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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:54 PM
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Castro says Obama has been underhanded in Egypt
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 05:28 PM by JI7
Source: cnn

Cuba's former leader Fidel Castro accused U.S. President Barack Obama of underhanded dealings with Egypt, saying Monday that while Washington provided the government with arms, the United States Agency for International Development financed the opposition.

"Nobody is unaware that the United States converted Egypt into its main ally in the Arab world," Castro wrote in an essay published Monday in state media. "It was the Arab country that received more arms shipments."

"Their Machiavellianism consisted of providing the Egyptian government with arms, while USAID provided funds to the opposition," he added, a reference to the 16th century Italian political philosopher Niccolo Machiavelli. "Obama doesn't have any way to manage the can of worms that he has opened."

The current Cuban government has not commented on the crisis in Egypt although state-run media has given it limited coverage.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/01/31/cuba.egypt/



Castro understands all about letting the people decide their Govt
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 04:57 PM
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1. Shut up Fidel.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:02 PM
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24. The only popular dictators on DU are the ones the USA does not support...
I say we treat them all like Castro! I support the people who I think deserve a say in their government. No form of government is even close to perfect but they are in fact a necessary evil. So, the people should be able to choose.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:10 PM
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29. The UN has condemned US policy in Cuba for many years now. n/t
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:51 PM
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31. I happen to agree...
Our policy with Cuba needs to change...But that does not change the fact Castro is an evil person with an evil past! The mental gymnastics one has to perform not to consider Castro a bad person is beyond me.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 08:16 PM
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33. I don't understand your judgment
Castro sent trained medical personnel to New Orleans after Katrina.Bush refused them entry .

Castro sent trained medical people to Haiti where they were accepted.

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 08:23 PM
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34. When wall street can't put their hands in a country is a bad regime
theocracies and dictatorships are ok as long as they let corporations work freely.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 09:44 PM
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38. Only kings or dictators rule for 50 years
I don't see a crown on his head.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 10:12 PM
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39. I think of Fidel....
....as one of the great Socialist Monarchs of the Americas....with a proletarian beret crown....
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 12:38 AM
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42. Castro is a well respected figure, an elder statesman
in Latin America and in the Caribbean. The mental gymnastics one has to perform in order to ignore that are beyond me.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:00 PM
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2. Castro's telling it as it is. Rec'd n/t
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:05 PM
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4. Actually, Obama rescinded the funding to the opposition
(a neocon project) and put all the money into purely economic investment.

So, no ... Castro is not right. Never trust a man who watches Woody Woodpecker films all day.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:10 PM
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6. If you say so. Sure was nice of Obama to have a bunch of neocons at the WH today. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:11 PM
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7. No, they rescinded funding to NGOs that weren't registered with the regime. n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 05:12 PM by EFerrari
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:34 PM
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19. Woody Woodpecker cartoons? Really? Got a link for that?
People from the U.S. who have met him, including ALL the U.S. politicians who've made the trip, all say in in fantastically well-informed on world affairs, history, etc., etc., etc., and that he unfailingly questions people in areas he doesn't know about at great lengths, has an unquenchable thirst for information.

This has been the quality people have attributed to him throughout his life.

You are really out to smear him if you hope to make a claim like that among people who know better.

Sad. Really sad.

Funding the opposition is an unfortunately done-to-death OLD pattern by the U.S. government, extending so much further back BEFORE there were any U.S. sociopaths known as "neocons."

But then this is something you should have known, as well. The rest of us certainly do.
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:07 PM
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27. If I have to choose between watching Blitzer or Woodpecker,
The redhead wins.

Followed by Moose and Squirrel.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 07:30 PM
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32. Personal knowledge
I spent some time with the former head of the Cuban Film Archives (who not long after defected!). One of his jobs was to provide private screenings for el Presidente. Someone asked him what kinds of films Castro requested. He said he mainly watched Woody Woodpecker cartoons. I swear to god, this is what I was told from the horse's mouth.

That's all, folks!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:04 PM
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3. Would be more accurate to say our MIC continues to be underhanded
in collusion with the Egyptian MIC.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:27 PM
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15. MIC needs to grow, needs to keep selling weapons -- and needs our
government/taxpayers to keep lending money to nations so they can buy our

weapons!!

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:09 PM
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5. he's right
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 05:10 PM by fascisthunter
and too many Americans just ignore him because they hate the man soooo much.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:12 PM
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8. Fuck Castro. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:16 PM
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9. They tried that. It didn't work. n/t
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:21 PM
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11. I know - too bad for the Cuban people. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:25 PM
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13. Seriously, they could be Haiti by now n/t.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:27 PM
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14. LOL!
Edited on Mon Jan-31-11 05:28 PM by jonnyblitz
:D (not that conditions in haiti are anything to laugh at, btw, laughing at your retort)
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 12:40 PM
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45. !
:spray:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. Nice one !
Very appropriate. :rofl:
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 08:25 PM
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35. lol
:toast:
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #8
23. Funny how almost everyone on DU...
is sick & tired of America supporting dictators...Except for the ones we do not support! LOL!
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 08:28 PM
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36. we just want to end discrimination n/t
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:21 PM
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10. Reducing it to such simplistic terms makes him sound senile.
This is the same kind of crap that provides fodder against Hugo Chavez - every damn time he opens his mouth.

If Fidel were American, only the Tea Baggers would fall for his schtick.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:45 PM
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21. Fidel's response to the crisis in Egypt is to criticize the US
same old story.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 01:05 PM
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46. You'd think the US had the power to tell Mubarak to go on the spot. Weird, eh?
As you say: Same old story. Just not the one you seem to think.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:03 PM
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25. Well, he's right. We armed the regime and tried to co-opt the opposition.
Nothing simplistic in that at all.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:25 PM
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12. Thanks, Fidel-- !! Something is keeping Mubarak propped up ... and US is one of key suspects!!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:29 PM
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17. wonder why it's been given limited coverage
maybe they don't want to give the Cubans any ideas about over-throwing their dictator
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:50 PM
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22. Limited coverage by whom ?
That's extracted from Granma - the Cuban state newspaper. It was directed at the Cuban people.

It has yet to included in their English edition. There is open permission from Granma to republish Fidel's Reflections / Essays in their FULL ENTIRETY UNAMENDED- never mind the few paragraphs CNN chose to republish.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:33 PM
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18. Cuba should overthrow their dictator n/t
s
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 08:29 PM
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37. and their electoral system too?
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 10:18 PM
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40. I just mean the Castro boys, they can elect their next leaders in the manner they see fit n/t
s
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 05:36 PM
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20. i wonder if Obama paid Castro not to comment on the crisis in Egypt
by not commenting he is support Mubarak
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:06 PM
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26. Did you read your own OP? He's most certainly not supporting Mubarak. n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:09 PM
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28. where does it say that ?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 12:36 AM
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41. "Can the United States stop the revolutionary wave that is shaking up the Third World?" Fidel Castro
Castro is an excellent writer. In that sentence, he invokes the US's historical role as the opponent of popular revolts, including the Cuban one, and he implies his own role as a supporter of those revolutions.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 01:09 AM
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43. that means nothing since he didn't mention Mubarak
Obama is always talking democracy and freedom , but why wont they mention Mubarak by name ?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 01:20 AM
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44. You might have missed those threads.
The contention was that Obama was supporting Mubarak, since Obama didn't specifically ask Mubarak to step down.

Now, if that standard is applied to Castro, Castro is supporting Mubarak.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-11 06:29 PM
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30. What a stupid comment.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 01:58 PM
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47. A little far fetched.
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