Rep. Wasserman Schultz: Bill Redefining Rape To Prevent Abortions Is ‘A Violent Act Against Women’

[kpete]

Source: Think Progress

Rep. Wasserman Schultz: Bill Redefining Rape To Prevent Abortions Is ‘A Violent Act Against Women’

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By narrowing the Hyde Amendment language, Republicans would exclude the following situations from coverage: women who say no but do not physically fight off the perpetrator, women who are drugged or verbally threatened and raped, and minors impregnated by adults. As the National Women’s Law Center’s Steph Sterling puts it, this new standard of force “takes us back to a time where just saying no was not enough.”

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***** “It is absolutely outrageous,” Wasserman Schultz said in an exclusive interview late Monday afternoon.
“I consider the proposal of this bill a violent act against women.”]

*****“It really is — to suggest that there is some kind of rape that would be okay to force a woman to carry the resulting pregnancy to term, and abandon the principle that has been long held, an exception that has been settled for 30 years, is to me a violent act against women in and of itself,” Wasserman Schultz said.

*****“Rape is when a woman is forced to have sex against her will, and that is whether she is conscious, unconscious, mentally stable, not mentally stable,” the four-term congresswoman added.<...>

Wasserman Schultz dismissed the effort as a nonstarter in the Democratic-led Senate and a guaranteed veto by President Barack Obama, but conceded that it may pass the GOP-controlled House. She called it “yet another example” of how the “extreme right-wing fringe of Republican Party has complete control over their agenda.”

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/01/dws-rape-language/

[DrDan]

1. this is unbelievable . . .

"Republicans would exclude the following situations from coverage: . . . and minors impregnated by adults"

Could those pigs supporting this sink any lower.

[sulphurdunn]

9. Sure they could.

They could do it themselves and probably would do it if they thought they could get away with it. That's the kind of creatures they are.

[AtheistCrusader]

75. The timing of a new Planned Parenthood 'pimp' video by Brietbart is no coincidence either.

They are going after abortion, both barrels.

[Mopar151]

111. That's about as low as it gets....

But that won't keep these goobers from trying to go even lower

[defendandprotect]

2. Rep. Chris Smith is as huge a nut case as Henry Hyde was --

[sdfernando]

5. Time to ask Rep Smith and all the other sponors

and supports if they have stopped raping children, or why they desire to rape children....and do it on the House floor!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

3. K & R

[suffragette]

4. K&R

[ThomCat]

6. Planned Parenthood has a petition to oppose this!

Please join us in fighting this! Doesn't let this happen! Sign the petition and be one of the million or so voices telling congress that this must not happen. Oh Hell No, we will not allow anti-choice extremists to legislate away the rights of women.

https://secure.ppaction.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=12470

Please, if you are on facebook, put this on your page and help us get signatures. Please send out a tweet. Help us get out this message. We can't let this happen!

[Enthusiast]

19. Done.

Idiots! Cruel unthinking idiots.

[cate94]

20. Thanks for your link.-

signed and sent.

[jdadd]

71. Done.....

I also added a line to my Rep Jim Jordon Oh 4th district asking him to reconsider his sponsorship of this bill. If I didn't own my home, I'd leave this ultra red Hell, I live in......

[lunatica]

80. Thanks!

[me b zola]

107. TY

[rasputin1952]

7. Damned RW idiots...

No chance this will make it through the Senate, might not make it through the House...another complete waste of time and effort to appease some lunatics that think they have all of the answers, but have none.

I swear, the GOP gets worse as each day passes...we really need to get D's out in force next election and toss these bastards back into the sewer they crept out of.

[Divine Discontent]

27. good point, ras. they get more disgusting as each day passes. This is really shocking stuff.

To tell a 13 yr old girl who was raped, that her procedure isn't covered by gov't funds b/c she didn't also attempt to fight off the rapist who came after her when she got off the school bus, is inhuman. They really show the disparate mindset between the two parties.

[TheMadMonk]

94. First you need to get some "D's". /nt

[Jefferson23]

8. Good for her..this should go no where. Yet another example of too many Republicans

dream to control/punish women.

[madamesilverspurs]

10. Where can we get a list

of those members of congress who have signed on? (the link in the article has timed out)

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[madamesilverspurs]

15. Found it.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-3

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[Divine Discontent]

26. I see Shuler's on there. Anyone surprised? I didn't see the guy who took over Grayson's seat on

the list, that was surprising. I'm pretty sure he'd still vote aye.

I fully support the other person's idea of criticizing them on the House floor, about why they support a girl being told she cannot have help getting an abortion despite her informing the rapist, "NO!". Seems that they want to have her try to fight off the rapist, and if she doesn't attempt it, then she cannot get coverage. That's perverse.

Thanks for the link.

[Iris]

95. what about the part about being drugged? What the hell?

I guess if you're drugged you can't say no or fight off your rapist so you should have a baby as a result?

[Raksha]

115. That's the part that outrages me the most--when a girl or woman CAN'T consent because she's drugged.

It happened to a young woman I know when she was 16. Her stepfather chloroformed her and raped her, on at least two occasions.

The second time, her mother walked in and caught him in the act and asked him what the hell he was doing. He said, "I guess I raped her." In other words, even the perp himself knew it was rape! So did the jury when they sentenced him to prison. I forget how long he was incarcerated--maybe 3-5 years/

But that scenario is not going to count as rape when it comes to a government-funded abortion??? WTF???

[alp227]

29. how could Republican WOMEN support this too?

including Michele Bachmann. Oh that's right. Good, obedient, classy, conservative, traditional, modest women NEVER get raped and ALWAYS save themselves for marriage, right? :sarcasm:

[CTyankee]

56. Yeah, like Bristol Palin did...

[Chorophyll]

35. Thanks for that.

Kind of alarming to see all those names. What a bunch of pandering shits.

[femrap]

36. Thank you....I now have

all the names of people who like to see little girls get raped and pregnant. You'd think we live in a theocracy like Iran.

They also like to drug women and rape them.

These are some sick sons and daughters of short dicks.

[LiberalFighter]

86. That should be the basis for a campaign ad.

[femrap]

104. I'm sure the MSM wouldn't accept

it, but we could get it on the Internet.

Shit, who watches MSM anymore???? Well, besides the stupid people?

Thanks for the encouragement. Our culture has collapsed into a morass of sewage....I keep waiting for the bottom.

[JDPriestly]

11. Chris Smith is from New Jersey. Why are there so many crazy right-wingers

from New Jersey?

[truth2power]

12. A way of diverting attention away from so-called plans to fix the economy

and create jobs.

[Iris]

96. exactly. I just looked at the bill and couldn't help but be astounded at the attempt to micromanage

women's lives via the government that they hate so much.

[AllyCat]

13. WTF is wrong with these people?

And there are people out there, many of whom are "Christians" who are applauding this!

[liberalhistorian]

28. They are NOT true Christians. No true Christian

would even consider supporting this. The members of my church would absolutely not tolerate it, and they are not "hippies" by any measure at all. People can call themselves whatever they want, but that doesn't make it so in reality.

This is really a matter of control and controlling women, just like rape is really about control and not sex. The ONLY good thing at all about their nuttery is that they're not hiding their craziness at all and right off the bat people are starting to see just what kind of people they really are.

[AllyCat]

52. Thanks. I'm specifically in mind of the Christian-brand Christians

and am at a loss for that little R with the circle around it.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

63. Please don't use the No True Scotsman fallacy.

It pops up in every thread discussing the actions of alleged Christians.

Christians are self identifying; the Bible is so full of contradictions that you can be a straight out bastard and call yourself a Christian. Sorry. It's not my fault; the Bible is a horrible book to get your morality from. Lots of horrific violence and cruelty in it, including the New Testament.

Nobody knows if Jesus really existed, even. There are no contemporary accounts of his life. The Gospels were written fifty to one hundred years later. There is nothing unique about Jesus that differentiates him from Apollo, Mithra, or Osiris, and many other ancient gods.


That said, I agree that they are bad people.

This is why I have nothing to do with the Abrahamic religions and I am SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT JEEBUS ALL THE TIME.

:banghead:

[yodermon]

84. the "No True Scotsman fallacy" doesn't apply to christians.

Such an argument is a logical fallacy because there is an implicit understanding that there EXISTS AN OBJECTIVE WAY to determine if one is a scotsman or not.

Since "being a christian" is a non-verifiable construct, one can define it anyway one wishes.

Self-identified christians can define it as they wish.
Self-identified non-christians can define it as they wish.
Both are 'correct' because it is imaginary. It also means there is absolutely no common ground from which to stage a logical debate.

[Nitram]

14. Cretins

The GOP apparently wants to take us back to a time when rape was legal.

[AlbertCat]

16. Rape is when a woman is forced to have sex against her will

Not to be picky, but this goes for men too.....



Y'see.. all women are supposed to carry a concealed side arm to protect themselves. If you didn't try to shoot him, you didn't fight him off hard enough. Protecting yourself with a gun is your personal responsibility, after all.




I think I'm gonna be sick.....

:puke:

These anti-abortion folks are nuts. They care more about a blastocyst than a living breathing conscious human being.

[Chorophyll]

17. K&R, and is anyone surprised that this has become

the first big Rethug crusade after their attempt to repeal the health care law? Geez, what happened to "cutting spending" and "creating jobs?" Oh right -- you'd need to have some kind of plan for that. It's so much easier to just shove the women back into their place.

:argh:

[thereismore]

18. The right words, to the point. nt

[perdita9]

21. Supporting a Rapist's Right to Procreate

That's what the GOP thinks is their top issue.

Oh well, America, we warned you and you voted for it anyway.

[KansDem]

22. Haven't you heard? It's all a part of God's plan

...or so said Sharron Angle.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/sharron-angle-opposes-abo_n_629371.html">Sharron Angle Opposes Abortion Even With Rape, Incest: 'God Has A Plan' (AUDIO)

[Iliyah]

24. Why do these gop/tea brats

always want to impose their warp ideals on women. We already know if they take over the country women will become sub-human b/c in their eyes all women are worth is to make and take care of babies, cook for them, clean the house and willingly give it up whenever these men want it. I swear tea brat women do have loose cannons.

[indimuse]

23. KNR! n/t

[madrchsod]

25. seems there a lot of talking points for who ever runs against these guys

[Iris]

99. if anyone has the guts

[Atypical Liberal]

30. This bill is ridiculous.

Forced sex is violence! No matter what kind of coercion is used!

This is ridiculous. Next they'll be claiming that they might have enjoyed it if they had just relaxed and laid back.

[abelenkpe]

31. Insane!

So someone can drug and impregnate a woman and that is not rape? WTF?

[MasonJar]

32. If this takes place, it is time to take to the streets. Enough already!

[femrap]

33. The 172 repugnants and

the lone Dem who support this are pure sadistic misogynists. And for the 16 repugnant women to go along with this....simply insane.

Animals are treated better than this.

OK, women....do you see how much you're hated????

[Babel_17]

34. I'd ask republicans ...

if this meant that terrorists can rape our kids and force us to raise their terrorist offspring.

Well, not in those words but it would be implied.

Maybe I'd ask republicans if a captured soldier that was drugged, raped and impregnated, would be on their own.

I'd ask them why they were putting ideas into the minds of rapists.

I'd ask them why they want the rapists to win.

This is a pro rape bill and should be referred to as such.

We are the anti-rape side and should identify ourselves as being so.

[DoBotherMe]

46. Excellent framing!

[AlbertCat]

67. This is a pro rape bill and should be referred to as such.

Yeah!

"The GOP's pro rape bill...do you support it?"

"Pro life is now pro rape"

[Babel_17]

37. I think these republicans

should be mentioned in the same breath as that Japanese minister who thought of gangs of teenagers that raped girls as being merely overly enthusiastic.

Sorry, no link for that but it was in the news a lot though several years ago.

The point being that these republicans need to be tarred as being guilty of minimizing the horror of rape.

Nothing should be held back.

[SouthernLiberal]

38. Sounds just like my Roman Catholic education

I went to a public high school. Once a week, there was a religion class that my parents took me too. Prior to that I went to a Roman Catholic Parochial School, and got taught 'religion' every single day.

From grade school - not sure when, but early enough that I had no idea what rape was, we were taught that if a man intended to rape us, it was our obligation to make him kill us. A girl who is killed by her would be rapist goes straight to heaven. A girl is raped before being killed... well, not so good a result. The nuns were a little vague.

In high school religious classes, we learned that raping a woman is a sin. Being raped, however is two sins. Sex outside of marriage, and being 'an occasion of sin' to the rapist. This was the late 60's. so we asked, and yes, we were told that rape is ALWAYS the 'victim's' fault.

By that rule, Mr. Smith is being quite generous, but not condemning a woman because her rapist tried, but failed, to kill her.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

59. Look up St. Maria Goretti.

[Iris]

97. Sounds like the Taliban.

that is some seriously twisted thinking there.

[arcane1]

39. Finally, they've stopped wasting time and are focused 100% on jobs!!!

:sarcasm:

[Initech]

40. Pro lifers are some of the lowest scum on earth.

[Leithan]

41. What were the Republicans WEARING when they decided to push this bill?

:thumbsdown:

[perdita9]

45. Good point!

[Major Hogwash]

42. She's one of my favorites in Congress.

Strong.
Determined.
Smart.
Honest.

That's what I want in my own Congressman, but it looks like that will never happen here.
Too many sheepeople.

[Joey Liberal]

43. Republicans are insane nt

[Odin2005]

44. They are the Pro-Rape Party!

:grr:

[clayton72]

50. Dear GOP: Rape isn't a solution to a legislative problem

[fascisthunter]

47. The American Taliban... Right Wing Christians

[DreamSmoker]

48. Slice,Dice,and seperate tactics again by GOP far right

And again absolutely nothing to move this Country forward..
...NOTHING...
Just more Slice, dice, separate and try to conquer BULLPUCKY...

[Deep13]

49. We have to allow more rapes to protect innocent life!

See how intensely idiotic and crass that sounds?

Well, it hardly seems worth it since the Rs have no decency anyway, but here it goes:

BOO!

[KamaAina]

51. "women who say no but do not physically fight off the perpetrator,"

Um, hello? What if she's disabled? (People with disabilities are far more likely to be physically assaulted than the general population.) :wtf:

[Odin2005]

53. Like my friend!

:cry:

[KamaAina]

55. That's precisely who I was thinking of

:grr:

[wildflower]

62. And some rape victims avoid physical resistance in order to save their lives

To say that is then not rape is beyond my comprehension.

[Iris]

100. Exactly. Since rape is a crime of violence, trying to fight off someone who is stronger than you

under normal circumstances could result in losing your life if your assailant is enraged.

[Volaris]

54. I've said it before, I'll say it again...

If you are immature in your own sexual Manhood, no doesn't mean no, it means try harder...
seems now that that is the official position of the Religious Zealot's Party...
asshats....

[Solly Mack]

57. K&R

[Kdillard]

58. Please tell me there is not enough support for this to pass.

[sam sarrha]

60. the GOP has been taken over by Dominionists.. >Link>> they treat women like Sharia Law would

http://blog.buzzflash.com/hartmann/10016
As Canadian (University of Calgary) political science professor Shadia B. Drury notes in her brilliant critique of Strauss, his work, and his students' influence:

"Strauss's students and their students have occupied important positions in the Reagan and Bush administrations and continue to play a significant role within the Republican party. Prominent figures on the American political scene include Reagan's ambassador to Indonesia, Paul Wolfowitz; Caspar Weinberger's former speechwriter, Seth Cropsey; National Endowment for the Humanities Deputy Chairman, John T. Agresto; National Security Council advisor Carnes Lord; Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs, Alan Keyes; legal scholar and judge Robert Bork...; Justice Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court; former Secretary of Education William Bennett; former Education Department Chief of Staff, William Kristol (later former vice-president Dan Quayle's chief of staff and then the chief pundit and policy maker of the Republican party). Journalists have been fully cognizant of this influx of Straussians into Washington and of the power they have within the Republican party. So much so that the New York Times has dubbed Leo Strauss the godfather of the Republican party's 1994 Contract With America."


http://doggo.tripod.com/doggchrisdomin.html
Leo Strauss was born in 1899 and died in 1973. ... He is most famous for resuscitating Machiavelli and introducing his principles as the guiding philosophy of the neo-conservative movement. ... More than any other man, Strauss breathed upon conservatism, inspiring it to rise from its atrophied condition and its natural dislike of change and to embrace an unbounded new political ideology that rides on the back of a revolutionary steed, hailing even radical change; hence the name Neo-Conservatives.

Significantly, Dominionism is a form of Social Darwinism.<48> It inherently includes the religious belief that wealth-power is a sign of God’s election. That is, out of the masses of people and the multitude of nations, wealth, in and of itself, is thought to indicate God’s approval on men and nations whereas poverty and sickness reflect God’s disapproval.

(It was not until I read this article that I realized that this is a fundamental tenet of Dominionists.

Worldly wealth and power are signs of God's favor -- to attempt to limit or decrease one's wealth and power is to disrespect God.

On the contrary, God's elect on Earth are called upon to increase their wealth and power.

It is not sufficient for a man to be a millionaire, or for a country to have sovereignty within its borders -- a man must strive to increase his wealth as much as possible, and a Dominionist government's behavior toward its neighbors must be "invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity".

Furthermore, any attempt to decrease a person's or a country's wealth and power -- to take from the rich to give to the poor, to reduce military spending and power -- is a direct attack on God.)

If “Secular Humanists are the greatest threat to Christianity the world has ever known,” as theologian Francis Schaeffer claimed, then who are the Humanists? According to Dominionists, humanists are the folks who allow or encourage licentious behavior in America. They are the undisciplined revelers.

Put all the enemies of the Dominionists together, boil them down to liquid and bake them into the one single most highly derided and contaminated individual known to man, and you will have before you an image of the quintessential “liberal” -- one of those folks who wants to give liberally to the poor and needy -- who desires the welfare and happiness of all Americans -- who insists on safety regulations for your protection and who desires the preservation of your values -- those damnable people are the folks that must be reduced to powerlessness -- or worse: extinction.

What would a “reconstructed” America look like under the Dominionists? K.L. Gentry, a Dominionist himself, suggests the following “elements of a theonomic approach to civic order,” which I strongly suggest should be compared to the Texas GOP platform of 2002, which reveals that we are not just talking about imaginary ideas but some things are already proposed on Republican agendas.<60> Dominionism’s concept of government according to Gentry is as follows:

“1. It obligates government to maintain just monetary policies ... fiat money, fractional reserve banking, and deficit spending.

“2. It provides a moral basis for elective government officials. ...

“3. It forbids undue, abusive taxation of the rich. ...

“4. It calls for the abolishing of the prison system and establishing a system of just restitution. *...

“5. A theonomic approach also forbids the release, pardoning, and paroling of murderers by requiring their execution. ...

“6. It forbids industrial pollution that destroys the value of property. ...

“7. It punishes malicious, frivolous malpractice suits. ...

“8. It forbids abortion rights. ... Abortion is not only a sin, but a crime, and, indeed, a capital crime.”<61>
. . .

* Gary North describes the ‘just restitution’ system of the bible, which happens to reinstitute slavery,
like this:

“At the other end of the curve, the poor man who steals is eventually caught and sold into bondage under a successful person. His victim receives payment; he receives training; his buyer receives a stream of labor services. If the servant is successful and buys his way out of bondage, he re-enters society as a disciplined man, and presumably a self-disciplined man. He begins to accumulate wealth.”


http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm
The First Prince of the Theocratic States of America

It happened quietly, with barely a mention in the media. Only the Washington Post dutifully reported it.<1> And only Kevin Phillips saw its significance in his new book, American Dynasty.<2> On December 24, 2001, Pat Robertson resigned his position as President of the Christian Coalition.

Behind the scenes religious conservatives were abuzz with excitement. They believed Robertson had stepped down to allow the ascendance of the President of the United States of America to take his rightful place as the head of the true American Holy Christian Church.

Robertson’s act was symbolic, but it carried a secret and solemn revelation to the faithful. It was the signal that the Bush administration was a government under God that was led by an anointed President who would be the first regent in a dynasty of regents awaiting the return of Jesus to earth. The President would now be the minister through whom God would execute His will in the nation. George W. Bush accepted his scepter and his sword with humility, grace and a sense of exultation.

As Antonin Scalia, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court explained a few months later, the Bible teaches and Christians believe “… that government …derives its moral authority from God. Government is the ‘minister of God’ with powers to ‘revenge,’ to ‘execute wrath,’ including even wrath by the sword…”<3>

George W. Bush began to wield the sword of God’s revenge with relish from the beginning of his administration, but most of us missed the sword play. I have taken the liberty to paraphrase an illustration from Leo Strauss, the father of the neo-conservative movement, which gives us a clue of how the hiding is done:

“One ought not to say to those whom one wants to kill, ‘Give me your votes, because your votes will enable me to kill you and I want to kill you,’ but merely, ‘Give me your votes,’ for once you have the power of the votes in your hand, you can satisfy your desire.”<4>

Notwithstanding the advice, the President’s foreign policy revealed a flair for saber rattling. He warned the world that “nations are either with us or they’re against us!” His speeches, often containing allusions to biblical passages, were spoken with the certainty of a man who holds the authority of God’s wrath on earth, for he not only challenged the evil nations of the world, singling out Iraq, Syria, Iran, and North Korea as the “axis of evil,” but he wielded the sword of punishment and the sword of revenge against his own people: the American poor and the middle class who according to the religious right have earned God’s wrath by their licentiousness and undisciplined lives.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/9/111512/684
And--as we'll see in today's post--this has a very long history, including Christian Identity's origins in dominion theology (yes, really!) and the oldest dominionist group in the US's ties with American Nazi groups in the 30's.

http://www.insider-magazine.com/christianmafia.htm

[Heywood J]

61. The Rape-publican Party strikes...

Any Democrat who sides with this bill should be booted out of the party. A big tent should never include the rapist vote. This should feature prominently in every 2012 campaign ad, against the Rape-publican party itself and every Rape-publican who sponsors it or votes for it.

"Congressman ___ voted for a bill which would deny potentially lifesaving treatment for rape victims, including children raped by adults. Some things are important in life. Congressman ___ thinks rapists should be one of them."

"When he wasn't busy voting to allow big insurance companies to double your premiums or drop you for getting treatment, Congressman ___ voted to force your child to give birth to a rapist's baby. Congressman ___ doesn't share your values... because he doesn't have any."

[Iliyah]

64. The party

of pro rape, no health insurance, and no afforable child care. These same people, God forgive, if one of their daughters got rape, secretively would go out of the country for an abortion.

OFF TOPIC: Palin asked her daughter Bristol what she wanted to do. She gave her daughter a choice. Damn us, they want to take our choices away. The gop/tea brats live a double standard life. OK for them, but not OK for me. Well "F" them, and the rate they are going, they will lose big time in 2012.

WHERE THE HELL ARE THE JOBS????

[derby378]

65. I hate to tell Wasserman-Schultz this...

...but when she voted for a health insurance "reform" bill that allowed for women to be discriminated against in terms of receiving reproductive care, she agreed that women in principle should not receive the same level of care as men - the House Republicans are simply trying to renegotiate the terms by which women's access to health care is limited.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. We are now seeing this play out in the aftermath of the compromise bill that Obama signed into law last March. Some things you do not compromise on, and this ploy to redefine rape is one of the reasons why you stand your ground on some issues.

And I haven't forgotten that this is ultimately Bart Stupak's fault. This song is for him.

[AlbertCat]

70. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

That's a lovely phrase, but it applies to physics, not politics. We don't need more bumper stickers, thank you.

And Wasserman-Schultz did not vote for this, nor did she agree that women should not get the same level of care. When men are raped, they don't get pregnant. You are aware of that, are you not? This is a "woman's issue".... something the GOP might demand calls for unthinking, juvenile, useless & symbolic solutions, but I don't think Wasserman-Schultz does.

[derby378]

72. Did Rep. Wasserman-Schultz vote for the compromise bill or not?

If she didn't, mea culpa. If she did, she should have taken a closer look at the fine print first.

[olegramps]

66. The Christian Taliban

Not too surprised that the Pedophiles (Priests) for Life are endorsing.

[katty]

68. it certainly is, sounds like a Big Love script

[mtnester]

69. Welcome to the United States of Gilead - n/t

[IrishEyes]

73. I don't know why I'm still shocked by the depths that republicans can go.

This just makes me sick to my stomach.

[amyrose2712]

74. They are just so hateful. It is so upsetting. nt

[mbperrin]

76. Can't fix stupid. I'd suggest that we make a law prohibiting prosecution

of killers of Republicans unless the Pub could prove they fought back with a small thermonuclear device or something larger AND the dead Pub has to bring the proof to court themselves.

Bam! Get rid of those big case backlogs!

[DissedByBush]

77. The bill is disgustingly obvious, but

I am getting tired of people throwing "violent" around when there is none.

Unless a Republican whacked a woman over the head with a copy of the bill, there is no violence involved.

"Rape is when a woman is forced to have sex against her will, and that is whether she is conscious, unconscious, mentally stable, not mentally stable"

Uh, don't forget a BIG one, even if she is conscious and mentally stable and with her will, there's still statutory rape if she's underaged. A 25 year-old guy suckering an impressionable 13 year-old girl into bed is right up there with a guy who would drug an adult woman and rape her in her sleep.

If she gets pregnant, and she's indigent, she doesn't need Republicans telling her she has to be a mommy at 13.

[bertman]

78. REC. This is one of the few times you will ever see me agree with the Vampire Queen. nt

[lunatica]

79. And Obama wants to reach across the aisle to these monsters?

I'm sure he would definitely veto this if it ever came anywhere near him, but this is the mentality we're faced with. It's disgusting beyond words.

[Guilded Lilly]

81. Republcans are fhe pro-rapist anti-female party

that is only interested in what can make older white consevative men wealthy.

All of these legislators should be branded as such. Including any souless Democrats who back this abominable bill as well.

[Swede Atlanta]

82. Incredible!!

The Repuke men want to be able to rape women and not have their "offspring" subject to a woman's right to choose unless they say no and fight off their oppressors. This Congresscritter has probably raped alot of women to be proposing this travesty.

[MichiganVote]

83. So they shoot Doctors, legislate against us--they'll be stoning us next

[thetonka]

85. The actual text of the bill, not what I was told it was

And no, I do not support it.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-3

[LiberalFighter]

87. Chris Smith and his colleagues...

need to experience rape on them first hand.

[Dokkie]

88. K & R

[Swampguana]

89. this is disgusting

[Marthe48]

90. So repugs want more of our beloved children to kill in war?

If life is truly precious to these control-freaks, then they should not support the illegal invasions which have not only killed thousands of our beloved, but have maimed thousands and thousands more. And that is only Americans--how many Iraqis and Afghans are dead?

I'm so sick of the hypocricy (...the state of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. ...)

[rbilancia]

91. THIS is what Indies voted for in 2010? NOT ! Stick it to the RePIGS hard in 2010.

[deacon]

92. The GOP is sick. Sick mentally disturbed people. n/t

[Politicub]

93. The Handmaid's Tale is coming to fruition before our very eyes

This must be stopped.

People supporting this odious legislation are evil incarnate. The House majority consists of extremist ghouls.

[Overseas]

98. K&R ! //nt

[Chellee]

101. Lone Democrat?

I count 9, on the list of co-sponsors.

Dan Boren D-OK2
Jerry Costello D-IL12
Mark Critz D-PA12
Joe Donnelly D-IN2
Collin Peterson D-MN7
Nick Rahall D-WV3
Mark Ross D-AR4
Heath Shuler D-NC11


They need to be informed that this is unconscionable, and their support for it will not go unnoticed.

[ZombieHorde]

102. Recommended. nt

[VPStoltz]

103. It's not outrageous, it's not unbelievable - it's business as usual for the GOP.

[DonCoquixote]

105. OK

Just remember this:
Is Obama is disappointment, yes he is.
However, the fact is we are very, very close to a nation that is willing to give the GOP what they want, and if we lose 2012, we can kiss Abortion goodbye.

[Monk06]

106. The Tea Bag Taliban and they have the nerve to say that Muslems are stuck in the middle ages. n/t

[Tsiyu]

108. Damn them

thank you to Wasserman Shultz

If you have a few bucks, donate to Planned Parenthood.

they need us now more than ever...

:kick: and rec

[democrank]

109. Sickening

[BrklynLiberal]

110. In case anyone had any doubts that repukes are congenital misogynists.

Any woman who is a repuke might as well just take a knife and slit her own throat.

[6000eliot]

112. This is what you get when you let morons, flakes, and loons control the political dialogue.

[myrna minx]

113. K&R n/t

[Mnemosyne]

114. And what about gang rape, you fucking assholes? n/t