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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:22 PM Original message |
U.S. Tries to Build Case for Conspiracy by WikiLeaks |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. While studiously ignoring the Bush criminal administration. FUCKERS. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It is a disgusting spectacle. I would say they should be ashamed, ... |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. More of that Change "We can Believe In" |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
70. I don't believe Obama indicated that he would suspend the enforcement of ours laws |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:33 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. No, his words were more along the lines of let's look forward not backward |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. Manning and Assange occured on his watch. I expect him to deal with it. |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. Enforcing the law is a disgusting spectacle? |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. The uneven application of enforcing the law, in the name of protecting political power, is a ... |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-18-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #78 |
90. I'm all for the equal application of justice. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
82. Apparently anything, even suborning perjury, is better than looking impotent. nt |
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tax_cuts_r_us (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. I guess Asange isn't wealthy enough to avoid persecution |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
24. My beef orginally with |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. It's hard to imagine any other administration doing different. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. What drives them crazy is not the loss of information, but that of power. nt |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. +1 |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Exactly!!! That is what frustrates them!!! n/t |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Yep. |
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harvey007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Their urge to silence and censor also explains this... |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. What bothers me, is that this could jeopardize the safety of our armed forces and/or |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Ultimately the US government is jeopardizing the safety of our armed forces |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Yeah, but that no excuse for others to do it. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Really? |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Nihil...is that as in nihilist? If so, that would explain why you consider treason |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Has the brain-washing progressed that far then? |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Do you have a link to the evidence that supports your contention that Manning was "tortured,?" |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Lots of people do ... |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Perhaps they do, but clearly, you do not. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Are they going to start prosecuting all of the |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. A Clear Case of Projection |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. The whole "war on terror" is a clear case of projection. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Ha! I have little doubt Adrian Lamo would be more than willing to help them get the... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Where have I heard that before? |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. this does not sound very looking-forward-and - not-backwardthingy |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. I guess that Brad Manning has learned a valuable lesson, |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. So much for justice being blind. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. And in the mean time Private Manning is being held in torturous conditions |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. The Attorney General has his priorities all wrong. He needs to start by indicting the BFEE |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Hell Yes! eom |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. Sam Seder: Hope irony of NY Times sending alert "U.S. Tries to Build Case for Conspiracy" |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
46. It isn't |
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harvey007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
18. Assange is the administration's fall guy |
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bluesmail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. You may be right. sigh |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. leaving only one rape victim. 1 of 2, decent odds(nt) |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. There are no rape victims. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. right. no charges were filed.all imaginary.(nt) |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. I hadn't seen that. Can you post a link to some info? n/t |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. sarcasam. he will be extradited back to sweden |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. I didn't think so. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Yes, they will both (manning and assange) stand trial in the US |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
20. Does anyone know who Adrian Lamo is? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. They were in a chatroom. |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. It's a weird story |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. So the Pentagon's plan is to discredit Wikileaks |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. blah, if he conspired with bradass87 he is done. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Also, to adress one of Greenwald's unanswered questions: Manning is gay and Lamo used his... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. About a week ago, I read this bizarrre rant by Greg Palast |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. I saw that too- and I'm a fan of Gred Palast. But having read that piece you ... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:12 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. What he does with his junk is not relevant to this crime |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. So repulsive. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. The idea of hacking is very strange to me. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Totally depends on the mind of the person doing it. Hacking is hacking. But... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. lamo did not want to be part of a conspiracy. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
64. Deleted message |
Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. If I steal classified info and show it to you and you do nothing |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Show me classified material? We're all reading it right now. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. yes you are anon.. legion , if I steal classified information and give it to you |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
86. Most do it for the fun of it... |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
49. A young man with principles, for which just about everything was sacrificed: |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. (1:51:25 PM) bradass87: i'd have to ask assange , Lets see how conspiracy works.. |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. "information should be free sounds great"? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. You are aware the framers used coded messages to communicate back then right? |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. And you're the one with the decoder ring? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. No it was marked classified norfn |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
54. A wannabe hacker with no skills turned FBI informant.. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. who was smart enought to not be indicted on a conspiracy charge |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
39. Why do US government agents talk up against our democracy???? |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
40. Something missing |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
41. How about looking into a bigger criminal conspiracy by our own government to go to illigal wars? |
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kgnu_fan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. kick for truth! |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
45. That is the only they can get him |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Greenwald points out that Bob Woodward has made a whole career |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. I'm no expert |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. When we read language like"Wikileaks could be charged for collusion" |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
87. "the fact that Assange actually solicits these leaks" |
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ChumbawambaFan (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
48. If you run a 'whistleblower' site, you have to fact check & verify .... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. They want to make all whistleblower sites illegal |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Conspiracy is not protected by 1st. If he participated or pulled mannings strings |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Are you a lawyer? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. NO but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night.. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-10 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. First, they decide they want to prosecute, then they figure out for what. |
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