Police: 1 dead, 11 shot at Ohio fraternity house

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Source: AP

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio — Authorities in northeast Ohio say a shooting at a fraternity house just north of the Youngstown State University campus killed one student and injured 11 people, including six students.

Youngstown police Lt. Franklin Palmer says the shooting happened early Sunday and no arrests have been made.

A statement from the school says officers are working to identify suspects, and the YSU police chief says there's no threat to the campus.



Read more: http://www.kentucky.com/2011/02/06/1625080/police-1-dead-11-shot-at-ohio.html

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. UPDATED: 1 dead, 1 critical, 10 wounded near YSU

Foley said 12 people were shot during the exchange of gunfire. Ten of those wounded in the shooting are expected to fully recover. According to a campus alert issued this morning, six of the wounded were students and were treated at St. Elizabeth Medical Center.

YSU spokesman Ron Cole said many of the students shot were members of a sanctioned YSU fraternity who lived in a private, off-campus house.

more http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/feb/06/report-12-shot-1-dead-ysu-fraternity/

[MineralMan]

2. Those frat boys should have been better armed!

:sarcasm:

[Hoyt]

5. That will be the take from some. Arm everyone and life will be better. Jeeeeeez

[Name removed]

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[TheWraith]

16. Except that, you know, nobody actually says that.

Please look up the definition of straw-man argument.

[HankyDubs]

26. actually

that's exactly what they say.

[slackmaster]

31. Who said that, when, and where?

Let's see some examples.

(I'll give you a hint: Several people have made the same argument in the past, and upon being challenged have consistently failed to come up with supporting evidence. It's a Straw Man.)

The real problem in this case is that the criminal justice system failed to control two known major criminals.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Wait for the posts to arrive without the sarcasm tag.

[Arctic Dave]

3. See what happens when you turn a 9mm into a bong.

[msongs]

4. gun owners should not be allowed to own guns lol nt

[shadowrider]

6. It is a private residence, NOT a frat house (Former Sigma Chi house - now a rental)

Although the party was attended by sanctioned frat members from YSU.

Info is sketchy but I'll betcha it's drug and/or gang related.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Well, that makes a difference.

Ho-hum. It's no big deal.

[shadowrider]

10. It does make a difference. It did NOT occur at a frat house

This shooting is horrible, but blame is immediately being placed for the incident happening at a "sanctioned frat house" which is not the case.

I say again, this was at a private residence and, I'm going to GUESS, was drug and/or gang related.

[HankyDubs]

27. talking in code

"I'm going to GUESS, was drug and/or gang related"

thats gungeon code for: those damn brown people did it.

[slackmaster]

29. Read this morning's update, then try to deny that it was gang-related

http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=youngstown+shooting

It looks to me like two gang members crashed a student party, were ejected, then came back and shot the place up in anger. This was a premeditated act of violence by known criminals.

[Leithan]

7. Anti-social behavior at a frathouse???

NAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

[Divernan]

12. 1 dead; 11 injured & this thread is swamped with snark & sarcasm

Posters who find humor in tragedy - DU traditionally has been better than that.

[OhioChick]

13. +1000 n/t

[Peace Patriot]

14. Thank you, Diverman! nt

[prolesunited]

19. Yes, but the "hate the rich/kill the rich" meme runs thick here

If you are in college and in a frat you obviously have money (which is not true unless you are at an elite school, which this in not) and are somehow deserving of this fate -- if not directly, through the "sins" on the father.

This sick, reactionary crap has kept me from recommending this site to anyone for years.

[movonne]

21. I wonder why that is...

[prolesunited]

23. Because some people here are reactionary idiots

whose grandiose visions of some glorious revolution have distorted their grasp of reality.

The actual facts of this case are far removed from perceptions.

[Psephos]

22. Additional irony: Omega Psi Phi is an African-American fraternity.

Jesse Jackson is a member.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Psi_Phi

The "rich pampered frat boy" meme is an utter facepalm here.

[guitar man]

15. Oh no

How sad :cry:

Great Spirit be with them and their loved ones :grouphug:

[Mopar151]

17. Judging by trends in these parts

Somebody got thrown out ( & perhaps beaten up) of the party, came back to show 'em who's boss

[slackmaster]

30. I'm thinking it was more like two uninvited guests misbehaved, got thrown out,

Then cam back to show 'em who's boss.

[OhioChick]

18. UPDATED: 1 dead, 1 critical, 10 wounded near YSU

Police are investigating an early-morning shooting near the Youngstown State University campus that has left one man dead and several others wounded.

Jamail E.Johnson, 25, was killed early Sunday morning at a party at his Indiana Avenue home. According to YSU officials, he was a student at the university.

Another person shot at the same time is listed in critical condition.

Capt. Rod Foley, Youngstown police, said an unknown number of people attended an after hours party at 55 Indiana Ave. that lasted into the early-morning hours Sunday. He said an altercation between those at the party erupted leading to gunfire.

More: http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/feb/06/report-12-shot-1-dead-ysu-fraternity/

[ManiacJoe]

20. The store is bound to get better.

"Police Chief Jimmy Hughes said police are seeking two shooters who shot from outside of the home."

[OhioChick]

25. Two Arrested....

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio - Two men angry over a dispute at an Ohio fraternity house party left the gathering and returned early Sunday, spraying bullets into a crowd and killing a Youngstown State University student, authorities said. Eleven other people were injured, including a 17-year-old with a critical head wound.

The men were arrested and charged later Sunday with aggravated murder, shooting into a house and 11 counts of felonious assault, Youngstown police Chief Jimmy Hughes said. The suspects are in their early 20s and from the Youngstown area, but Hughes withheld their names pending further investigation.

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/Copy_of_USFraternity-House-Shootings_02207180

[AngryAmish]

24. In the 80s I lived in a kinda frat house

non greek fraternity. At times it looked like a Sam Peckinpah movie. I'm surprised nobody got killed. I'm more surprised that the university health center never reported gunshot wounds.

[slackmaster]

28. This was a gang hit. Suspects are due in court this morning. More information here.

...The altercation has been said to be linked to others at the Metroplex in Girard, the Love Lounge downtown and/or regarding female party goers.

Rogers has no adult criminal record. Jones has a burglary conviction and was charged with felony drug possession 3 times....

Continue reading on Examiner.com: University murder suspects due in court - Youngstown Trumbull County Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/trumbull-county-conservative-in-youngstown/university-murder-suspects-due-court#ixzz1DHglLs1I

[Freddie Stubbs]

32. It was Omega Psi Phi. Black fraternities usually don't have official chapter houses

The picture of the house in the article shows a house without any greek letters on it. These facts would leave me to believe that this was simply a house where some fraternity brothers lives, but not an actual frat house.