Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

FAA loses track of 119,000 aircraft

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 04:14 AM
Original message
FAA loses track of 119,000 aircraft
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 04:14 AM by cory777
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Federal Aviation Administration is missing key information on who owns one-third of the 357,000 private and commercial aircraft in the U.S. -- a gap the agency fears could be exploited by terrorists and drug traffickers.

The records are in such disarray that the FAA says it is worried that criminals could buy planes without the government's knowledge, or use the registration numbers of other aircraft to evade new computer systems designed to track suspicious flights. It has ordered all aircraft owners to re-register their planes in an effort to clean up its files.

About 119,000 of the aircraft on the U.S. registry have "questionable registration" because of missing forms, invalid addresses, unreported sales or other paperwork problems, according to the FAA. In many cases, the FAA cannot say who owns a plane or even whether it is still flying or has been junked.

Already there have been cases of drug traffickers using phony U.S. registration numbers, as well as instances of mistaken identity in which police raided the wrong plane because of faulty record-keeping.

Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/AP-Enterprise-FAA-loses-track-apf-1362303896.html?x=0&.v=9



Activist News http://activistnews.blogspot.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 04:50 AM
Response to Original message
1. Maybe some of the records
were dumped during the Bush admin as part of the "destroy government" program.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #1
8. actually it's more than likely
that owners of the planes:

didn't know their registrations expire/expired.
willfully ignored that fact
thought it was not their responsibility to do it
or (and this is the biggie) they realized that once their registration lapsed they would have to have their planes Airworthiness Certification redone (which I am gathering ain't cheap as it involves a physical inspection as well as a detailed review of maintenance files and the sites I can find that do that all have "request a quote" rather than a flat fee schedule)

so as long as the FAA didn't say anything the owners weren't either. It's not like there is an FAA license and registration "sky" block out there where they check your license, registration and insurance. "Sir, please pull over to that cloud and have your license and registration handy"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #8
12. Under the
"do not ascribe to malevolence what can be explained by incompetence" doctrine, that makes more sense.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 05:05 AM
Response to Original message
2. this is crazy! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 06:50 AM
Response to Original message
3. But we all get our full body scans and get felt up our body cavities before flying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:36 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. That's more important, doncha know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:46 AM
Response to Original message
5. "I know I set them down around here SOMEWHERE! Maybe they're with my missing set of keys."
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Doncha think that the Homeland Security System should...
have built a fire under the FAA since 9-11?

Time to turn registration over to DMV.

If the FAA has not kept up with the flow, the question is what have they been doing over the past 8 years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. It isn't like the shrub actually gave a shit about terrorism threats.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. You are absolutely right. The whole tactic was meant to keep everyone "terrorized"
so that BushCo could do exactly as they wanted and call us unpatriotic if we challenged them.
Actually doing anything meaningful to prevent terrorism - or to address the underlying causes of it - was never a part of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. The vast majority of the planes are General Aviaition
and the data has been in this shape for many years without significant incidents or problems
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Chef Eric Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:17 AM
Response to Original message
9. How dare Associated Press release this dangerous info; they should be arrested. nt
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:58 AM
Response to Original message
10. PostgreSQL. Download, install, use. That is all.
Alarm-inducing headline you got there, OP.

A real attention grabber.

/imagined thousands of radar screens going blank simultaneously
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:39 AM
Response to Original message
13. Probably just an "OOPS" rather than a plot...I doubt our government is smart enough
to plot something this complex. They have not shown that much intelligence over the last 45 years or so...


mark
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. FAA has a log history of being incompetent in dealing with computers.
I remember consulting on one of their attempts to upgrade their systems back in the 1980s and being just appalled. Of course I was sent back to my old project.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:20 AM
Response to Original message
16. and they are worried about wikileaks - they are their own enemy
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 11:10 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC