4 years. BTW, he refused to live in the Governors mansion and built his family a different mansion in a gated community.

Ohio is the home to the oldest surviving Carpenters Union in America, (local 2 in Cincinnati), hopefully they will join the fight against this Dictator.

[femrap]

32. Kasich won't live in the

governor's mansion either....he's staying at his McMansion, but the taxpayers have to pay for all the new security....I wonder if we'll ever know how much that is.

I always knew this asshole would someday be governor....I just hoped I would be dead by then.

I wish kasich would just sell the state to Canada.

[NEOhiodemocrat]

65. Article in paper (down in Cinncinnati, my sister's)

said it would be 6.4 million to upgrade the security to his house. He is too good to live in the governor's mansion I guess. (He says it is because of the security for his daughters, could have thought of that before he ran) And what do we, the taxpayers get for that 6.4 million? Not a thing. Of course he gets expensive upgrade to his property.

[femrap]

81. And he is worried about

the 'budget.' Please...what a hypocrite. I wonder if he has boats in the reservoir behind his house patrolling night and day???

What's he so scared of anyway? Coward.

[dotymed]

89. The majority,IMO.

[Joanne98]

15. Young people are leaving this state in droves. After 2008 there was hope,

But now since the pukes have taken over again there's nothing to look foward too.

Ohio has too many fundies. The misery loves company crowd. They even complain about people who love their animals. I'm sure they all voted for Kasich. They don't care that he's a Wall Street criminal, just as long as he brings austerity to everyone.

Conservatives are filth!

[rucky]

18. I'm planning my escape, too.

If anyone elsewhere is looking for a Pro/E designer, I'm available.

[Joanne98]

20. I'd like to leave too but I'm stuck here for now. Bummer!

[femrap]

38. Me, too.

I think WVa would be a better place to live. No debt. But it, too, has its own problems.

I guess I will just continue to :hide: from the Dumfukistanis.

Could you elaborate on what you said about dumfukistanis not liking animals??? I must have missed that bunch of stupidity.

[Doremus]

16. Public employees RISE UP!

It's now or never folks.

[Roy Rolling]

19. "job creators"?

It seems like with unemployment so high the "job creators" are the ones who have failed and need to be cut back. "Job creation" is the unchallenged buzzword nowadays---it should be challenged at every mention of it. Prove to me they are creating jobs before you eliminate someone else's job.

[socialist_n_TN]

23. The only "job creator" is DEMAND.............

Until workers have money and security, there won't BE any demand. Ask them at every turn if the rich are going to hire someone without a DEMAND for their products!

[tomg]

49. Straight Ayn Randian

garbage and language.

Step 1: break unions, eliminate benefits for most private sector workers, off shore jobs every step of the way. Step 2: tax breaks to the wealthy and corporations to "stimulate the economy" and "prevent" jobs from going overseas, while increasing local and state taxes to keep local and state government going which puts even more pressure on the middle class and, of course, continue undercutting the manufacturing base in the country. Step 3: blame the problem on the "unions and the public sector employees" who have the middle-class job security and benefits that the private sector workers had stolen from then but make sure you present what was the norm as excessive. And present parasites as job creators and job doers and stuff makers as parasites. And while Walker in Wisconsin has threatened to bring out the National Guard, Ohio has the history of doing it.

Little off topic but one of the RSA animates by leftist sociologist David Harvey - brillantly obvious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0&feature=player_embedded

[adigal]

78. The Ayn Rand who took Social Security and Medicare??

Under the name of her husband???

[tomg]

87. That's the one. nt

[Jefferson23]

25. Appalling! n/t

[Citizen Worker]

26. Is it time for a general strike? Yes, but we won't. The problem is that most workers don't see the

struggle of others as their own struggle. Until we do this will continue. Now is the time to stand up and fight back or remain passive waiting for your own trip to the gallows.

[quakerboy]

73. I guess we have to wait till we get to a much worse state

It seems most people are pretty laid back about the whole thing, they got theirs, sorta, so its not worth rocking the boat.

[Marthe48]

29. I was born and raised in Ohio

I thought my parents were Democrats until after they died and my sister told me they were Republicans. Think that says a lot about middle of the road beliefs.

The people who call themselves Republicans now are making Ohio a toilet. The people who encourage the belief that being poor, stupid, sick and toothless is ok are slavemasters, not fit to hold public office or head corporations.

I thought Ohio was better than this, well, I thought my country was better than this. But the people who were elected, faulty voting machines or not, want to keep running the war machine they created. So they will feed jobs, then people, then domestic programs, then infrastructure into the maw of their war machine, and grind it all into dust. If our nation wasn't supporting 2 illegal invasions, and how many more incursions we don't know about, we wouldn't be losing the things our parents and grandparents fought so hard for.

[femrap]

35. +1000

Great post.

I, too, was born and raised in Ohio. I left for many years, then came back and simply didn't recognize the state. I guess most of the Brains left the state and more fundies moved in.

Since the 2010 election, I now refer to Ohio as Dumfukistan.

[mvd]

46. You're not alone. I feel the same way about PA

We have Corbett and Toomey. And Toomey for SIX years! That guy is Santorum 2. Corbett just decided not to fund the very popular AdultBasic health insurance program in PA. Independence Blue Cross followed right along in supporting the decision. I assume Philly didn't GOTV enough, letting the wackos in PA decide this election. PA can be very Democratic or very Republican. Have to watch for this union-hating nonsense coming to PA soon. If our Party was better at messaging, we could easily paint this as job killing.

[femrap]

50. It is 'job killing'...

what does he plan to do ..... get rid of 2 State employees and make one private employee do the job???

But I really don't think there are many Dems who get their campaign funds from Corporations that really want to fight this message.

It is a hateful, brutal country now. Fascism for all!

[shanti]

70. i'm so sorry!

the repukes tried that here in california, but they're gone now, thank dog! schwarzennegger was pushing this meme at the governor's meetings, so i'm not surprised that it is happening more now.

[bulloney]

31. Didn't this jackass significantly increase the pay of his executive staff as soon as he took office?

Isn't he living in his own home instead of the executive mansion normally provided for the governor, increasing the cost of security?

Typical Lehman Bros. worker mentality. Heap all of the riches to the elite and make the rest of us fight for table scraps they leave.

And I concur with other posts. I know several people who benefit from collective bargaining who voted for this asshole for reasons I can't figure out. Now, with this news and other announcements he's made, they're having voters' remorse.

Well, no shit, Sherlock. What do you think we've been trying to tell you?

[Capt Lionel Mandrake]

33. Cranial Crested American Voters

Generally Americans don't read. The non-reading Americans
instead prefer the big wide telebision, sports events,
internet porn, and glad-handing and high-fiveing to reading
anything. If they read, they prefer romances, mysteries,
sci-fi, and sports pages to anything intellectual or profound.
Non-reading fools and Telebision watchers voted for this
governor of Ohio. So did the voters in Wisconsin vote for
theirs (a bastard as big as Ohio's). These voters deserve what
they get, and what they're getting is poverty, ignorance, loss
of civil rights, and despair. Don't these voters know
anything? Have they learned nothing? No, they've learned
nothing. During the past 12 years, they've learned nothing and
continue voting for "free trade enthusiasts," DNC
and RNC favorites, the mainstream "elite" that is
destroying America with its fatuous business philosophy.
Americans are on their way down. Too bad they're taking me and
my family down, too. 

[Populist_Prole]

60. Outstanding observation

I'm like you in that I feel as much contempt for those that I should be sympathetic toward...and how they're taking me down with them. I too am very very disheartened with the unabashed, even enthusiastic, anti-intellectualism the non-reading crowd you speak of has. They're interested in such BS fluff with absolutely no gravity. I may as well go for broke in my own contempt for them: Were they to overhear or read the weighty and profound discourse between DU members here ( or other progressive discourse ) it would at the very best fly right under their radars, and at worst, would be regarded with derision as the ramblings of the pointy-headed who don't know how to enjoy life.

Oh, had to edit this in; Welcome to DU.

[creon]

69. Yes

That is it exactly.
They fully deserve what they get.
I very seriously doubt that any of them will ever understand what happened and why it happened. I doubt if they will even notice.

[Deep13]

39. Hey, we have to protect our priorities...

...prisons and ending the Ohio estate tax.

[bulloney]

40. He also wants to privatize everything, which will be a short-term infusion of money.

Once that runs out, there will be even less of a revenue stream for the state. Of course, Kasich won't care. He'll be out of the office by the time the effects take hold.

Typical selfish, short-term vision of a former Wall Street hack.

[manicdrummer]

41. Gov. Walker of Wisconsin is doing the same thing.

Go to Madison.com and the whole front page contains links to stories about Gov. Scott Walker snubbing his nose at unionized state employees. He's even threatened to bring in National Guard troops to take over the day-to-day operations of the State Department of Corrections if they put up a fuss about it.

[aquart]

44. Make him do it.

[Chipster]

53. Union Busting

From newly elected Republican Governor Walker of Wisconsin:

"State unions have been without formal contracts since July 1, 2009, and Democratic lawmakers failed in December to pass new contracts that would have run through June 30. Unions have been continuing under the terms of the previous contracts, but on Friday the Walker administration gave the unions a required notice that it would terminate those agreements in the required 30 days....

In a teleconference with Journal Sentinel reporters and editors, Walker said the state's strong civil service laws eliminated much of the need for public unions at all....

Walker wants to rewrite state law governing state workers, teachers and local employees so they can bargain only over their salaries and not on benefits or any work rules.

Walker's bill also would allow public employees to avoid making payments to unions if they don't join those unions. Now, workers can choose not to join unions, but they must make "fair share" payments similar to dues - a requirement that unions say is needed because all workers benefit from their work at the bargaining table."

[Omaha Steve]

42. Nebraska is trying to do this to MY union too

K&R!

OS

[we can do it]

56. What Legal Recourse Do We Have? I Am Willing To Put the Time and Effort In

[roxiejules]

59. Looks like Wisconsin is, too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x587833

[earcandle]

54. Fed and State workers wages are the place holders for where we all should be right now. To

eliminate these places holders we will have no evidence of
legitimate wage increases.  Also, we will have no history that
we ever earned good wages in this country.  What a rewrite of
our history that will be. 

[JohnnyRingo]

58. This is the tame GOP version of the story. Here's a local article that includes Kasich's quotes

"Paybacks are a bitch" seems to be the theme in an Ohio Republican statehouse that received no campaign help from public service unions:


http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/553091/Unions----Bargaining-bill-bad-deal.html?nav=5021

Local union officials are sounding off on proposed changes to the state's collective bargaining laws that would weaken protection for organized government employees.

<snip>

The Republican-led Ohio Senate - with strong support from Gov. John Kasich - outlined plans Wednesday to overhaul the state's collective bargaining laws to weaken what they see as costly union clout.

Economic times are too hard, and the stakes too high, for Ohio taxpayers to continue to do business as usual, GOP Senate leaders said.

<snip>

With an $8 billion state budget gap forecast this year, cutbacks and hardship must be shared by Ohio's union workers, according to Kasich.

Republican leaders of the Ohio House and Senate, who must pass Kasich's first two-year budget by June 30, generally agree.

<snip>

Anticipating even tougher times in a Kasich administration, nearly all of the unions' campaign contributions went to Strickland before the Democrat's loss Nov. 2.

Political experts said Strickland's strong union support helped keep the election close. That's why, on Nov. 3, Kasich warned state teachers' and labor unions they should have been talking to him about their concerns. Kasich joked after his victory that school unions should take out newspaper ads apologizing for what they said about him during the campaign.

Nearly 1,000 union members, including police, firefighters, prison guards, teachers, and laborers, crowded the Statehouse atrium, hallways, and four hearing rooms to listen to details of legislation sponsored by Sen. Shannon Jones, a Republican who represents parts of Hamilton and Warren counties.

Outside, dozens of protesters carried signs urging legislators to vote against the bill.

[Lefta Dissenter]

62. Yeah, welcome to Wisconsin...

...I mean, Iran... I mean, North Korea...

Damn, I can't keep track anymore. :(

[sam sarrha]

63. the debt has been the baby of the GOP who believe a big Deficet is OK if due to tax cuts to the Rich

[totodeinhere]

64. I agree except that this isn't necessarily restricted to Republicans.

Democratic Governor Cuomo in New York wants to freeze state worker's pay and "and when their contracts expire, pay cuts could be on the table."

http://www.wor710.com/pages/8908365.php?

[Historic NY]

66. I'm glad I retired in NY because its coming nationwide.......

first it was privatization next new word is pension reform. They want to overturn a 100+ years.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/ban-government-employee-unions

http://chippewa.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_a34edd0c-3666-11e0-ac92-001cc4c03286.html

Collective bargaining is the lowest level in social justice and equality for the public service worker. There is nothing else left except costly strikes which government and the legal system penalize. When the fight across the table is taken what is left. Will they try to fire workers? How can they expect to overturn the Wagner Act and other legislation that grants the public worker rights. Let the demonetization begin.

[craigmatic]

71. Doesn't collective bargaining save money?

[Odin2005]

72. This is some evil shit!

If the American People were not such sheep there would be millions on the streets right now.

[mckara]

74. Maybe Working Americans Will Quit Voting for Republicans, Now

[Initech]

75. I wonder what this asshole's net worth is? This crap makes my blood boil.

:grr: :argh: :nuke:

[colsohlibgal]

76. He's A Real Piece Of Work

If he could work state employees 70 hours a week at $2 an hour he would.

I think there are a lot of people, including a ton of state emplyeees, who have a record case of buyer's remorse by now.

[perdita9]

77. I've Got No sympathy

The states that voted for Republicans deserve to take it right on the chin. They knew who these people were when they pulled that lever marked "R".

They want all the protections the Democrats fight for but not enough to vote for them.

Ohio did this to themselves just like NJ and Florida. Let's hope they learn from their mistakes.

[sudopod]

83. The ones who are being destroyed are not the ones who voted him in

dipstick.

[Nossida]

80. Gov. John Kasich = Tyrant

In classical politics, a tyrant (Greek τύραννος, tyrannos) is one who illegally seizes and controls a governmental power in a polis. These tyrants were a group of individuals who took over many Greek poleis during the uprising of the middle classes in the sixth and seventh centuries BC, ousting the aristocratic governments.

Plato and Aristotle define a tyrant as, "one who rules without law, looks to his own advantage rather than that of his subjects, and uses extreme and cruel tactics -- against his own people as well as others". <1>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrant

[alp227]

84. job creation by hurting the working class? what?

It seems that union-bashing has even seeped into the Democratic party. During the California gubernatorial campaign, both candidates (Jerry Brown the Democrat, Meg Whitman the Republican) had to address public employee pensions/benefits one way or another; Jerry Brown won and is continuing with the budget cuts.

Do Scott Kasich and Scott Walker understand that a strong middle class means a good economy? I mean, conservatives conveniently forget that during the "good ol' days" (y'know, the 1950s, 60s) that labor union membership peaked at that time!

[Marthe48]

88. Columbus Dispatch poll results: 87% against this punitive idea

From the Columbus Dispatch. They ran a question about Jones bill. I looked up the results here:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/02/10/hotissue_10.html?sid=101

Questions: Do repugs think they are representing the people? Implementing the will of the people?

[54anickel]

90. The WSJ -Just in time to attempt to drum up support within the base:St Ronnie

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704364004576132473777840938.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

Reaganomics: What We Learned
From December 1982 to June 1990, Reaganomics created over 21 million jobs. The right policies can do it again..

Too nauseating and baseless to post snippets from....